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Praematura #41 Posted Sep 13 2016 - 16:53

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View PostDeputy276, on Sep 13 2016 - 15:44, said:

You answered your own rant. You will NEVER see "quality game play" in pub matches. Just accept that and move on. I mean think about the variety of players playing in pub matches. Many can barely reach the keyboard and are sitting on a phone book to play. Many are old (like me) and suffer from all kinds of physical ailments that affect using the keyboard. When/if you get old, you will know what I am talking about. The majority of players don't even know there is a forum or don't even know they aren't playing well. Or they have had negative experiences from the forum and won't ever come back. Many more couldn't care less if they are playing well or not. 

 

I've been grinding the St Emil to get to the Rhm. I have a hard time working up sympathy for you, considering I am playing what many consider the worst tank in the game. Even then, I still had a pretty good day yesterday. Just play clan battles, or if you insist on inflicting pub play on yourself, play in platoons. Even better, forgetabout stats. Much of the bad game play in WOT are people trying too hard to boost their stats and making dumb decisions in the process.

Remember...WOT is not some kind of life's mission. It's just a way to goof around for a few hours. Or more plainly, it's only a game. :) 

 

Hehe my trigger finger is shot, so I know where your coming from. This is way off topic, but you can buy special gloves to reduce joint pain so one can engage in the serious business of online games. :) Gloves should be here so I'll keep you old farts posted. Hehe

strYker555 #42 Posted Sep 13 2016 - 17:16

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SpitYoYoMafia #43 Posted Sep 13 2016 - 18:21

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View Postmonty50000, on Sep 13 2016 - 06:14, said:

 

You're complaining about your (average, because random) teams being bad and your proposed solution is to give you even worse (adjusted by your ELO/PR/WR whatever) teams?

 

You have completely failed to understand what an Elo system does and is for. It is so that you can rise to your own skill level and play against those of your skill level. When I played League I literally went from B3 to S2 in 2 days and from S4 to G5 in a day. This is what an elo system does.

ThisGameIsHorribleLOL #44 Posted Sep 13 2016 - 18:25

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teams are [edited]

game is dead

 

deal with it. not getting better



JohnnyReroll #45 Posted Sep 13 2016 - 19:25

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op, I feel your pain man.  Skill based mm is the solution.  But not 'leagues' or 'brackets'.  All skill based mm needs to be is an equal number of great/good/OK/bad players on each team.  It's an easy fix.

BurglarOfBanff_ff #46 Posted Sep 13 2016 - 19:35

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What I've never understood is that if the player base is getting worse, shouldn't the decent players be getting more wins?  If everyone was 45% and you were 55%, you'd have the best team every time.

Digital_Malamute #47 Posted Sep 13 2016 - 19:37

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View PostGomez_Adams, on Sep 13 2016 - 05:45, said:

Isn't this the part where somebody says, "The only common denominator on all those teams is you."?

 

Was thinking the same thing.

Flarvin #48 Posted Sep 13 2016 - 19:39

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View PostBurglarOfBanff_ff, on Sep 13 2016 - 13:35, said:

What I've never understood is that if the player base is getting worse, shouldn't the decent players be getting more wins?  If everyone was 45% and you were 55%, you'd have the best team every time.

 

This. 

 

Worse playerbase means your skill is higher in relation. 



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View PostBurglarOfBanff_ff, on Sep 13 2016 - 18:35, said:

What I've never understood is that if the player base is getting worse, shouldn't the decent players be getting more wins?  If everyone was 45% and you were 55%, you'd have the best team every time.

 

this has been addressed many times. no. that's not how this works

Flarvin #50 Posted Sep 13 2016 - 20:06

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View PostNehalim, on Sep 13 2016 - 13:53, said:

 

this has been addressed many times. no. that's not how this works

 

Yes that is how it would work. 

 

If everyone got worse, then you would have gotten better in relation. Pretty basic. 



jdubthegreat #51 Posted Sep 13 2016 - 20:08

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View PostFlarvin, on Sep 13 2016 - 11:06, said:

 

Yes that is how it would work. 

 

If everyone got worse, then you would have gotten better in relation. Pretty basic. 

 

Uhm, so if everyone on the team is bad, it helps good players on that team rather than hurts them?  Not following your logic here.

Flarvin #52 Posted Sep 13 2016 - 20:09

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View Postjdubthegreat, on Sep 13 2016 - 14:08, said:

 

Uhm, so if everyone on the team is bad, it helps good players rather than hurt them?  Not following your logic here.

 

If the play base is worse, then both teams would be effected. Not just that good players team. 



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View PostFlarvin, on Sep 13 2016 - 11:09, said:

 

If the play base is worse, then both teams would be effected. Not just that good players team. 

 

Except the teams are RNGed and in this game one death could be the end of the game. So having more bad players in top tier tanks would not help or having bads in lights. In fact, a lot of games are literally determined by who has the better light tanks.

 

I could carry all day in a 5 v 5 moba environment, but you aren't going to be having that much of an impact in a 15 v 15 scenario and having one life bar to boot.


Edited by _Ninjax_, Sep 13 2016 - 20:15.


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View Post_Ninjax_, on Sep 13 2016 - 14:14, said:

 

Except the teams are RNGed and in this game one death could be the end of the game. So having more bad players in top tier tanks would not help or having bads in lights. In fact, a lot of games are literally determined by who has the better light tanks.

 

I could carry all day in a 5 v 5 moba environment, but you aren't going to be having that much of an impact in a 15 v 15 scenario and having one life bar to boot.

 

Having more bad players at any tier, means both teams will get more bad players over time. Not just yours. 

 

In fact, it's more likely the bad players will be on the other team. Due to 15 spots to fill vs the only 14 on your team. And more bad players on the enemy team, the easier it is to carry. 



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So we should all be happy the baddies are multiplying.  Besides adding enjoyment to the game, it auto-raises any good player's stats.  Boy, I have been looking at this all wrong.

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View PostFlarvin, on Sep 13 2016 - 11:19, said:

 

Having more bad players at any tier, means both teams will get more bad players over time. Not just yours. 

 

In fact, it's more likely the bad players will be on the other team. Due to 15 spots to fill vs the only 14 on your team. And more bad players on the enemy team, the easier it is to carry. 

 

And if the other team doesn't get the bad players?

Flarvin #57 Posted Sep 13 2016 - 20:43

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View Postjdubthegreat, on Sep 13 2016 - 14:21, said:

So we should all be happy the baddies are multiplying.  Besides adding enjoyment to the game, it auto-raises any good player's stats.  Boy, I have been looking at this all wrong.

 

No different than seal clubbing. But instead of having to drop down to low tiers to club. The seals are coming to you. 



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View PostWorland, on Sep 13 2016 - 07:23, said:

Almost every battle I've been in since I got back has featured a lemming train. Doesn't even seem to matter what tier I play, 4 or 9, it's all lemming trains. Not just my team, both teams.

I need to quit trying to guard the open flank by myself. Never works out well. I need to just follow the lemmings and enjoy the ride.

 

Yeah, never try to hold a flank solo, your only hope is to follow the lemmings and try to overwhelm that flank faster than they overwhelm your undefended flank.  Sometimes it works.



Deputy276 #59 Posted Sep 13 2016 - 21:05

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View PostPraematura, on Sep 13 2016 - 09:53, said:

 

Hehe my trigger finger is shot, so I know where your coming from. This is way off topic, but you can buy special gloves to reduce joint pain so one can engage in the serious business of online games. :) Gloves should be here so I'll keep you old farts posted. Hehe

 

More OT....I have the "copper gloves". Got them at Walgreens. Helps a little in the Winter to keep my hands warm. But I have diabetic neuropathy in hands and feet. I take meds for it, but sometimes they work and more often they don't. So I just have to "grind through the pain" along with grinding FOR the tank ;)

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View Postdityboycom, on Sep 13 2016 - 04:49, said:

 

Lets RIDE!

 






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