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Shanzival #41 Posted Oct 25 2016 - 14:47

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Such a brutal burn you needed to post it twice

CapturedJoe #42 Posted Oct 25 2016 - 18:01

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View Postshredo, on Oct 24 2016 - 17:44, said:

yea american equipment is legendary for its reliability.

ESPECIALLY THE M16! xD xD xD

 

The M16 has nothing to do with WW2 American AFVs, which were in fact renowned for their reliability and ease of maintenance, even with Soviet tankers.

Zinegata #43 Posted Oct 26 2016 - 01:38

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I'm honestly tempted to note that reliability may have way more to do with operator training than the machines itself. 

zloykrolik #44 Posted Oct 26 2016 - 02:26

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True, but the machines have to have a basic degree of mechanical soundness as well. The best trained crew might have been able to extend the mean time between failure on the Panther's final drive, but it still was a POS.

Anlushac11 #45 Posted Oct 26 2016 - 14:28

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View Postzloykrolik, on Oct 25 2016 - 20:26, said:

True, but the machines have to have a basic degree of mechanical soundness as well. The best trained crew might have been able to extend the mean time between failure on the Panther's final drive, but it still was a POS.

 

And another Commieboo cant resist taking another cheap shot at the Panther tank which has nothing to do with this thread.

Blackhorse_Six_ #46 Posted Oct 26 2016 - 21:08

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View PostAnlushac11, on Oct 26 2016 - 08:28, said:

And another Commieboo cant resist taking another cheap shot at the Panther tank which has nothing to do with this thread.

 

Not quite ... He was an A3 tanker on the IGB when you were off doing whatever ... wherever else you were doing it ...

 

A might unusual for you to make a comment like that ...



Zinegata #47 Posted Oct 27 2016 - 00:48

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View PostAnlushac11, on Oct 26 2016 - 21:28, said:

 

And another Commieboo cant resist taking another cheap shot at the Panther tank which has nothing to do with this thread.

 

Yeah, any objective commentator on the Panther isn't going to be singing any praises for its reliability - most especially the final drive. Indeed if you want your Panther to be well-maintained the final drive issues should basically reduce its road march speed to less than 30 kph - any higher and breakdown is a real issue.

Edited by Zinegata, Oct 27 2016 - 00:55.


Donward #48 Posted Oct 27 2016 - 01:15

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View PostAnlushac11, on Oct 26 2016 - 05:28, said:

 

And another Commieboo cant resist taking another cheap shot at the Panther tank which has nothing to do with this thread.

 

Dude. Learn to spell comieboo correctly. Or don't do it at all.

 

 



zloykrolik #49 Posted Oct 27 2016 - 03:00

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>True, but the machines have to have a basic degree of mechanical soundness as well. The best trained crew might have been able to extend the mean time between failure on the Panther's final drive, but it still was a POS. had serious reliability issues.

 

>And another Commieboo cant resist taking another cheap shot at the Panther tank which has nothing to do with this thread.

 

 

Better? :sceptic:

 


Edited by zloykrolik, Oct 27 2016 - 03:00.


Anlushac11 #50 Posted Nov 11 2016 - 15:47

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View Postzloykrolik, on Oct 26 2016 - 21:00, said:

>True, but the machines have to have a basic degree of mechanical soundness as well. The best trained crew might have been able to extend the mean time between failure on the Panther's final drive, but it still was a POS. had serious reliability issues.

 

>And another Commieboo cant resist taking another cheap shot at the Panther tank which has nothing to do with this thread.

 

 

Better? :sceptic:

 

 

yeah, I had a Snickers bar.

 

My point was it seems you cant make a comment on the forums without someone starting on Panther. We get it...it had problems. There have been multiple threads just on Panther so it doesnt really need to be dragged into other threads like discussing tank destroyers.


Edited by Anlushac11, Nov 11 2016 - 15:56.


Anlushac11 #51 Posted Nov 11 2016 - 15:50

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Please delete.

Edited by Anlushac11, Nov 11 2016 - 19:34.


ArcherII #52 Posted Nov 17 2016 - 19:00

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View PostBlackhorse_Six_, on Oct 26 2016 - 15:08, said:

 

Not quite ... He was an A3 tanker on the IGB when you were off doing whatever ... wherever else you were doing it ...

 

Now there's a term I haven't heard in a bit.... The "IGB".    :)

The_Chieftain #53 Posted Nov 17 2016 - 19:09

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Took me a second, pre-dates me.

ProfessionalFinn #54 Posted Nov 17 2016 - 21:33

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Great stuff....feed us more!  To my fellow Finns: Terve!

Burning_Haggis #55 Posted Nov 18 2016 - 00:39

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Serious reliability issues.   Yep, that describes every German car I have owned.   It is easy to believe the Panther suffered from the same disease... after all... it is genetic

zloykrolik #56 Posted Nov 19 2016 - 04:22

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View PostThe_Chieftain, on Nov 17 2016 - 10:09, said:

Took me a second, pre-dates me.

 

Yep, we be old.

Blackhorse_Three_ #57 Posted Nov 19 2016 - 04:30

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View Postzloykrolik, on Nov 18 2016 - 22:22, said:

Yep, we be old.

 

Yep

 

That used to be a good thing - old and wise ...



FrozenKemp #58 Posted Nov 19 2016 - 06:41

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Ok, sorry, but what was the IGB? 

Blackhorse_Six_ #59 Posted Nov 19 2016 - 07:25

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View PostFrozenKemp, on Nov 19 2016 - 00:41, said:

Ok, sorry, but what was the IGB? 

 

Inner German Border ...

 

The physical border between East and West Germany from 1945 to 1990 (although it began to disintegrate in mid-late 1989).

 

It ran the entire length of Germany, north to south, and the communist border ran further south to Yugoslavia.

 

Literally, the Iron Curtain

 

Each side of the actual border line had a rough 1 kilometer no-go zone for combat vehicles, including helicopters, though Soviet attack helicopters were known to "charge" the border in mock gun-runs, breaking-off at the last moment. Most of these incidents occurred along the Czech border.

 

Both sides of the border were lined with watchtowers, observation posts, and tank revetments. The eastern side was fenced, fortified and laid with minefields.

 

And tanks ... Billions and Billions of tanks, unseen ...

 

Watching me watching you ...

 

Those were the days, my friend ...



FrozenKemp #60 Posted Nov 19 2016 - 14:29

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Ahhh thanks Blackhorse.  I knew the Iron Curtain phrase of course, but not the official term.




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