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Why the wz-111-5a should be reconsidered

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landedkiller #1 Posted Jun 16 2016 - 06:17

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Hi everyone my name is landedkiller22, you may be asking why did I make another post on this tank the answer is simple I wasn't specific enough on why this tank needed to come back and the 112 has been removed from the premium shop since the last update. Now I am

going to talk about why the wz-111-5a or the wz5 as I am going to call it in this thread. Main reasons below going to keep it simple

 

 

  1. Chinese heavy line is not consistent in tank characteristics wz-111-1-4 is not anything like the 113 
  2. Chinese heavy line is very similar to Soviet design  110 ~is3 , wz-111-1-4 ~T-10 not equal but similar in armor characteristics sloped armor/pike nose
  3. 113 is not really a heavy tank it is a combination of medium and heavy but more medium like well this fine but many want something more armored 
  4. wz-5 is similar to popular is-7 Soviet tank just faster and the same armor thickness
  5. Tank lines do exist that have a very much identical tank design but improved armor and better gun or improved foreign rate on their gun compared to the tier 9 variety examples include the T-10 and is-7, type 4 and type 5 Japanese hearts, the wiz-120 and the 121, and the E5o and the E 50 m

Now I am going to shut down any concerns many have had about this tank with solutions again in a list 

 

1.The the wz5 is op compared to the is7 well an easy solution is to make it so the wz5 does not have spaced side armor and has less speed than on the original test server and only slightly increasing the armor. now you may ask wouldn't this be pointless no it would not matter I think to people because they would like a tank that was similar to the is-7 but different and stronger than the 113 in some ways

 

2. The 113 would not be played as much if the wz5 was added I strongly think that there is a dedicated  bunch of players out there that would like to have a truly unique tank that requires more skill to learn than the average heavy line.

 

3.How could this be done? Well simple wg creates a tier 9 version of the 112 like they did with the type 59 medium tank and have it split off from the 110 with it leading to the 113 and the wz-111-1-4 to the wz5

 

 

 

How do you fit in you may ask well you can simply reference this thread when talking about this tank or create a suggestion for it much of the community is not informed of this tank so if we talk about it more there is more of a chance of this happening and yes I am sure wg would keep the 112 premium tank along with it's brother tank. Keep in mind that this was typed on a mobile device.

 

Thanks for reading landedkiller 22

 

 

 

 

 



NWGIX #2 Posted Jun 16 2016 - 06:18

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Double post...

landedkiller #3 Posted Jun 16 2016 - 06:21

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Correction on reason 5 list 1 fireing rate and a variety of tier 9 examples I may be out of cell range to respond also

landedkiller #4 Posted Jun 16 2016 - 06:22

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Bad connection and lag that is why I guess

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Xeraux #6 Posted Jun 16 2016 - 06:33

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Honest question; are you 12?

Scorpiany #7 Posted Jun 16 2016 - 06:40

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This post was... quite hard to understand. Also, you mentioned that the 112 was removed? It wasn't - It was buffed slightly, and the price was reduced. It's still very much so available in the store however... thus it couldn't be used as a brancher tank.

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View PostScorpiany, on Jun 15 2016 - 21:40, said:

This post was... quite hard to understand. Also, you mentioned that the 112 was removed? It wasn't - It was buffed slightly, and the price was reduced. It's still very much so available in the store however... thus it couldn't be used as a brancher tank.

 

I think he meant it was removed from the store and it is in fact removed btw.  Plus, WZ-120 is

for all intents and purposes really the Type 59...

 

As for OP...

 

The problem with WZ5A is whole bunch of problems and not as simple as you make it out to

be.  First, it had the option of 2 tier 10 guns these being the 122 mm that was found on 113

with similar stats before it was adjusted.  Then there was 130 mm like the one found on the

IS7, but with much better stats.  Unfortunately, having two different guns that were both viable

help make the WZ5a OP by allowing tankers to pick between accuracy and alpha.  Splitting it

into two tanks with different guns wouldn't help either as only the players who wanted a

specific gun would make those tanks OP themselves.  Then there was the speed and the

fact that the tank was faster then even the buffed 113.  Yes they had the same speed limit if I

recall correctly, but a buffed 113 would eat the WZ5A's dust in a drag race.  Then there was

the soft stats of the guns and they were amazing.  The 122mm was dead accurate with it's

shots even with a .36 rating and the 130 mm was no slouch either.  The nail in coffin is the

armor.  It had a LFP that was actually useful with side armor that was also good.

 

All in all it combined into a severely OP package.  It was so OP in fact that WG said, "No we

are not releasing that tank!"  How Op we'll never know, but in my opinion if they worked over

the guns and the tank's speed, then it would have been balanced.  In fact, I believe the 113

was just always a nerfed WZ5A with the 122 mm gun.  I do hope one day to see it in game

though...



landedkiller #9 Posted Jun 16 2016 - 15:34

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View PostScorpiany, on Jun 16 2016 - 06:40, said:

This post was... quite hard to understand. Also, you mentioned that the 112 was removed? It wasn't - It was buffed slightly, and the price was reduced. It's still very much so available in the store however... thus it couldn't be used as a brancher tank.

It was not in the current premium shop or in the in-game store currently and it is a limited release premium now from what I understand. The 112 could be used it just needs to be given a different gun and a slight increase to mobility 



landedkiller #10 Posted Jun 16 2016 - 15:39

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To make the wz-5 balanced it would need to have the max top speed at 35 and a reduction in engine power by 50 and keep the 130mm gun but have a longer reload than the is-7 but with more alpha damage a characteristic shared by a lot of the Chinese tanks in game. Honestly typing on a mobile device is harder with autocorrect. I do not answer questions on my age but I am well over the age of 18 so please stop asking as it has nothing to do with this post.

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View Postlandedkiller, on Jun 16 2016 - 06:39, said:

I do not answer questions on my age but I am well over the age of 18 so please stop asking as it has nothing to do with this post.

Usually those two don't go hand in hand.

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landedkiller #12 Posted Jul 07 2016 - 07:17

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http://ftr.wot-news....istorical-info/ added this for context of what I am thinking

Edited by landedkiller, Jul 17 2016 - 08:03.


landedkiller #13 Posted Dec 17 2016 - 19:45

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bumping as new plans unveiled have shown war gaming is interested again in the tank branch development it may not list Chinese specifically on here but might as well try http://worldoftanks....ser/17/wg-fest/

 

here is a gameplay video https://www.youtube....h?v=GCn5LkWgub0


Edited by landedkiller, Dec 21 2016 - 11:09.


landedkiller #14 Posted Oct 31 2018 - 23:09

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Yay Wz-111-5a is in the game !!!!





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