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dance210 #1 Posted Jul 05 2016 - 16:50

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All active tournaments can be found by searching the Tournaments Home Page. Interested in what we having coming up? Check out the July  calendar!

 

 

A player has two ways to register for the Weekly 5v5! When you create the team, make sure that you are using the correct registration!

 

When you create a team, you can choose which time you want to play. Join the Early portion of the tournament to play at 15:00 PT / 18:00 ET or join the Late portion to play at 18:30 PT / 21:30 ET. Please note: you can only sign up for one time, and the default registration is for 18:30 PT / 21:30 ET.

 

So how do you select which time you want to play? It's easy! When you create a team, there will be Registration Option with a drop down menu. Simply switch from Late (18:30 PT) to Early (15:00  PT) and you are ready to go!

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  • Team Size: 5 combatants + 1 reserve
  • Map: Murovanka
  • Mode: Encounter
  • Tier Point Limit: 25
  • Tier Limits:
    • This represents the max tier allowed. Teams are allowed to bring lower tiers.
    • Light: Tier 5
    • Medium: Tier 5
    • Heavy: Tier 5
    • TD: Tier 5
    • SPG: Tier 5

 

 



Naproxeno_ #2 Posted Jul 05 2016 - 18:17

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So its like a weekday warface with less gold and no premium days :(
Good option the time, really good option. I hope the skirmish return in august. :)

Naproxeno_ #3 Posted Jul 05 2016 - 19:51

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Oh ... dance again... this tournament overlap with the platournaments... really? week tournament overlap with dayly tournament :( sad

_verminator_ #4 Posted Jul 05 2016 - 21:59

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so 5000 gold per day we get first? or 5000 gold after getting first at the end of whole tourney?

TheHuffpuff #5 Posted Jul 06 2016 - 01:47

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Dance, I wish these didn't overlap with the platotournaments.  It'll be hard for me to get a team together for it, as I have guys who enjoy the platotournaments but can't make the whole week.  As long as we have a lot of reserves permitted, then it will be fine.

 

I really like the idea of different time slots.  Brilliant move.

 

How does the prizing work?  Also, why is the prizing flat out worse than the Weekday Warfare (if I'm right assuming it is only awarded at the very end of the tournament).  Is it so that you can truly see whether doing tournaments this way will bring out more players (as in, no extra gold than normal attracting people and voiding the experiment)?


Edited by TheHuffpuff, Jul 06 2016 - 01:48.


spedkey #6 Posted Jul 06 2016 - 01:48

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(I paste my post from the topic I created when there wasn't an official one)

 

So what do you guys think?
All I see 5 days with group stages day and 5k for only ONE TEAM, the first place OVERALL. Or, for example, 2.5k for 5th to 8th.

Skirmish is (was?) 3 days + 2 days (with one round/enemy each) + 1 day (with two rounds/enemys)

 

Let's see the differences. Just three examples: 
a) Max potential winnings: 11k (3 for groups + 8 for 1st place in Alpha). Which is MORE than 5k
b) If you went to and won Bravo, and did 500 per group stage: 5.5k (1500 + 4000). Which is more than 5k. 
          b2) If you came in 5th-8th: 3k (1500 + 1500). Which is MORE than 2.5k

 

WG: you already know what we want and what you did wrong. 
Stop cutting prizes masqueraded in fancy names, new tourneys and invalid arguments about redistribution. 

 

 


Edited by spedkey, Jul 06 2016 - 01:52.


Trombose #7 Posted Jul 06 2016 - 02:27

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View Post_verminator_, on Jul 05 2016 - 15:59, said:

so 5000 gold per day we get first? or 5000 gold after getting first at the end of whole tourney?

 

5000 for finishing in first at the end of the week.

Basically this is a Weekday Warfare with two selectable times and absolutely slashed payouts, which is funny cause Dance said that the gold payouts weren't a problem and not the reason for the change in the second half of June and all of July, yet every new tournament they've posted for that time has a terrible payout (especially the summer play) compared to the old ones making them not worth the time investment unless you just like playing tournaments.


Edited by ThinkingOfYou, Jul 06 2016 - 02:30.


TheHuffpuff #8 Posted Jul 06 2016 - 03:34

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View PostThinkingOfYou, on Jul 06 2016 - 02:27, said:

 

5000 for finishing in first at the end of the week.

Basically this is a Weekday Warfare with two selectable times and absolutely slashed payouts, which is funny cause Dance said that the gold payouts weren't a problem and not the reason for the change in the second half of June and all of July, yet every new tournament they've posted for that time has a terrible payout (especially the summer play) compared to the old ones making them not worth the time investment unless you just like playing tournaments.

 

To be fair the Platotournament payout structure is actually pretty good for the majority of teams (not mine, we've placed 2nd in both so far).  It is a good idea.

 

The rest of the payout structures for the other tournaments are definetly subpar compared to the previous tournaments that were replaced.


Edited by TheHuffpuff, Jul 06 2016 - 03:42.


iCanon #9 Posted Jul 06 2016 - 05:47

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Oh look! Weekday warfare with less gold, more players per team, and still 1 reserve player.



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View PostTheHuffpuff, on Jul 05 2016 - 21:34, said:

 

To be fair the Platotournament payout structure is actually pretty good for the majority of teams (not mine, we've placed 2nd in both so far).  It is a good idea.

 

The rest of the payout structures for the other tournaments are definetly subpar compared to the previous tournaments that were replaced.

 

The Platournmanet is actually a decent change payout wise, it however is countered by the terrible name (I mean this doesn't really effect anything, but it is still a terrible name), and that it is every other day instead of every day like Stand To's. Stand To's was where a bunch of teams cut their teeth and learned how to play together in a tournament format before moving on to the higher competition tournaments, with half as many it is much harder to get to the point that you can move on to the bigger and better tournaments.

 

Also I didn't notice this until iCanon mentioned it but seriously only 1 reserve for a 5v5? Why does WG do this, things come up in real life, say one of your guys can do every day except Thursday, and then something in real life happens and one of your other guys now for whatever reason (lets say he laughed himself into a coma over the "happy player" line WG is pushing lately) and can now no longer show up Thursday, you're screwed.

It was bad enough when Weekday Warfare went through the horrible 3v3 with 1 reserve phase, it's even more idiotic when it's 5v5.

There should always be at least  2 reserves, always.

 

Edit: One last thing, I actually like the idea of the two different times you could pick for this tournament that wouldn't be a bad change to make to Weekday Warfare if it ever comes back, with one change, you should be able to enter both times.

The way it is right now it just needlessly splits the field for a tournament that will probably have a lower than normal turnout (although maybe not because many of us are addicted to the tournaments and will join anyway even though the prizes don't match the time commitment).

Point is those that can should be able to join both times, you'd end up having more teams in each time bracket.


Edited by ThinkingOfYou, Jul 06 2016 - 06:50.


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View PostThinkingOfYou, on Jul 06 2016 - 00:32, said:

 

The Platournmanet is actually a decent change payout wise, it however is countered by the terrible name (I mean this doesn't really effect anything, but it is still a terrible name), and that it is every other day instead of every day like Stand To's. Stand To's was where a bunch of teams cut their teeth and learned how to play together in a tournament format before moving on to the higher competition tournaments, with half as many it is much harder to get to the point that you can move on to the bigger and better tournaments.

 

Also I didn't notice this until iCanon mentioned it but seriously only 1 reserve for a 5v5? Why does WG do this, things come up in real life, say one of your guys can do every day except Thursday, and then something in real life happens and one of your other guys now for whatever reason (lets say he laughed himself into a coma over the "happy player" line WG is pushing lately) and can now no longer show up Thursday, you're screwed.

It was bad enough when Weekday Warfare went through the horrible 3v3 with 1 reserve phase, it's even more idiotic when it's 5v5.

There should always be at least  2 reserves, always.

 

Edit: One last thing, I actually like the idea of the two different times you could pick for this tournament that wouldn't be a bad change to make to Weekday Warfare if it ever comes back, with one change, you should be able to enter both times.

The way it is right now it just needlessly splits the field for a tournament that will probably have a lower than normal turnout (although maybe not because many of us are addicted to the tournaments and will join anyway even though the prizes don't match the time commitment).

Point is those that can should be able to join both times, you'd end up having more teams in each time bracket.

 

All very good points. 


Edited by Hanzo_San, Jul 06 2016 - 11:51.


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View PostTheHuffpuff, on Jul 05 2016 - 23:34, said:

To be fair the Platotournament payout structure is actually pretty good for the majority of teams (not mine, we've placed 2nd in both so far).  It is a good idea.

 

View PostThinkingOfYou, on Jul 06 2016 - 02:32, said:

The Platournmanet is actually a decent change payout wise [...] 

I agree in some degree. 

But as soon as it is WORST than before for anyone in the final standing/positions/prizes then it's WORST than before, and -therefore- we can't tolerate those changes.

I.E: If WG wants to give more gold or more prizes to more teams, GREAT. But don't lower the payout of anyone in the process


Edited by spedkey, Jul 06 2016 - 15:53.


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View PostThinkingOfYou, on Jul 06 2016 - 06:32, said:

 

The platournamenr is a terrible name (I mean this doesn't really effect anything, but it is still a terrible name).

 

What does PLA even mean??????

 

It feels so dumb to tell people ur in the PLA tourney.  Really, PLA???? 



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Why not chg Weekly 5X5 to Weekly 5 and run it on Mon Tues, Weds, Sat and Sun so that it does not conflict with PLA?

 

The way it is now we had to decide which one to do instead of doing both.

 

 



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View PostR__E__C__O__N, on Jul 06 2016 - 11:10, said:

 

What does PLA even mean??????

 

It feels so dumb to tell people ur in the PLA tourney.  Really, PLA???? 

 

I don't think anyone really likes the name, except for the guy that came up with it.

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View PostHanzo_San, on Jul 06 2016 - 15:05, said:

 

I don't think anyone really likes the name, except for the guy that came up with it.

 



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View PostHanzo_San, on Jul 06 2016 - 14:05, said:

 

I don't think anyone really likes the name, except for the guy that came up with it.

 

I like the name.

 

I just read where this 5v5 is in response to the feedback given regarding the tourney changed in July. According to the feedback they have determined that we want gimped Weekday Warefare tourneys that conflict with other tournaments.



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Hmm new tournament forums 3v3, and 5v5, guess that pretty much confirms that the old ones won't be coming back, at least not any time soon.


Edited by ThinkingOfYou, Jul 06 2016 - 23:03.


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I'm sorry guys, but we should not waste any second discussing the name. That's to WG's advantage.

 

Let's focus on the insult that is to the players the whole tourney changes.

They know what they were/are doing. It's up to us to show them they can't get away with this.



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Where is WG reading these feedbacks and creating new tournament formats from? Because as far as I know, all the feedbacks have been about bringing back the old tournament format. Not this garbage format.

 

Clearly, they are reading our feed backs guys.





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