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Lethalhavoc #41 Posted Aug 01 2016 - 20:22

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It's hard to believe that so many people are afraid of a very positive change in the rule enforcement policy.

Free rewards for not being a prick seems like a good thing to me.

Why be afraid of it?



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View PostArchaic_One, on Aug 01 2016 - 18:49, said:

What an idiotic way to do this.  So you are basically legitimizing all of the griefers that constantly report people for hacks and cheats regardless of whether or not there is actually cheating going on?  So every unicum player in WoT will be banned within the first week?  GG WG, GG.  

 

**I just turned off my in-game chat**

 

Now baddies will be motivated even more to abuse in-game reporting system based on their noobishness (haxor! shooting trough walls! reload hax! pen hax! aimbot! etc.) to make impossible players getting those "good boy" rewards...

 

I expected nothing and I'm still let down....



Lethalhavoc #43 Posted Aug 01 2016 - 20:23

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View PostArchaic_One, on Aug 01 2016 - 20:21, said:

So what about in-game reports?  How are these treated?  If myself and two platoon mates mass report somebody, can we eventually get them banned for being better than us?

 

No, that's not likely.

Spam reporting has never led to a ban (if there was no just cause) to the best of my knowledge, so why would that change now?


Edited by Lethalhavoc, Aug 01 2016 - 20:25.


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View PostLethalhavoc, on Aug 01 2016 - 11:22, said:

It's hard to believe that so many people are afraid of a very positive change in the rule enforcement policy.

Free rewards for not being a prick seems like a good thing to me.

Why be afraid of it?

 

Because WGNA has a horrible history getting anything right on the first try.

 

Have you noticed that the mods now frequently just delete threads instead of tossing them in the locked section, kinda like they're hiding the moderated content so nobody can call them on it if they are being arbitrary.

 

If  When this policy goes in place, ALL moderation needs to be signed, and moderated content (unless porn, racist ranting, ect) needs to be viewable by the public, so we can decide as a community if the mods are off their meds or not.



Tracker40 #45 Posted Aug 01 2016 - 20:27

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Here is how to avoid risking your accounts after the 8th

 

  1. Do not post anything to the forums anymore, some mods have really thin skin and you risk getting a strike
  2. No longer load into a pub match (Only play in clan battles) because you risk being called a cheater if you outplay the other guy.
  3. This can be attached to part 2. sit in your garage and spin your tanks around.

 

Man I really hate this idea and if WG had any sense they would look at the players posting this is a bad ideas history for strikes and in game ban's and see its not the griffers that are posting don't do this its a bad idea. 

 

 



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View PostLethalhavoc, on Aug 01 2016 - 13:23, said:

 

No, that's not likely.

Spam reporting has never led to a ban (if there was no just cause) to the best of my knowledge, so why would that change now?

 

Um, because that seems to be what this policy is all about?

PoliticallyIncorrectName #47 Posted Aug 01 2016 - 20:27

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But basically WG is going to award bots. Because they are inactive on forum (so they cannot get banned from it); inactive in in-game chat, so they cannot either and reporting bots trough in-game system does nothing. Otherwise we wouldn't have 20k+  games bot accounts. In fact, it is more profitable to keep bots in game because they are likely to have prem time bought and/or used invite code for e.g. JG88. 

 

Also...

 

WG, how did you manage T22 rigging? Oh right, and now you want to talk about rules....



Zepherex #48 Posted Aug 01 2016 - 20:28

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Wow no cyber bullying?! World is so pc now. People can say whatever they want and not have to listen to opinions they dont like?!@

 

Wargaming is trying to make it a safespace lmbo

 

 

 



Tolos #49 Posted Aug 01 2016 - 20:29

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I like the ingame stuff. But until you get better forum moderators the forum thing is kinda stupid. 

 

Hell I got a 3 day RO for a post I made a YEAR ago. For asking " it seems you cant ask a legitimate question "....

 

People on the forums report for the most idiotic things sometimes and until the mods can use common sense and understand the word context, all you are going to get is a bunch of people mass reporting posts just to get people banned.



Lethalhavoc #50 Posted Aug 01 2016 - 20:32

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View PostCenotaph, on Aug 01 2016 - 20:26, said:

 

Because WGNA has a horrible history getting anything right on the first try.

 

Have you noticed that the mods now frequently just delete threads instead of tossing them in the locked section, kinda like they're hiding the moderated content so nobody can call them on it if they are being arbitrary.

 

If this policy goes in place, ALL moderation needs to be signed , and moderated content (unless porn, racist ranting, ect) needs to be viewable by the public, so we can decide as a community if the mods are off their meds or not.

 

The player base has been complaining since I started, that the rule enforcement by WG sucked. The Mods had it in for them, and that others got away with murder.

This is the change that many people have hoped for.

Any sanction against a player is appealable, meaning that there is a fair recourse to remedy unjust sanctions.


 

WG employee's don't have a free hand to do what ever they want, they all answer to supervisors, just like any other company.

If a mod(s) unjustly sanction a player, I'm sure they hear about it from their bosses.



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View PostLethalhavoc, on Aug 01 2016 - 11:23, said:

 

No, that's not likely.

Spam reporting has never led to a ban (if there was no just cause) to the best of my knowledge, so why would that change now

  ​Plus doesn't wargaming have to view replays to judge whether or not the person is cheating?  Cause with this new update I can easily see bad players abusing this system thinking otherwise.



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View PostLethalhavoc, on Aug 01 2016 - 14:32, said:

 

The player base has been complaining since I started, that the rule enforcement by WG sucked. The Mods had it in for them, and that others got away with murder.

This is the change that many people have hoped for.

Any sanction against a player is appealable, meaning that there is a fair recourse to remedy unjust sanctions.


 

WG employee's don't have a free hand to do what ever they want, they all answer to supervisors, just like any other company.

If a mod(s) unjustly sanction a player, I'm sure they hear about it from their bosses.

 

Lol, I have to say it's pretty amusing if anyone believes this.

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People will not be banned based only on reports, each report will be investigated thoroughly. 

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View PostArtyPromotesDynamicGame, on Aug 01 2016 - 14:27, said:

Also...

 

WG, how did you manage T22 rigging? Oh right, and now you want to talk about rules....

 



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View PostGhostPrime, on Aug 01 2016 - 18:54, said:

 

Yes, The in game TK system will remain unchanged. 

 

Wait a second....

 

So if someone TKs you they could get an hour ban, but if you get frustrated and react to that TK with a comment you could end up being perma banned...

 

Yea, great system...NOT. 



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View PostTolos, on Aug 01 2016 - 19:29, said:

I like the ingame stuff. But until you get better forum moderators the forum thing is kinda stupid. 

 

Hell I got a 3 day RO for a post I made a YEAR ago. For asking " it seems you cant ask a legitimate question "....

 

People on the forums report for the most idiotic things sometimes and until the mods can use common sense and understand the word context, all you are going to get is a bunch of people mass reporting posts just to get people banned.

 

I agree. I got permabanned because I hurt feelings of baddies that (probably) reported me en masse. I got autobanned for "spamming". Had to wait about week till support figured out that problem.

Lethalhavoc #57 Posted Aug 01 2016 - 20:37

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All I can say is, have some faith guys.

 



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It is ridiculous when they go back through your post months, or in that guys case years and issue out penalties. End of last year I got banned for a few post that were made in early 2015. I think if you went 6 - 8 months without noticing a violation, it's too late to enforce it.

 

View PostLethalhavoc, on Aug 01 2016 - 14:37, said:

All I can say is, have some faith guys.

 

 

Are you new to Wargaming?


Edited by dityboycom, Aug 01 2016 - 20:38.


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View PostLethalhavoc, on Aug 01 2016 - 11:32, said:

WG employee's don't have a free hand to do what ever they want, they all answer to supervisors, just like any other company.

If a mod(s) unjustly sanction a player, I'm sure they hear about it from their bosses.

 

Come on Lethal, you know better than this....

 

And don't get me wrong, I'm all for the rules being enforced, I just have 0 faith that the current mods are even remotely capable of being consistent and unbiased.



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View PostLethalhavoc, on Aug 01 2016 - 19:23, said:

 

No, that's not likely.

Spam reporting has never led to a ban (if there was no just cause) to the best of my knowledge, so why would that change now?

 

Not on the NA server it hasnt, but on the EU and RU server it happens.




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