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RC_1140 #41 Posted Apr 15 2018 - 06:07

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View PostStrike_Witch_Tomoko, on Aug 19 2016 - 21:02, said:

in the case of KV-5.  the r2d2 is needed as that thing is REALLY armored...and keep in mind tier 6 and 7s fight it.  and it has prem MM

 

removing the r2d2 weakspot would lead to the removal of its prem mm with no buff to the gun or anything

thats how good its armor is

Actually the KV-5 has pretty meh armor compared to some of the newer tanks. Ignoring the hatches/r2d2 you need 180 pen for the front, 150 for the side, and a massive 92 for the rear. So not really an issue for most t6's, a bunch can pen the front with gold and all of them can pen the rear with ap.

 

 

As for the hatch thing, 268v4 says no. The main front "weak spot" is the hatch thing on top.



Ich_bin_Hass #42 Posted Apr 15 2018 - 07:19

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NEVER going to happen. That would make all other tanks like the impossible to hit Russian commanders and loaders hatches ! NEVER going to happen.



EmperorJuliusCaesar #43 Posted Apr 15 2018 - 13:48

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Last thing we need is fewer weak points which leads to more prem ammo spam.  Current system in good imo.

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View Post_Gungrave_, on Aug 20 2016 - 13:22, said:

umm...no as you would break the balance for most of the game

 

Imagine fighting the british AT casemate line with none of those "tophat" hatches or trying to fight a hull down american high tier vehicle I mean the M103 and E5 would become godlike well the E5 more so than it already is.

 

They already made the British ones pretty much undamagable from the front.


The American heavies you can now pen across the turret front/top edge itself and don't even need to hit the cmdr hatch anymore, add that to the top and bottom plate being butter the American tanks won't ever get rated high anymore.  Besides the E5 is now super overmatched by pretty much every tank around and you can hit the massive pimple from across the screen as it has basically ZERO armor.



Strike_Witch_Tomoko #45 Posted Apr 15 2018 - 14:49

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View PostRC_1140, on Apr 14 2018 - 22:07, said:

Actually the KV-5 has pretty meh armor compared to some of the newer tanks. Ignoring the hatches/r2d2 you need 180 pen for the front, 150 for the side, and a massive 92 for the rear. So not really an issue for most t6's, a bunch can pen the front with gold and all of them can pen the rear with ap.

 

 

As for the hatch thing, 268v4 says no. The main front "weak spot" is the hatch thing on top.

 

uh dude...look at the date i made this post

 

in august....2016

 

most of the tanks being used back then were barely pushing 180

 

IS-6 was popular those days...with 175

Super p 170

T-44 175

 

etc

 

don't necro threads

 

 

and my point is still valid.  prem MM, it sees tier 6 and 7s.  vast majority of which don't have even close to 170. 

 

 



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View PostStrike_Witch_Tomoko, on Apr 15 2018 - 05:49, said:

 

uh dude...look at the date i made this post

 

in august....2016

 

most of the tanks being used back then were barely pushing 180

 

IS-6 was popular those days...with 175

Super p 170

T-44 175

 

etc

 

don't necro threads

 

 

and my point is still valid.  prem MM, it sees tier 6 and 7s.  vast majority of which don't have even close to 170. 

 

 

 

Oops, this was in the recent post area so I assumed it was new and didn't look at the dates. But even so, most t8's with normal mm could pen it frontally with ap, even the pershing with 180 would have a 50% chance (minus hatches of course). And most 7's could pen the side easily. t6 would need to use gold for the most part but then its easy to pen the side and possible to pen the front. Also when this was posted Japanese heavies were in the game, and the O-Ho has better armor. And it can one shot t6's. Its armor seems weak now but back then it wasn't exactly impenetrable. 

Strike_Witch_Tomoko #47 Posted Apr 16 2018 - 02:15

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View PostRC_1140, on Apr 15 2018 - 11:21, said:

 

Oops, this was in the recent post area so I assumed it was new and didn't look at the dates. But even so, most t8's with normal mm could pen it frontally with ap, even the pershing with 180 would have a 50% chance (minus hatches of course). And most 7's could pen the side easily. t6 would need to use gold for the most part but then its easy to pen the side and possible to pen the front. Also when this was posted Japanese heavies were in the game, and the O-Ho has better armor. And it can one shot t6's. Its armor seems weak now but back then it wasn't exactly impenetrable. 

 

to be fair,  the difficulty scale from lv 6 to 8.  is still OP as hell

feels like we skipped a tier




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