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Yeah it could be called gameplay, could also fit in with glitches but we all know thats the one thing wargaming doesnt pay attention to.

WOT hadnt crashed in about a week so I was a bit overdue for one of their pattented "I pay no attention to my game or player input" pre-game crashes. The window closed and tab disappeared while the map was loading. A bit of a pisoff but not much of a problem. After restarting the client, waiting a year for the log in screen to pop up, and another year to load the map I finally got back in game with 75% hp left. Off to a great start here, some guy was behind me picking off my armor with his pissgun, it was an ally that I could not shoot. Getting ticked off here.

So im working on getting XP and running around the map, had a great advance going. So far so good, friendly jadgpanther was wiping out all in its path clearing a way for me.

Suddenly, I stop moving, the window closes and the tab disappears. The game f*cking crashed, again...

Ok, things couldnt get much worse now. Click WOT, start client, wait a year, yhadda yhadda yhadda, take forever to load the map, and we start again. Thank god my tank kept moving, it hit the invisible wall and stoped me between 2 hills right next to the enemy base. So i was still alive. I proceeded to move up a bit until someone shot at me. Thank god it bounced. He poped off a few more rounds after I backed up a bit, they all bounced so it had to be the su-76 in the bush. Lucky for me the indicator was pointing right to the only bush in that vicinity. I moved up a bit so my gun could lower onto him and he appeared after the 19th fekking shot.

I fired on him, my 125-209mm penitration round bounced off his 30mm cabin plate armor. Wasnt a shot at an angle, was a direct line of fire flatshoting his cabin armor. Not hull, not gun, the cabin. The same thing happened yesterday to an m37 artillery. Bounced off hit pathetic armor too. So I loaded explosive to avoid more bullsh*t and got him.

So his SU-152 buddy decided to avenge him. Lucky for me, i still had explosive rounds loaded. Poped a shot off at him as he was coming towards me. My EXP round bounced. Shot again, bounced again, thats 2 explosive rounds bouncing. He flew up around the building, too fast for even my turret and hull to turn and counter and shot my ass with a derp gun. There goes the lowly KV...

It was then I realised something. Americans have speed/mobility, germans have guns/armor, russians have both... A bit (and by a bit i mean the exact opposite) of historical innaccuracy but what was I to expect from a company openly admitting to favor the russian tree.

So there you have it. Enough errors fit into one game big enough to fill a maus. Im wondering how the hell this stuff doesnt fit in the catagory of 'critical errors', the kind of stuff that is basicly worked on the minute it shows up in other MMOs. Leave it to wargaming...

Dont get me wrong its a fun game, but what the hell ya know? Where does all the money forked over go? Certainly not into updates and staff for updating because the last claim to that action was 6.4 and we all know how THAT worked out.

So it was Ok that he bounced all those shots on you but as soon as you bounce a couple all hell has broken loose and the game is soviet bias? By your logic that SU-76 should have ripped you open since its Soviet. Sure the game has glitches but I would not be so quick to say they arent correcting them and that they arent updating the game. Every patch seems to fix some things and add more new stuff. Next time you are hung up do everyone a favor, take a screenshot of the location and submit it as a bug.

No sense getting angry because it wont help you or anyone friend. BTW not (-)repping you since I feel your pain in some instances.

See, I have a hard time believeing the "This game is broken' line, because I experience none of these problems, and have no problem recognizing game mechanics at work.  Maybe the devs just don't like you.  Maybe they know you're onto the great conspiracy...

 Ironmonger69, on Jul 27 2011 - 19:43, said:

The guy who wrote the OP has complained about literally everything in the game.
He should just quit.

 Viper69, on Jul 27 2011 - 19:37, said:

The soviet bias didnt start with the 76, it started about about 6 months ago during beta and continues to this day. I decided to bring up that I bounced open the 76 because the 25AT I had faced with my jadgpanther buddy didnt bounce much at all. In fact, I would have finished him if he wasnt on fire. The 76 was stock by the look of it and using AP rounds.

The game has glitches is an understatement. What the hell was the point of beta if basicly nothing was changed. They just let it rip and threw the game into its official state without changing the critical errors, like said crashes and camoflage. THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN TWEEKED MONTHS AGO AND STILL HASENT BEEN TWEKED TO THIS DAY. I cant take screenshots of invisible tanks and a mid game crash, all they should have to do is take my word for it but they dont. They just ignorantly run about the forums and defend the hell out of their neglegence. Then they post a patch to get everyones spirits up and it turns out something else has gone wrong.

 hectorjr21, on Jul 27 2011 - 19:45, said:

YEAH no see, if someone offered you a free can of cola would you take it? The answer for me is yes. What if its warm? Still yes.

Youre one of the guys who would defend to the death that wargaming is the perfect comittee of awesomeness. You dont complain about any of the flaws, just continue sucking up to the highly glitched game known as World Of Tanks. At this point they literally have their own brand of BS labeled 'neglegence'.

If nobody speaks up and the designers dont play their own game, how the living hell is the game going to be fixed?

 MisterLemons, on Jul 27 2011 - 19:49, said:

Claiming that devs have a Russian bias is just an excuse for bad players. Which you definitely fit into.

If the game constantly crashed for everyone, then their would be more than 1 person saying so, this forum would be full of "game crashes, fix it devs!!!" like during the lag spikes that occurred after the 0.6.4 patch was released.

It sounds like you HATE the game, just quit, its not like they're going to change the game to fit your exact needs.

 hectorjr21, on Jul 27 2011 - 19:55, said:

Absoloutely dismissing the idea that there is a bias (which was proven some months ago) is the sure sign for someone as blissgully ignorant as the devs themselves. Just because you have an excuse for something doesnt mean that the other option is completely and utterly useless, expecially when they have admitted to a pro-russian anti-german favoring.

If you had the slightest bit of literacy you would have read that I posted that I enjoy the game, but the flaws are beginning to sip the scale a bit. Theyre obviously not going to change it for my needs but god damn, are you THAT ignorant to not see what the hellis going on here? The last patch addressing 'invisible tanks' was 6.4 and after one micron of an adjustment it was dissmissed. People still complain about that and they dont seem to give half a f*ck.

 MisterLemons, on Jul 27 2011 - 19:49, said:

Welcome to MMOs. They are an ever growing constantly more complex beast each day.

 Ironmonger69, on Jul 27 2011 - 19:43, said:

Glad I am not the only one along this line.

Sounds like the issues are on user's end. I don't experience none of the issues listed and favor my German lowe over garage full of Russian tanks. I think there is German bias.

 MisterLemons, on Jul 27 2011 - 20:01, said:

How was a "bias" proven?
All of your posts are about how German tanks suck, or about the MM, or the spotting system. You can't say you enjoy the game, but at the same whine on the forums about the core game mechanics.
The 6.4 made so that tanks lost all of their camo bonus when they fired. It works a lot better than it did before.
Invisible tanks are not going away, you either learn to abuse the system with camo/camo nets/binocs... etc, or you just go on the forums and whine endlessly about it.

I know how the OP feels, Today i had my 152mm gun (286mm average penetration, 215 minimum penetration) bounced off a Ferd (200mm of FLAT armor) what the hell.

 Garnett101st, on Jul 27 2011 - 21:01, said:

I feel this way everytime I get into my T30 =(. Bounce off damn near everything. 'Sweet an Is-3 I can penetrate anywh- oh nope. bounced' 'Side of a Jagdtiger I can p- Oops, nvm' And the ever prevelent bouncing off the EVERYTHING of an is7 when my t34's gun had no problems with it. I feel like the higher your penetration, the worst off the gun is.

 hectorjr21, on Jul 27 2011 - 20:48, said:

The bias was prooven in some  god forsaken forum by a game review company... typed in russian...
Cant manage to find the page anywhere or the link but thanks to translators the words "differ from historical traits as a slight boost to the soviet USSR line of armored vehicles has been granted for an appeal to Russian gamers" hit the fan and the word spread.

Even if you look at the 6.4 list of changes you will see about 2x as many russian damage and speed buffs as you see german rate of fire and accuracy nerfs. 6.4 didnt change camoflage to a degree and this can be prooven by getting hit by TDs about 70 meters away and not poping up until someone has the balls to show him what for. And Im sorry I cant take advantage of the camoflage system as my panthers 100% camoflage trained crew and camoflage net only allow me to fire and remain hidden at 200 meters...

The thread was origonaly about how many flaws wargaming managed to fit in one match but you have managed to blow it into the whole 'russian bias' when clearly there is something wrong with the game as the fearsom tiger is something most dont want to get into a tangle with a KV...

 MisterLemons, on Jul 28 2011 - 05:44, said:

IMO, this game is fairly balanced, a few tweaks to a few tanks, and the game will be fine, but if you want to believe that WG has a Russian bias, then go ahead.

I can't remember the exact 6.4 changes, but most of them were buffs to German tanks, the only buff a Russian tank got was a speed buff for the IS3.

I'm addressing all the issues that you listed in the your OP, one of which is how Russian tanks are favored in this game.

The only advantages TD's have is their camo, of course they are going to be hard to spot, if they weren't, then they would be useless.

Correct me if I am wrong, but according to the Russian bias theory, if I had chosen to play just Russian tanks instead of the 'crappy' (I like em) American tanks, my stats would be fricken out of this world instead of being just average? http://forum.worldof...mile_amazed.gif

Hmmm sounds brave!

To the OP, yeah I dislike the CTD'ing as well. I CTD maybe 8-15 times per day... so much pain.

And I have specs that can easily handle this game and internet.

no ctd's for me and that is playing on a USA server from the EU, i do get the occasional lag spike where i watch my tank rock back and forth a bit then proceeed to show me all the key presses execute and i wait to see if at the end i am dead, but those are not very common. Other than that i face the same irritants as everyone else, sure they can be frustrating at times, but then i cannot recall playing any pvp game and not being frustrated at some point. It is a competitive environment and niggles can get exaggerated if things are not going well, nature of the beast so to speak

Sounds like the OP has issues on his end, computer issues.