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Poll: Best tier 9 med (137 members have cast votes)

Which t9 med is best all around in your opinion?

  1. M46 Patton (52 votes [37.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 37.96%

  2. Panther II (5 votes [3.65%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.65%

  3. T-54 (74 votes [54.01%])

    Percentage of vote: 54.01%

  4. E-50 (6 votes [4.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.38%

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LifeSWiFTone #1 Posted Aug 02 2011 - 19:03

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Please explain why you believe the tank you voted for is the best.

I personally have no idea which is the best, but it seems the Patton does well from what I've seen in random matches. I've only driven the P2 though so I can't speak for the others.

Farva1 #2 Posted Aug 02 2011 - 19:09

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View PostLifeSWiFTone, on Aug 02 2011 - 19:03, said:

Please explain why you believe the tank you voted for is the best.

I personally have no idea which is the best, but it seems the Patton does well from what I've seen in random matches. I've only driven the P2 though so I can't speak for the others.


They all do well but the T-54 is the best by far in that its faster, more agile, harder to hit and better at brawling straight up.  I still love my patton and just recently got the Panther II.  Just because a tank is better though doesnt mean you will preform better in it.

Watch #3 Posted Aug 02 2011 - 19:17

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This is just a snipit from a conversation I had with someone from ANOTHER one of these threads that pop up. I clearly determine that the T-54 is better then the Patton. Even though I have never driven either it is clear on paper which tank is better.

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when it comes down to it I find the T-54 to be superior to the Patton in performance stats. When pared with the same skill, crew, equipment; Aside from the slight advantage to damage and rate of fire. The T-54 makes up for it with a huge advantage to the maneuverability and overall speed and armor of the vehicle

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Each tank has a fast RoF gun with a good Acc rating and mid range Pen and Dam ratings. They also have a High Pen and Dam rating gun with a slower RoF and less Acc rating. This leads me to believe that the tank with the higher maneuverability and speed will out preform. Not only does the T-54 have a higher hull/turret armor but it's also faster, turns harder, and has the ability use what ever gun style you prefer. To conclude my earlier statement we can see why; The T-54 beats the Patton out right with its lower profile, faster top and turning speeds, and armaments.

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EggMcMuffin #4 Posted Aug 02 2011 - 19:28

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Seems to me the M46 is the best combination of DPS, view range, mobility, and a tough turret armor.
oh and gun depression, which T-54 no have

Communism #5 Posted Aug 02 2011 - 19:43

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E-50

Highest HP, Highest Speed, Highest Acceleration, Highest Frontal Armor, Highest Side Armor, Highest Rear Armor, Best Gun Accuracy, Best Gun Aiming Time, About Equal Spread From Movement to Patton, Less Raw DPS than Patton, Tied for highest alpha with Patton, Impenetrable mantlet that covers 50% of the hittable front turret. Better other turret armor values than Patton. Unnerfed glacis armor (compared to T-54's armor modifier nerf at end of beta) with same slope as T-54 and with superior thickness and slope of lower glacis. Good Gun Depression, far greater than T-54, almost as good as Patton's. Best ramming tank in the game with 64 tons @ 60 kph.

barefaceben #6 Posted Aug 02 2011 - 20:21

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I'd have to put the patton at #1, with the T-54 very close behind.  The panther II comes in 3rd.  In a straight up brawl, a T-54 will beat a patton more often than not, but it is very close.  Both will almost always win against a Panther II unless it turns a ranged fight.  In high tier battles, there are limited scouts and teams often win or lose on open maps based on a few people scouting.  The patton with its awesome view range edges out the T-54, which is more mobile.  

The Panther II can be more effective in certain situations (sort of like the Tiger as a tier 7 heavy), but usually gets the short end of the stick.  Being a less effective scout puts it at a significant disadvantage.

LifeSWiFTone #7 Posted Aug 02 2011 - 21:53

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Thanks for all the feedback guys http://forum.worldof...Smile_great.gif

EggMcMuffin #8 Posted Aug 02 2011 - 22:01

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Both will almost always win against a Panther II unless it turns a ranged fight.

That is the thing though
T-54 can just aim at Panther II from long range and not worry, usually penetrate.
Panther II must precisely hit lower hull , because it hits upper hull or turret = bounce.

So the irony of ironies is that 1 v 1 the T-54 > Panther II at range

INTRUDER76 #9 Posted Aug 04 2011 - 05:59

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Both the Patton & T-54 are marvelous mediums but T-54 is more agile and very fast a very good flanker tank which can easily go in and go out in a tight situation.

BobFromMarketing #10 Posted Aug 04 2011 - 06:38

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The Patton is my choice but really the tanks are suited to different playstyles. If you want a high torque brawler you want the T-54, if you want an high speed sniping tank thats basically shooting a laser and the best depression out of the tier 9 mediums you want the Patton.

In short

T-54:
Better armor
Faster Acceleration
Bouncier
Better in close quarters

Patton:
Longer sight range
Better accuracy
Best Damage Per Minute of Tier 9 Mediums
Better gun depression

Whichever one of those appeals to you. Pick it.  Don't pick one becuase it's "The best".  Just don't pick the Panther II.

JDCollie #11 Posted Aug 04 2011 - 07:59

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From a completely non-statistical, layman's point of view, I have seen comparatively few T-54s, but the ones I have seen... Holy crap, those bastards come out of NOWHERE.

I think what it comes down to is that the Patton is better than the T-54 at doing what Tier 9 heavies already do best, while the T-54 does better what tier 9 heavies simply can't do.

LifeSWiFTone #12 Posted Aug 04 2011 - 16:20

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View PostBobFromMarketing, on Aug 04 2011 - 06:38, said:

The Patton is my choice but really the tanks are suited to different playstyles. If you want a high torque brawler you want the T-54, if you want an high speed sniping tank thats basically shooting a laser and the best depression out of the tier 9 mediums you want the Patton.

In short

T-54:
Better armor
Faster Acceleration
Bouncier
Better in close quarters

Patton:
Longer sight range
Better accuracy
Best Damage Per Minute of Tier 9 Mediums
Better gun depression

Whichever one of those appeals to you. Pick it.  Don't pick one becuase it's "The best".  Just don't pick the Panther II.

Lol i went for it first o_0

Grey_ #13 Posted Aug 05 2011 - 19:53

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I see it as this. If you want a tier 9 tank that has a good chance of breaking through Opfor and lighting up most everything on their side of the map and killing one or two of their artillery pieces, then you want a T-54.

But if you want a tier 9 medium that can stand at a distance a deal damage then you really should have gone down any of the heavy tank lines. Their drivers may love them, and I'm sure they may be fun to drive, but the Panther II and the Patton just can't soak up the damage or repair tracks as quick as their T-54 counterpart.

LinkNZ #14 Posted Aug 07 2011 - 07:29

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Biased fanboy and driver but I'd say the Patton after having played all 3.

Played about 30 games on the T-54 on the test server and I absolutely hated it. Couldn't stand the aim time and the terrible accuracy on the move. What's the point in having all that speed and maneuverability if you can't hit a barn door at 50 yards?

Alakarr #15 Posted Aug 07 2011 - 08:54

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I have to give my vote to the M46. I haven't driven the T-54 or Panther II, but have fought plenty of them, and in a one on one fight, I come out on top about 80% of the time. Against a T-54, the longer view range and on the move accuracy give me a huge edge. I can usually get two solid shots on a T-54 before they can return fire with a reasonable chance to hit me (unless they stop to shoot). At that point the T-54 simply can't put out enough damage fast enough to win.

Minds_Eye #16 Posted Aug 08 2011 - 05:22

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View PostBobFromMarketing, on Aug 04 2011 - 06:38, said:

The Patton is my choice but really the tanks are suited to different playstyles. If you want a high torque brawler you want the T-54, if you want an high speed sniping tank thats basically shooting a laser and the best depression out of the tier 9 mediums you want the Patton.

In short

T-54:
Better armor
Faster Acceleration
Bouncier
Better in close quarters

Patton:
Longer sight range
Better accuracy
Best Damage Per Minute of Tier 9 Mediums
Better gun depression

Whichever one of those appeals to you. Pick it.  Don't pick one becuase it's "The best".  Just don't pick the Panther II.

Wait, what? The Patton does have great aim time, but they are both accurate on the move, and the T54 can zoom into .34m @100 while the Patton only goes to .37.


Anyways, I myself choose the Patton, because I like to exploit the sky-high dpm, 7.7 reload time with 390 damage.

linuss #17 Posted Aug 08 2011 - 14:13

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Without a doubt the T54 is 'better'.


However, the average T9 American medium driver is better than the average T9 Russian medium driver, due to having to compensate for the obvious bias.

The_Dutch_Oven #18 Posted Aug 08 2011 - 23:11

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IMO, the T-54 needs a nerf, badly. i have had so much experience on my patton that i now immediatly call for backup when a T-54 is spotted. And the P2 never stood a chance gainst the other 2 meds.

EDIT: now that thing have changed (this post being in nov.), i think that the 3 T9 meds are very well balanced.