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Poll: Worst part of the game (929 members have cast votes)

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What is the worst part of this game

  1. Losing streaks (339 votes [20.99%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.99%

  2. Artillery (424 votes [26.25%])

    Percentage of vote: 26.25%

  3. Game stagnation (200 votes [12.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.38%

  4. Stacked teams (Rigged MM) (470 votes [29.10%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.10%

  5. Use of unfair mods (182 votes [11.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.27%

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Hiroe #41 Posted Jul 12 2016 - 00:50

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I consider taking a break from time to time because of artillery, usually after getting blown up in one shot/taking more than half my health in damage. Everything else is tolerable.

goodlife250m #42 Posted Jul 12 2016 - 00:55

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View PostGP_Large, on Jul 12 2016 - 00:49, said:

 

I don't see this as an issue.  I have never had a bad losing streak, not the way most tin-foil-hat wearers talk about it.  Teams can be stacked both ways.

 

The mm is fine.  There is no significant way to make it better.  Explaining to the masses why things are the way they are is a better though process.


 

The rest of your thoughts are significant only to you all that thinks there is some kind of major problem.  There is not one.  Other than those feeding in to the thought that there is a major problem.

 

"Blah, blah, balh, blah..... blah, blah, blah.

 

Now, doesn't my use of the blah, blah, blah tactic make you feel silly and insignificant?"

 

No, not really.

 



Iron_Soul_Stealer #43 Posted Jul 12 2016 - 00:59

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View Postgoodlife250m, on Jul 11 2016 - 18:55, said:

Which part of the game is driving people away?

 

^..Hey OP, is it possible to vote for more than one choice in your poll..?

I voted long losing streaks, but I'd like to add unfair/illegal cheat mods to that vote as being equally frustrating.

 

 



GP_Large #44 Posted Jul 12 2016 - 00:59

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View Postgoodlife250m, on Jul 11 2016 - 14:55, said:

 

"Blah, blah, balh, blah..... blah, blah, blah.

 

Now, doesn't my use of the blah, blah, blah tactic make you feel silly and insignificant?"

 

No, not really.

 

 

But you are.

Both silly and insignificant.

The problems you are whining about are not an issue.

There was a good post that I quoted that states the major issue.  New players, and those with high battle counts that don't get it.  That stat pad in an M2 but cant play anything else.


 

Players like you.


Edited by GP_Large, Jul 12 2016 - 01:00.


Praematura #45 Posted Jul 12 2016 - 01:05

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There's a steep learning curve. So putting bads in rentals/premiums gets lots of dead weight at a tier way above where they should be. A lot of valid points by op, but I do think WG is aware of the issues because the Russians complaining about the same things. Fact of the matter is this is still the best tank game hands down so go participate in SB, provide feedback and see what happens. 

goodlife250m #46 Posted Jul 12 2016 - 01:06

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View PostIron_Soul_Stealer, on Jul 12 2016 - 00:59, said:

 

^..Hey OP, is it possible to vote for more than one choice in your poll..?

I voted long losing streaks, but I'd like to add unfair/illegal cheat mods to that vote as being equally frustrating.

 

 

 

Sure, I'll change it.

 

Edit - It looks like once you've voted, you're done. I changed the poll but it doesn't let you vote again. Sorry


Edited by goodlife250m, Jul 12 2016 - 01:11.


goodlife250m #47 Posted Jul 12 2016 - 01:10

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View PostGP_Large, on Jul 12 2016 - 00:59, said:

 

But you are.

Both silly and insignificant.

The problems you are whining about are not an issue.

There was a good post that I quoted that states the major issue.  New players, and those with high battle counts that don't get it.  That stat pad in an M2 but cant play anything else.


 

Players like you.

 

And there it is, reverting to insults. lol. OK

 

Then he knowing states "There is no problem, except you because your opinion is different than mine."

 

In this post I was hoping to avoid those who turn to insults. Oh well.



GP_Large #48 Posted Jul 12 2016 - 01:11

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View PostPraematura, on Jul 11 2016 - 15:05, said:

There's a steep learning curve. So putting bads in rentals/premiums gets lots of dead weight at a tier way above where they should be. A lot of valid points by op, but I do think WG is aware of the issues because the Russians complaining about the same things. Fact of the matter is this is still the best tank game hands down so go participate in SB, provide feedback and see what happens.

 

I see the rentals as an issue.   I understand WG's attempt to get some players to try them so they'll buy them.  I would prefer if they choose to offers the tier 8 rentals so that they can only be unlocked if playing tier 6 and above games.  A tier 6 tank is occasionally (should be 1/3) games at tier 8.  At least they'll know what they're in for.

 

There is a universal thought in gaming that higher = better.  That's true, but what folks don't understand in this game is that higher  = more difficult.  And they yolo their shiny rental.


Edited by GP_Large, Jul 12 2016 - 01:19.


GP_Large #49 Posted Jul 12 2016 - 01:17

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View Postgoodlife250m, on Jul 11 2016 - 15:10, said:

 

And there it is, reverting to insults. lol. OK

 

Then he knowing states "There is no problem, except you because your opinion is different than mine."

 

In this post I was hoping to avoid those who turn to insults. Oh well.

 

You said it first, and chose to down play my points.


 

And seal clubbing is not a choice on your poll - although others have mentioned it.

 

To answer the premise of your poll, you must first take a hard look in the mirror.


 

I'm not attempting to insult you, you are taking it that way because I am pretty close to the truth.


 

You may want to leave for these issues.  But they are not really issues.  You think they are because you can't blame your bad game play on anything else.


 

Again, look in the mirror, it will help.  That's where the issue is.  Read what I quoted about high battle count players.  You are one of them.



goodlife250m #50 Posted Jul 12 2016 - 01:20

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Wow, this game is rigged as hell. The "random" losing streak continues.

goodlife250m #51 Posted Jul 12 2016 - 01:22

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View PostGP_Large, on Jul 12 2016 - 01:17, said:

But you are.

Both silly and insignificant

 

I'm not attempting to insult you, you are taking it that way because I am pretty close to the truth.

 

lol - a little mirror time perhaps?

 

Just go away would you? 

 

 



Iron_Soul_Stealer #52 Posted Jul 12 2016 - 01:27

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View Postgoodlife250m, on Jul 11 2016 - 19:06, said:

 

Sure, I'll change it.

 

Edit - It looks like once you've voted, you're done. I changed the poll but it doesn't let you vote again. Sorry

 

^..Thanks for trying Dude.

It looks to be a technical/forum issue with the mechanics of the WG poll system itself...and not you.

~Carry on.

 

 

 



goodlife250m #53 Posted Jul 12 2016 - 01:30

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View PostGP_Large, on Jul 12 2016 - 01:17, said:

Again, look in the mirror, it will help.  That's where the issue is.  Read what I quoted about high battle count players.  You are one of them.

 

BTW, you do realize you're telling someone to "look in the mirror" based on a video game? You do see the humor in that, right?



GP_Large #54 Posted Jul 12 2016 - 01:31

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View Postgoodlife250m, on Jul 11 2016 - 15:22, said:

 

lol - a little mirror time perhaps?

 

Just go away would you?

 

 

 

 

This is an open forum.

You posted a poll that none of the selections are important or significant.


 

Others have brought up for discussion other issues that could cause player angst.


 

You believe the game is rigged and you losing streak continues.


 

I bet you're not in your m2 seal clubbing.


 

I have no need to look in the mirror.  I understand my strengths and weaknesses, and the what I expect from a "free" game.


 

There are improvements needed.  With your tin foil hat on, you can not separate the issues from your inability to understand the game.


Edited by GP_Large, Jul 12 2016 - 01:34.


GP_Large #55 Posted Jul 12 2016 - 01:33

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View Postgoodlife250m, on Jul 11 2016 - 15:30, said:

 

BTW, you do realize you're telling someone to "look in the mirror" based on a video game? You do see the humor in that, right?

 

 

OK, you now have proved you are not full of wits.

 

Literally "you" IRL need to look in the mirror.


 

Again, if you can't grasp this, I understand why you are having issues with the game.  Because the issues you have are not issues.



Lethalhavoc #56 Posted Jul 12 2016 - 01:41

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View PostGP_Large, on Jul 12 2016 - 01:33, said:

 

 

OK, you now have proved you are not full of wits.

 

Literally "you" IRL need to look in the mirror.


 

Again, if you can't grasp this, I understand why you are having issues with the game.  Because the issues you have are not issues.

 

There is no point in arguing with him.

He's made up his mind that the game is broken, because he does so well in the lower tiers, but not in the higher tiers.

And all this thread is about, is trying to get people to confirm it for him.



goodlife250m #57 Posted Jul 12 2016 - 01:42

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View PostGP_Large, on Jul 12 2016 - 01:33, said:

 

 

OK, you now have proved you are not full of wits.

 

Literally "you" IRL need to look in the mirror.


 

Again, if you can't grasp this, I understand why you are having issues with the game.  Because the issues you have are not issues.

 

What I think is funny is people who feel the need to come on this forum to insult people and sound like they are being intelligent, ALL OVER A VIDEO GAME. lol

 

As long as it makes you feel better man.



ammo_magnet #58 Posted Jul 12 2016 - 01:45

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I would say player like you!!!!! are driving new players away.

 

 


Edited by ammo_magnet, Jul 12 2016 - 01:49.


Steamboat_Willy_Sr #59 Posted Jul 12 2016 - 01:47

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It's becoming a self fulfilling prophecy and tail spin of sorts.   As more and more  players become aware of the games short comings, they become more easily frustrated by them and more apt to put the game down, for a while at least.  This leads to longer queues and more imbalanced matches, which more players take notice of and the circle continues. 

 

Without a constant stream of new players, that either are unaware of the games short comings or just don't know any better, that will stick around long enough to become the new mid tier average Joe's (seal clubbing permitting), the downward spiral is going to continue.



aswitz87 #60 Posted Jul 12 2016 - 01:53

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I have temporarily for a while now given up because I ran out of steam.  The monotony of battle after battle with not much difference (silly game modes aside) wore me out.  May have gotten less bored if I had gotten strong into clan wars before I took my first break, but from what I've heard it was worth not bothering.

 

Of the things listed:

 

Losing streaks didn't once bug me.  I understood the math behind a 15v15 match up and started with the expectation that I was going to lose a lot.  

 

Arty didn't bug me too much.  It was just something that existed... like mosquitoes... the size of houses.

 

Stacked teams don't exist, at least not in the way that was implied (intentional).  Everything I've seen has reaffirmed that belief, MM works with what its got with the rules WG has given it, none of them applying to player stats.  And when it doesn't have a lot to work with, stuff goes wrong.  Won't deny that sometimes, even frequently, top tiers and classes are off.  Downside of making a team of 15 and then trying to make another after that... some times there aren't any high tier left in queue.

 

Illegal mods don't bother me in the same way they would for other games.  Various reasons.  Yeah I'm annoyed that people will use them, but that is just the nature of some folks.  No desire to be proud of their own achievement.  Or whatever causes it.

 

So for me, stagnation.  Just got drained of the sameness.

 

 

I keep sticking around, hoping I'll decide to start back.  But the longer it takes, the harder it gets it seems.  Most games have gone that way.  






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