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TuskerDat #21 Posted May 04 2016 - 07:42

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Thanks for the article Chief!

 

I have no personal combat experience to relate but I was an Armor Crewman (19k) from 82-86 and then afterwards a straight leg Infantryman (11B) from 88-92. I missed my tank every road march but my Infantry mates were almost 100% in agreement that they would not want to be stuck inside one of those "death traps". Having experienced both roles, I'd still prefer to be in my tank.  My son is an Iraq Vet (15T) and really felt vulnerable whenever bad stuff was "flying around" his bird but was quite happy to be zooming above IEDs most of the time.

 

 



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View Post0304, on May 04 2016 - 05:36, said:

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Well, 0304. I suppose your government wouldn't be the first to use heinous deeds to cover up liberty & freedom. Almost certainly not the last.

For the rest - If you want to see why all the nations lined up as they did to fight the many wars in the last century, you'd we well advised to research who owed whom and how much.

 

 


Edited by 40BelowWGA, May 04 2016 - 12:00.


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View Post0304, on May 04 2016 - 05:36, said:

...but what they truly seek is oil.

 

 

...or Bananas  ...depending on when we oppressed you (thanks Smedley).

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Well written, my good sir!  Well considered, and well written. It gives one pause to think (in most cases ...).

 

I always was impressed by the pic of the periscope lens. I can certainly appreciate that it impressed you, too.  But I am particularly glad that the impression was not 3 inches higher, as the case may be.

 

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Great stuff as usual

EatMyAmmo #26 Posted May 04 2016 - 11:04

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An Iraqi tanker would much rather have been in a Subaru than a T62. This does not make a Subaru the superior fighting vehicle.

 

"It's entirely possible that those of you reading this who have also been on a two-way firing range felt nothing like I did, and were either scared witless during the fighting, or felt totally invulnerable from the moment you arrived in theater unitl the moment you left."


 

Yup: and put the same fella, in the same position, on another day, and he'll experience terror rather than calm; and vice versa. So, no, not a useful tool for advancing an argument.


 

Incidentally, Allied and Axis tankers would have preferred to be in Bolivian tanks for the duration of the war.


 


 

 

 

 



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View Postthandiflight, on May 03 2016 - 17:46, said:

Can confirm....although as infantry I never had the pleasure of having a vehicle to duck into! There is that first "what the..." moment, the the realisation what is happening and the rest is "instinct" - and all that stuff you thought was a waste of time or an annoyance in training just kicks in. The emotions come afterwards....and they are a real mixed bag.

 

It also helps having "something to do" other than directly engage bad guys. As our Company's Fire Support Team Leader my first act upon contact was getting my team working the problem to get indirect or air assets spun up and ready to support us. Once I had a few seconds I started to worry about my Marines in the Weapons Platoon and to make sure they were doing what they were supposed to. Eventually somebody or something would get my attention on my own mortality.

 



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I was in both gulf wars. Being a air combat controller my spotter and i lived in hell but kill the enemy and I relive what i went thru everday and all the suffering I go thru was worth it. thanks chief

RangerC_231 #29 Posted May 04 2016 - 16:49

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I was in a little computer store in a city in southern Kyrgyzstan in 2005 when shooting broke out between protesters and the target of their protests. Even though it had been 30 years, my training kicked right in, to my surprise. I started giving orders - "Get away from the windows!" "Sit down!" (We were above the street and the concrete & brick walls were about 15 inches thick.) Some were slow to respond and wanted to watch the action. When two rounds came through the window, they got the idea. One young guy decided that closing a large single pane window would protect us. My biggest concern was that one of the shooters might want a new hard drive and decide to spray and pray when he came in.

 

The shooting (I can't call it a firefight even though AK 74s were being used) lasted about 20 minutes. When it got quiet I looked out. No wounded. A couple of molotov cocktails sitting on the sidewalk unlit. The cops arrived and we waited for an hour while they processed the crime scene.

 

Mid-"battle", I called a friend who lived in the northern part of the country and who had served in ARVN. I held the phone up. "I haven't heard that in years!" he said. :hiding:


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I'd like to wish Bob a quick trip on his road to recovery!

 

I've always wondered if maybe Abrams should carry UAV's or borrow their thermal sights with the target acquisition bits. I guess there's only so much room in the vehicle and capacity to work in a 4-person team.

 

Thank you all for your service!

 



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View PostRangerC_231, on May 04 2016 - 15:49, said:

 

Mid-"battle", I called a friend who lived in the northern part of the country and who had served in ARVN. I held the phone up. "I haven't heard that in years!" he said. :hiding:

 



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Love that scene!! Great movie! :)

kamikazekirb #33 Posted May 04 2016 - 19:39

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great read!

 

scarry stuff at times in those toasters.

 

 

 

 

thanks



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View Postkamikazekirb, on May 04 2016 - 13:39, said:

great read!

 

scarry stuff at times in those toasters.

 

thanks

 

^..The British used to call them 'ovens'...and for good reason.

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Good article, Chief. I liked it.

It's nice to see us getting back to basics here.

 

 

 

 

 



stalkervision #35 Posted May 04 2016 - 23:30

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ak-47 ?.... ya how about this...https://www.youtube....h?v=kLj4zaoMkRE

 

and many of the enemy have a lot heavier automatic firepower then the ak-47 that is for sure.

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=tgXWJEZzFHE

 

and this will surprise many no doubt.. Listen to what the narrator says about the people using it.

 

 https://www.youtube....h?v=T_F-q7MNYBE



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View Postdigitalphone, on May 04 2016 - 01:48, said:

 

Well, 0304. I suppose your government wouldn't be the first to use heinous deeds to cover up liberty & freedom. Almost certainly not the last.

For the rest - If you want to see why all the nations lined up as they did to fight the many wars in the last century, you'd we well advised to research who owed whom and how much.

 

 

 

You really have nothing to contribute, do you ?

ToothDecay #37 Posted May 05 2016 - 01:08

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Chief.

  It almost seems like a disconnect, no ?

crapstarts, switch is thrown and you deal.

After, time to think about it sucks.

Then you shake.

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Tomorrow you mount up and do it again.

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“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.”
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View PostThe_Chieftain, on May 04 2016 - 07:11, said:

 

 You know what the kicker is? They forgot to give us oil detection equipment. The amount of holes I had to dig with the shovel.... That said, I'm not sure where I would have put it in the tank.

 

Oh what?!

That is just OUTRAGEOUS



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View Postdigitalphone, on May 04 2016 - 07:48, said:

 

Well, 0304. I suppose your government wouldn't be the first to use heinous deeds to cover up liberty & freedom. Almost certainly not the last.

For the rest - If you want to see why all the nations lined up as they did to fight the many wars in the last century, you'd we well advised to research who owed whom and how much.

 

 

 

Who cares about who's first, its which government that did the MOST heinous deeds that matters....

Anyways, your comment is terribly irrelevant; a desperate ploy to hide your humiliating defeat.

 

I actually do care about the USA soldiers because they're worker class civilians used as pawns in foreign policy, and they die without knowing what they're really doing.

I had a real middle-eastern friend who moved to Afghan and died in a freak USA airstrike. No it is not funny and I have seen him in the flesh, so he was real and alive.

 



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View Post0304, on May 04 2016 - 20:07, said:

 

Who cares about who's first, its which government that did the MOST heinous deeds that matters....

Anyways, your comment is terribly irrelevant; a desperate ploy to hide your humiliating defeat.

 

I actually do care about the USA soldiers because they're worker class civilians used as pawns in foreign policy, and they die without knowing what they're really doing. I had a real middle-eastern friend who moved to Afghan and died in a freak USA airstrike. No it is not funny and I have seen him in the flesh, so he was real and alive.

 

 

^..He has a valid point.

And what bothers me the most about this whole Iraq/Afghanistan war / "liberation crusade", is that both of those places will probably end up being exactly the same messed up [edited] hole...sorry, 'crap hole' places that they were before...possibly even worse. The whole thing was a waste of human lives, and tax payers dollars.....and the only one{s} that seemed to benefit from both of these wars was the arms dealer Emperor himself {and his business cronies}....[edited] Cheney.

 

*My biggest fear, is that it will all be for nothing....just like Vietnam was. It was all for nothing.

 

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