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Obsidian_Death #1 Posted Jun 17 2016 - 05:15

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This has been the tank that I think WG regrets everyday that it's used and played by many of us out here in WOT, the main issue is the UNOFFICIAL NERFS! This has been done in the sense of nerfing the acceleration from 0-65kph, in that it was pretty fast and now goes up through gears slowly with a 700HP engine and only weighing in at 25tons? In this aspect it used to drive and turn like an AMX and spin in a 360 fast, the other issue is the real tank did 65-70kph! This unofficial nerf happened and many people noticed it but WG never announced it, they also made it 2 feet taller, 2 feet longer and 2 feet wider than what the real version was, all due to this tank being smaller and being able to face hug T29's and other tanks and not get shot!  Another issue is the DMG and PEN, you used to at one time use gold and PEN/DMG an IS-6 by shooting the front hatch or the gun and shoulders if facing you,***Content moderated by RandomlyGeneratedNPC***  It was pretty good and a bit OP if played right but now it's a monster and those shots with gold don't do anything but bounce and with gold getting nerfed their goes your tier 6 gun.

 

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Then you have the SP1C/ SPIC (aka: The Racist Tank): It's bloody fun to be honest but was not and is not the Awful Panther, and should be played like a TD and not a scout in this game but with all the unofficial NERFS, why is the auto loader now dependent on firing all three rounds in order to reload? Keep in mind you could fire off after waiting the 20+ seconds and the 3 seconds between each shot, 2 rounds and hit reload and start cycling up for  3 rounds and now you have to use all three rounds an then you can reload a new 3 rounds ( it doesn't carry that many rounds ). Honestly WG stop the Unofficial Nerfs it's becoming petty on your behalf and it's this kind of stuff that will drive people away from your product or you can just keep drinking while the band plays on and the ship sinks!


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Riptide109 #2 Posted Jun 17 2016 - 05:21

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Oh boy. For one, the E25 was never built, and its size was barely touched in its HD remodel. The gun is to compensate for the good mobility and camo, and who can complain about a decent gun that shoots like an autoloader? Now, the SP1C. All autoloaders require you to reload the full mag reload even if you shoot only one shot. Decent players know when to reload, and it's not that hard.

 

Edit: From what I'm looking at right now, you have 4207 battles in your E25 and almost 1000 in your SP1C. The nerfs to the E25 took place in like 9.12 or something. and you obviously know how to play the E25. Why start complaining now?


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Huey_Long #3 Posted Jun 17 2016 - 05:27

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The tank was never built lol. Please do some actual sources or something before you claim that it was "Real" and "had these features". Lol.

WulfeHound #4 Posted Jun 17 2016 - 05:27

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E-25's size was not touched as drastically as you claim. Yes it got larger, but not to the dimensions as listed in Panzer Tracts.

 

As for the rest:



ogHaKo #5 Posted Jun 17 2016 - 05:29

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Well, first about the is-6. 

Armor layout that it has right now is more historical, as because on the blueprints of IS-6, the drivers hatch was 110mm, instead of 90 like it was.

 

Then, the reason why E-25 was taken out of the shop, is because it was and still is overpowered. You think biased towards E25, think about other tanks, that had to meet an e25. They couldnt see it, couldnt out maneuver it, couldnt out-dpm it. Hell, even tho its a turretless TD, you cant even circle it. Yet, there was atleast 1 or 2 of those little monsters per team at tier 7-8.

 

About SP 1C, can't comment here, because I haven't played that tank.



Oo_RNGesus_oO #6 Posted Jun 17 2016 - 05:33

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stop the e-25? Maybe that Ferdinand? Or the Jag 2?  ohhhh maybe the E-100/Maus oh must be the waffle? :justwait:

Legiondude #7 Posted Jun 17 2016 - 05:33

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The E 25 follows the stats laid out by Spielberger in Special Panzer Variants well enough, though it still stands to be brought up to date with the dimensions presented in Panzer Tracts 20-1(as in, it should be approaching Kanonenjagdpanzer size) it will remain protected by WG's "No nerfing premiums" policy

SuperTankDriver #8 Posted Jun 17 2016 - 05:36

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View PostogHaKo, on Jun 17 2016 - 04:29, said:

Well, first about the is-6. 

Armor layout that it has right now is more historical, as because on the blueprints of IS-6, the drivers hatch was 110mm, instead of 90 like it was.

 

Then, the reason why E-25 was taken out of the shop, is because it was and still is overpowered. You think biased towards E25, think about other tanks, that had to meet an e25. They couldnt see it, couldnt out maneuver it, couldnt out-dpm it. Hell, even tho its a turretless TD, you cant even circle it. Yet, there was atleast 1 or 2 of those little monsters per team at tier 7-8.

 

About SP 1C, can't comment here, because I haven't played that tank.

 

I think it was simply because E-25 was 'too popular'. I don't know if that's WG term for being overpowered, but it bogged down the MM due to pref MM.


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SuperTankDriver #9 Posted Jun 17 2016 - 05:40

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View PostogHaKo, on Jun 17 2016 - 04:29, said:

Well, first about the is-6. 

Armor layout that it has right now is more historical, as because on the blueprints of IS-6, the drivers hatch was 110mm, instead of 90 like it was.

 

Then, the reason why E-25 was taken out of the shop, is because it was and still is overpowered. You think biased towards E25, think about other tanks, that had to meet an e25. They couldnt see it, couldnt out maneuver it, couldnt out-dpm it. Hell, even tho its a turretless TD, you cant even circle it. Yet, there was atleast 1 or 2 of those little monsters per team at tier 7-8.

 

About SP 1C, can't comment here, because I haven't played that tank.

 

I think it was simply because E-25 was 'too popular'. I don't know if that's WG term for being overpowered, but it bogged down the MM due to pref MM.


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View PostSuperTankDriver, on Jun 17 2016 - 04:36, said:

 

I think it was simply because E-25 was 'too popular'. I don't know if that's WG term for being overpowered, but it bogged down the MM due to pref MM.


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Thats one of the reasons too. But, the reason it was popular, is because it was overpowered in the first place.

Dirizon #11 Posted Jun 17 2016 - 05:43

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l wouldn't say there are the nerfs to the Germans.  Wargaming does not operate like that, not at least anymore.

lt is the outrageous things for the Soviets, what they get, and new buffs and stealth buffs - that has always been problematic.

First and foremost, this game and its lobbying company, will always be a party of nationalistic Eastern European clowns with a terribly skewed view of world war ll and the Cold War. There is no changing that, this has been an ongoing debate for 6 years.

0h, would l love to see  Ukrainian Nationals, Pro-Russian liberation front, and 0ssetians all given stock piles of nuclear tipped missiles, and have these lesser people blast each other apart for the stupidest of reasons. 



Oo_RNGesus_oO #12 Posted Jun 17 2016 - 05:45

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lacylace always promised me a training class. Never happened.

SuperTankDriver #13 Posted Jun 17 2016 - 05:47

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View PostogHaKo, on Jun 17 2016 - 04:40, said:

 

Thats one of the reasons too. But, the reason it was popular, is because it was overpowered in the first place.

 

Ah, okay. I guess that makes sense.

Mini_Katyusha #14 Posted Jun 17 2016 - 05:54

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LOL this post must be a joke (just like E-25 is a joke to begin with) Can u explain us all how a never developed nazi crazy project for a 25 tons multi-role tank chasis under the massive weight of the allies pouncing the german industrial capacities and huge lack of resources and qualificated manpower could be smaller than Hetzer, a well proven CZECH made veteran weighting "only" 16 tons??? 

 

Dirizon: Interesting dude no battle played ever but almost 2k post? I can smell tons of hatred and racism here. You should go and try some of your great patriotic murican tank games... wait! there is none... go play some wacky bloody murican game, anyway, lol



Dirizon #15 Posted Jun 17 2016 - 05:59

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View PostMini_Katyusha, on Jun 17 2016 - 05:54, said:

 

Dirizon: Interesting dude no battle played ever but almost 2k post? I can smell tons of hatred and racism here. You should go and try 

 

That is weird. Says l have 23 thousand games beside my name. l'm not American, either. Actually, my family lineage is ancestral to these communist lesser peoples.  To my personal shame of course. 

 



Reiko_Nagase #16 Posted Jun 17 2016 - 06:01

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Somebody complaining about the E25. I have seen it all now. The E25 is easily the most OP Tier VII TD if played correctly.

Unbelievable.. WOT these days...



SchnitzelTruck #17 Posted Jun 17 2016 - 06:05

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These "unofficial nerfs" you are pulling out of your butt dont exist.

 

 



White_Runner #18 Posted Jun 17 2016 - 06:40

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Wasnt the e25 bigger IRL? I dunno.
Of course, is6 need an "adjustmen" but I feel that the SP1C its actually okay .u.

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View PostWhite_Runner, on Jun 17 2016 - 00:40, said:

Wasnt the e25 bigger IRL? I dunno.
Of course, is6 need an "adjustmen" but I feel that the SP1C its actually okay .u.

 

E-25 never was built. According to Spielburger's Special Panzer Variants it's the correct size, but it's too small according to Panzer Tracts 20-1

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View PostWulfeHound, on Jun 17 2016 - 05:43, said:

 

E-25 never was built. According to Spielburger's Special Panzer Variants it's the correct size, but it's too small according to Panzer Tracts 20-1

 

I mean, on papers... -u-




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