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Lubalin #1 Posted Jun 21 2016 - 06:25

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Every time I see one, I run. It's like punching a brick wall.

 

Just now, a Type 59 charged around a corner to find me in a t69, and two tier 8 heavies. I put 6 rounds into his hull and he bounced every one. He waltzed away having taken only 1 hit.

 

I know it's a reward tank, and mere mortals like me will never 'earn' one. But does this kind of favoritism really benefit the game?

 

The t-22 med got a nerf. Type 59 should be next.



stinkybean60 #2 Posted Jun 21 2016 - 06:28

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Are you kidding me? The Type 59 isn't even close to OP. You should be able to pen the hull with the T69, if not that's just bad rng. For real though, the Type has ebola gun stats and crapground resistance that make it very sluggish. It's still an all rounder, but by no means in a position to be nerfed.

 

And the "mere mortals like me will never 'earn' one" argument is retarded. I had to invest time and effort to get one, and a 48%er would have to do the exact same. There is no favoritism in getting one. If you feel otherwise, get better, find a good tourney team and earn it like everyone else.


Edited by stinkybean60, Jun 21 2016 - 06:30.


Abbathor #3 Posted Jun 21 2016 - 06:29

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Its already been nerfed several times and it doesnt really need one. Its one redeeming factor honestly is its armor and against lower pen guns like a t69 its armor works. I should clarify it doesn't even work that well when its facing lower pen guns then its like a 50/50 if a 175 pen gun pens it and IIRC the t69 got a pen buff so it should be able to pen it more reliably. 

 

Having said that I never seem to have problems making my 175 pen wz-111 gun work against type 59's.


Edited by Abbathor, Jun 21 2016 - 06:33.


Lubalin #4 Posted Jun 21 2016 - 06:37

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Yeah, sorry if it's a dead horse. It's frustrating. Here's proof (ish).

 

6 bounced shots:

 

 

And he had 1200 blocked damage:

 

I can't prove the shots were all to the hull, but I know better than to shoot the turret.



Twofingers #5 Posted Jun 21 2016 - 06:38

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It wasn't always a reward tank. It used to be in the premium shop. I recently won one in a contest and it does have good armor. The aim time is a bit rough and if a flank falls, it's not really fast enough to escape. I have seen it played very well in the right hands and it makes an excellent trophy to have in your garage. Overall, the tank is fine.

VillainousButler #6 Posted Jun 21 2016 - 06:38

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Trolling or not OP, you need to uninstall the game.

Lubalin #7 Posted Jun 21 2016 - 06:47

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Not trolling at all. I am frustrated every time I see this tank.

Lubalin #8 Posted Jun 21 2016 - 06:49

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Also, I love how only people with a zillion games played are coming out to defend it.

 

The old guard, and all that.

 

You want to keep your power, and I can't blame you.

 

Cheers, I'll stop harassing you now.



Protogoth #9 Posted Jun 21 2016 - 06:52

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In case you didn't know already the Type 59 isn't a reward tank it's a premium. Second to that all that "Is" mention able is you're overall performance. Let's throw a pity party for the bad player.:child:

Meows_really_heckin #10 Posted Jun 21 2016 - 07:01

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lol

BlackFive #11 Posted Jun 21 2016 - 07:05

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If the Type doesn't get to see the PZ III/IV with its original stats... it's not good enough.

 

Yawn.

 

 



Defender2803 #12 Posted Jun 21 2016 - 07:07

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View PostLubalin, on Jun 20 2016 - 23:49, said:

Also, I love how only people with a zillion games played are coming out to defend it.

 

The old guard, and all that.

 

You want to keep your power, and I can't blame you.

 

Cheers, I'll stop harassing you now.

 

Are you kidding me?

 

This tank was fun in a wolf pack and now it barely registers as a "reward" tank. Slow to get up to speed, less armor, less bounce, bad aim time, horrible fuel tank/ammo rack, and about a dozen other reasons you are being a [edited][edited]even trying to think this [edited].

 

What the [edited]you want them to do? Make it tier 10 only? How about reduce the armor so YOU can pen it. The "old guard" know how to pen it and kill it. Maybe you should stop whining and start learning. FFS it was one of the best tanks I had and now I just use it to sit in the back and wait for an opening to go feast on arty or campers in the back.



ArmorStorm #13 Posted Jun 21 2016 - 07:07

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View PostLubalin, on Jun 20 2016 - 23:49, said:

Also, I love how only people with a zillion games played are coming out to defend it.

 

The old guard, and all that.

 

You want to keep your power, and I can't blame you.

 

Cheers, I'll stop harassing you now.

 

Lol, the Type is a good tank and it used to be pretty close to a great one.  However, one side of the tank is all ammo rack, the armor on the sides and back isn't very thick the gun handling is poor and it's not as mobile as it once was.  The real thing that it has going for it is that most of the owners have hugely skilled crews in them and they have been playing the tank for years.  

 

If you let a "pocket heavy" bait you into a straight up fight in your T69, well that's on you.  It has most of the advantages in that situation.  If you let him engage then sweep around and use your autoloader on his flank then you would own the Type.  Different tanks need to use different tactics, would you be complaining about the Type being outmatched by the IS-3 in a straight up fight?  Same thing, the Type would need to circle around and attack weak points to defeat the IS-3.

 

 



Mudman24 #14 Posted Jun 21 2016 - 07:11

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Just stop.  It's a premium people paid for and it has been nerfed to a shadow of its former self.  It is in no way OP now and it is a insult to those who paid for it to say it needs more nerfs. 

Lubalin #15 Posted Jun 21 2016 - 07:17

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View PostDnknDonuts, on Jun 20 2016 - 22:52, said:

Second to that all that "Is" mention able is you're overall performance. Let's throw a pity party for the bad player.

 

Lol http://imgur.com/OdspUlY

 

 

View PostArmorStorm, on Jun 20 2016 - 23:07, said:

 If you let him engage then sweep around and use your autoloader on his flank then you would own the Type. 

 

6 rounds to his flank weren't enough to earn me a pen, apparently. Oh and I had 2 heavies with me.

 

View PostMudman24, on Jun 20 2016 - 23:11, said:

it is a insult to those who paid for it to say it needs more nerfs. 

 

Like I said, the old guard.



Mudman24 #16 Posted Jun 21 2016 - 07:19

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View PostLubalin, on Jun 21 2016 - 00:17, said:

Like I said, the old guard.

I don't even own one. 

 

Who are you calling old? Get OFF MY LAWN!!!



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it's a POS and nothing more. 



jawmonkey #18 Posted Jun 21 2016 - 07:55

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I bullseye Type 59's in my KV-13 in Beggar's Canyon back home.

Edited by jawmonkey, Jun 28 2016 - 07:03.


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View PostLubalin, on Jun 21 2016 - 00:49, said:

Also, I love how only people with a zillion games played are coming out to defend it.

 

The old guard, and all that.

 

You want to keep your power, and I can't blame you.

 

Cheers, I'll stop harassing you now.

A new player wouldnt use the world "old guard" as that is a term nearly unique to world of tanks. GG 2/10 effort



Treacherous_Neighbour #20 Posted Jun 21 2016 - 08:18

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Leave my goddam money printing troll tank alone,

 

Shoo OP shoo






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