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T-34/100 or TVP, which is worse?


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modernwar90 #1 Posted Apr 19 2016 - 02:00

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Gonna free exp past at least one of these POS (succumbing to exactly what WG wanted)... I mean there's a reason why I am asking which is worse and not which is better... I would prefer only free exping one since I don't have enough free exp to go past both and still have 90k left for getting the top turret/gun on the skoda. Heard the T-34 is slightly better tier for tier, but the TVP is on sale for another 10 hours so that would be a plus.

Ravnican #2 Posted Apr 19 2016 - 02:01

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I like the VTU.

otacon237 #3 Posted Apr 19 2016 - 02:14

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the VTU is generally considered worse. i'm at the 34/100 and it isn't too bad. the gun can do some nice work if you avoid taking hits.

heavymetal1967 #4 Posted Apr 19 2016 - 02:19

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Run the 34/100 imo.  But if you go the T8 run the stock turret.  You only lose 10m of view range, but gain 2 much needed depression from 6 to 8.  That's with the 88mm which is better than the 100mm.  And if you run the 105 which isn't the best gun imo the depression values get worse iirc.  Check WoT GG site for specifics.

 

Edit:  Also you lose a little turret traverse IF irc.  Also to clarify run the T7, skip the 8.

 

Edit2: Meant the 88 *smfh*


Edited by heavymetal1967, Apr 19 2016 - 02:38.


TacoJohnHG #5 Posted Apr 19 2016 - 02:21

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34/100 is definitely the worst of the 2. It's tier 7, so it's inherently worse. The TVP VTU is basically a Panther II.

werecat #6 Posted Apr 19 2016 - 02:26

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The T-34-100 is actually quite decent when played like a support tank for the heavies with it's very nice gun. The VTU is like a Pz. 58 Mutz, except worse in every way. Use the best 88mm with the stock turret, and save a lot of free xp for the stock grind on the tier 9

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NVM

Edited by heavymetal1967, Apr 19 2016 - 02:30.


werecat #8 Posted Apr 19 2016 - 02:26

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View PostTacoJohnHG, on Apr 19 2016 - 01:21, said:

34/100 is definitely the worst of the 2. It's tier 7, so it's inherently worse. The TVP VTU is basically a Panther II.

 

Lol no it's not

heavymetal1967 #9 Posted Apr 19 2016 - 02:30

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View Postwerecat, on Apr 18 2016 - 20:26, said:

The T-34-100 is actually quite decent when played like a support tank for the heavies with it's very nice gun. The VTU is like a Pz. 58 Mutz, except worse in every way. Use the best 88mm with the stock turret, and save a lot of free xp for the stock grind on the tier 9

 

This actually and not the 100mm.

 

Edit:  Values in order Stock turret top 88, Elite top 88, Stock turret 100mm, Elite 100mm, Stock turret 105, Elite 105.

 

http://tanks.gg/wot/compare#t:tvp-vtu;2m00000.c:tvp-vtu;3m00000.c:tvp-vtu;4m00000.c:tvp-vtu;5m00000.c:tvp-vtu;6m00000.c:tvp-vtu


Edited by heavymetal1967, Apr 19 2016 - 02:37.


donalson99 #10 Posted Apr 19 2016 - 05:33

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i recently finished the tier7 and an working on building up the tier8... while the 8 isn't fully upgraded I'm liking the the 8 more than the 7... the 7 has a good hard hitting gun, and is nice and quick... but I don't think i've been ammo racked or caught on fire more in that thank than any other i've ever played... also it lacked gun depression and the gun handling is amazingly bad... 

 

as mentioned the TVP is much like a panther 2... but worse... worse gun handling, worse armor for a little more speed... but it does lead to the skoda t50... which from what i've seen will be worth the pain :)

 

i'd prob skip the tier8 if I had the free xp at my disposal... but only because it requires a lot more xp to grind through...



redemption #11 Posted Apr 19 2016 - 14:17

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While its is probably the worse tank, I did find the VTU more enjoyable to play than the 34/100.

Using the top 88 and stock turret gives you decent gun-handling and the same 8 degrees of gun depression you have on the t9 and 10.

Work ridge lines and engage distracted targets with your decent DPM. I never bothered to unlock the top 105 or the top engine so you can save yourself 30k xp on the grind.



Redcoat #12 Posted Apr 19 2016 - 14:52

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I'm still playing the 34/100 and I honestly haven't found it too bad at all... I actually did MT15 T55A with honours in it this weekend, so it must have something going for it... It's quick enough, has a gun that can punch, and the turret can surprise you with the odd troll bounce, but the hull feels like paper and the gun handling is pretty bad. You have to play support and move a lot to avoid trading shots with anyone who actually focuses on you. Still, I didn't find the grind too bad, and I'm only a few thousand EXP from getting the T8 now...

Derfuchs13 #13 Posted Apr 19 2016 - 15:28

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I bought it(34/100) recently and i dont find it that bad.

When on the top its gun is devastating for the peak and boom. Prefereably not getting shoot back

When on the bottom it really hurts though

Praematura #14 Posted Apr 19 2016 - 15:56

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T34-100 is crap. No gun depression (see LTTB) and you have essentially no armor because without gun depression your hull is exposed. Yea it's a great support tank on flat ground but I played it a lot trying to get 3 moe and getting top tier against any tier 7 means you can't be a support tank.

I never tried the tvp after the pain of the t34-100.



BajaJames #15 Posted Apr 19 2016 - 16:09

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I actually liked the 34/100 now that vtu is a different story.

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View PostBajaJames, on Apr 19 2016 - 11:09, said:

I actually liked the 34/100 now that vtu is a different story.

 

Same

Rides_with_Death #17 Posted Apr 19 2016 - 17:35

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View PostBajaJames, on Apr 19 2016 - 09:09, said:

I actually liked the 34/100 now that vtu is a different story.

 

^^^^^^^^^

JA_Pinkerton #18 Posted Apr 19 2016 - 17:42

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T 34/100 isn't a bad tank.  It's not a good tank either.  You really have to play it as a support tank.  Stay one step behind your heavies, wait for the enemy to fire, then pop out and make your shot count.

 

The TVP VTU is the 2nd worse tank in the game.  It's the worst tier VIII medium.  "But there are no good tier VIII mediums," you say?  My point exactly.  And being tier VIII you have a 100k grind to get rid of it.

 

All of this aside though, the TVP T 50 is a crazy good tank and worth all the pain.



peter_s_price #19 Posted Apr 19 2016 - 17:45

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I point blank refuse to use free exp for that as you say wg want you too. I grind through good n bad (because that only uses 1x exp. I save free exp for upgrading crew skills/perks (which are doubled each time)

Roggg2 #20 Posted Apr 19 2016 - 18:03

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The 34/100 was aight.  The TVP has killed my interest in the line.  I play the dailies in it when I remember to, and some day I'll unlock the Skoda.  IMO the tier 8 is definitely worse, AND it's a longer grind.

 

The tier 7 always felt like a KV-85 (with less armor) to  me.  The gun depression is crap, but otherwise it's not too bad. 






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