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ArcticTankHunter #1 Posted May 30 2016 - 05:00

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I think there should be different tier of equipment. Seriously my friend slaps on a binocular and camo net on tier 1-3 vehicle making him impossible to be spotted by new players. The equipment already cost a lot. This is kind of cheating against new player who have to start from scratch. Especially the aim time and reload equipment which cost so dam much. I really thing tier 1 aim time and reload should have creds reduction. Or add some really cheap ones for tier 1->4 as they are the hardest tiers to play.

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_Silent #2 Posted May 30 2016 - 05:03

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They are called pedo bears. they pray on small children. Basically they aren't good enough to play real tanks so they creep on newbies.  Just ignore them and let them farm WN8 so they feel good

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GeorgePreddy #3 Posted May 30 2016 - 05:03

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git gud

MCBAIN4EVER #4 Posted May 30 2016 - 05:13

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This game is pretty hard at the beginning, tier 5 was my first time having real fun in my upgraded BDR.

GeorgePreddy #5 Posted May 30 2016 - 05:18

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View Post_Silent, on May 30 2016 - 01:03, said:

They are called pedo bears. they pray on small children. Basically they aren't good enough to play real tanks so they creep on newbies.  Just ignore them and let them farm WN8 so they feel good

 

prey...  git gud at spelling

Mudman24 #6 Posted May 30 2016 - 05:45

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View PostArcticTankHunter, on May 29 2016 - 22:00, said:

I think there should be different tier of equipment. Seriously my friend slaps on a binocular and camo net on tier 1-3 vehicle making him impossible to be spotted by new players. The equipment already cost a lot. This is kind of cheating against new player who have to start from scratch. Especially the aim time and reload equipment which cost so dam much. I really thing tier 1 aim time and reload should have creds reduction. Or add some really cheap ones for tier 1->4 as they are the hardest tiers to play.

I agree with you on this.  They did this in Wot Blitz I believe and it makes new player more able to compete against the veteran players that really shouldn't be playing there regularly to begin with.  If you are just dropping down to start a new line or play a premium to train a crew for the x3 that is fine.  But if you have and average tier of less than 5 after 10s of thousands of battles you are one of the reasons people quit this game early and you are a dirty seal clubber who probable never learned to "git gud" at any higher tiers, so you stay in the kitty pool to make yourself look better than you are.



Verblonde #7 Posted May 30 2016 - 13:48

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Does equipment really make that much difference in the lower tiers? Many of the initial maps are fairly small, so do optics (for example) have the same impact they do higher up the tiers?

 

Could one also not argue that it's beneficial to one's development as a player to spend a bit longer lower down (grinding the credits to get equipment)?


 



RyanGetzIaf #8 Posted May 30 2016 - 14:26

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View PostGeorgePreddy, on May 29 2016 - 23:03, said:

git gud

 

I'm generally not against asking people to git gud, but seriously you look just rude when you say that to someone with under 250 battles

Mudman24 #9 Posted May 30 2016 - 14:38

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View PostRyanGetzIaf, on May 30 2016 - 07:26, said:

 

I'm generally not against asking people to git gud, but seriously you look just rude when you say that to someone with under 250 battles

Well, if you look at his average tier you will see that he gets most of his fun out of abusing the same players in game.



Verblonde #10 Posted May 30 2016 - 15:02

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Just a quick check as well (if you haven't read every last bit of the WOT manual): you can move binos (and camo nets) between vehicles for no cost.

I only mention this as I didn't twig to this immediately when I first started playing and it makes a significant difference once you realise.

If you don't mind waiting (if you don't survive a battle), you only need one set of binos and one one net, which reduces the credit grind a lot.

Asiaticus #11 Posted May 30 2016 - 15:13

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View PostMudman24, on May 29 2016 - 23:45, said:

I agree with you on this.  They did this in Wot Blitz I believe and it makes new player more able to compete against the veteran players that really shouldn't be playing there regularly to begin with.  If you are just dropping down to start a new line or play a premium to train a crew for the x3 that is fine.  But if you have and average tier of less than 5 after 10s of thousands of battles you are one of the reasons people quit this game early and you are a dirty seal clubber who probable never learned to "git gud" at any higher tiers, so you stay in the kitty pool to make yourself look better than you are.

 

In Blitz you can't move equipment. There is no depot. Once it's on a tank all you can do with it is sell it for 50% of the cost. Because of that, they can make the cost of equipment scale with tier, so it's cheap to put on a low tier tank and very expensive to put on a high tier tank. Newer players can fairly easily grind the credits needed to equip low tier tanks.

 

On PC, since equipment is movable, it all has to be really expensive. To change that, they would have to drastically revamp the equipment economy. For example, they could make equipment cheaper, but have an installation fee that scales with the tier of the tank it is being installed on.


Edited by Asiaticus, May 30 2016 - 15:14.


MCBAIN4EVER #12 Posted May 30 2016 - 17:15

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View PostRyanGetzIaf, on May 30 2016 - 13:26, said:

 

I'm generally not against asking people to git gud, but seriously you look just rude when you say that to someone with under 250 battles

 

That's true, In my case I needed more than 5k battles to git gud lol.

 

That's why a lot of people still play this game, that learning curve doe...



aethervox #13 Posted May 30 2016 - 18:20

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WoT is a F2P game. Thing is players are able to spend money on equipment upgrades.

Hence, WoT, is , in actuality, a P2W game or, at least, a P2I (improve) your vehicles game.

In other words, if you want to advance and/or improve your vehicles one must pay WG money.

A great many players do this.

You think WG offers this game for free? Sure they do for a proportion of the player base that will not ever pay them money.

However, WG offers 'services' for those who want any kind of advantage they are able to buy.

Hence, ArcticTankHunter, if you think there is too much 'seal clubbing' going on, all I got to say is this was a feature of WoT practically from Day 1.

We all have to go thru it (the low tiers) till we figure out how to get the enemy more than they get us.

In addition, some experienced and/or good players do like to play low tier vehicles simply because they are also (still) fun to play (it's not all seal clubbing intent).


Edited by aethervox, May 30 2016 - 18:24.





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