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Kahduu #21 Posted Nov 06 2016 - 06:52

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There you go same old crap.. Yeah we had all major teams that are in the final.. there was a 0 in every group. You can say all you want and we are not saying we are pro players or will ever be. The point is there is no place for those trying to work their way up in this game. And what do you care why would you want to play against clans that are new to this anyway.. To the Wg staff just consider something for your new players and clans that makes the game worth doing. Being seal clubed over and over is pointless. And while you give them free gold we are paying the bills with accounts with tons of cash invested to try and get a somewhat competitive chance. By the way i can reroll to and join a clan like that and have pretty colors. You don't get that playing pubs buddy.

Kahduu #22 Posted Nov 06 2016 - 06:59

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View Post_La_Cucaracha_Azul_, on Nov 06 2016 - 01:27, said:

 

Why are you complaining about losing to good teams? You lost to everyone, even the other bad teams my dude. If you got 0 points, I don't thinks theres anyway wargaming can make a tournament that you will have a shot of winning no offense. 

 

It's not about winning my friend. It's about some chance at all of winning a game. There were 0's in every group. Why not pair up by player stats some teams.. We do not kid ourselves about alot of these clans they are better players cut and dry. but everyone we faced was 8k plus player rating.. Again this isn't about just us it's about the welfare of the game. I have played mmo's for 20 years.. You can begin to see what kills them and no chance in he.. to even compete will just push players away. Can you honestly tell me that segmenting doesn't make since.. even if a lower clan wins agains like clans they still have to play the tops at teh end.. but they had a chance.

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View PostKahduu, on Nov 06 2016 - 00:59, said:

 

It's not about winning my friend. It's about some chance at all of winning a game. There were 0's in every group. Why not pair up by player stats some teams.. We do not kid ourselves about alot of these clans they are better players cut and dry. but everyone we faced was 8k plus player rating.. Again this isn't about just us it's about the welfare of the game. I have played mmo's for 20 years.. You can begin to see what kills them and no chance in he.. to even compete will just push players away. Can you honestly tell me that segmenting doesn't make since.. even if a lower clan wins agains like clans they still have to play the tops at teh end.. but they had a chance.

 

And instead of complaining to wg to make the teams you play worse so that you can beat them, how about you improve your own team so that you beat them.

The_Dastardly_Canuck_rob #24 Posted Nov 06 2016 - 20:44

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View PostKahduu, on Nov 06 2016 - 00:59, said:

 

It's not about winning my friend. It's about some chance at all of winning a game. There were 0's in every group. Why not pair up by player stats some teams.. We do not kid ourselves about alot of these clans they are better players cut and dry. but everyone we faced was 8k plus player rating.. Again this isn't about just us it's about the welfare of the game. I have played mmo's for 20 years.. You can begin to see what kills them and no chance in he.. to even compete will just push players away. Can you honestly tell me that segmenting doesn't make since.. even if a lower clan wins agains like clans they still have to play the tops at teh end.. but they had a chance.

 

Why don't you try and get gud. 

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View PostKahduu, on Nov 05 2016 - 16:53, said:

Is there any thought to bracketing these toward player rating so some of us newer clans have a snow balls chance to earn something.. Your feeding 10 dominating clans with these. We want to play and have some sort of shot as well. Yeah yeah we know get better. But we can't when we get railed by clans that have built up full crews and tops tanks by WG filling their bellies over and over again.. I mean again the 40 of us that had no shot at all still played we still showed up and hey killed some of them but we want to participate in something with some shot at playing like skilled players.. And again yeah yeah your great. get better we have heard it before. 

 

"Our clan is bad at the game.  Please allow us to only face other bad teams and then reward us for it.  Stop rewarding clans that are good, it's not fair to us because we're bad and it makes us very jealous."

 

"P.S. everyone we faced in the tournament was hacking and using aimbot"



BULBA_Reject_BlueMini #26 Posted Nov 07 2016 - 04:39

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View PostKahduu, on Nov 06 2016 - 00:59, said:

 

It's not about winning my friend. It's about some chance at all of winning a game. There were 0's in every group. Why not pair up by player stats some teams.. We do not kid ourselves about alot of these clans they are better players cut and dry. but everyone we faced was 8k plus player rating.. Again this isn't about just us it's about the welfare of the game. I have played mmo's for 20 years.. You can begin to see what kills them and no chance in he.. to even compete will just push players away. Can you honestly tell me that segmenting doesn't make since.. even if a lower clan wins agains like clans they still have to play the tops at teh end.. but they had a chance.

You clearly are misinterpreting something or just dont even comprehend what it is you want. You want to face weaker teams so that you have a chance of winning. Who exactly would this be? In the invitational you didn't play bulba 20 times during the group stages. You played a few top clans, a few mid tier clans, and some weaker clans such as yours. And you still lost to everyone. I don't know where you are going to find these clans that will give you a "chance" at winning. They obviously didn't sign up for this exhibition, so what makes you think they will sign up for another? What even makes you think you will have a chance of winning?

Like, my dude, you just sound mad that other players have improved and joined increasing better clans while you have not. I can assure you 99% of bulba has put actual cash into this game. The difference is that now we have improved to a level where we no longer need to.

 

TLDR: if you want a chance of winning with your clan, make new accounts and countdown into the tutorial



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View PostKahduu, on Nov 06 2016 - 05:59, said:

There were 0's in every group. Why not pair up by player stats some teams.. 

 

 

So what make a bracket of bad clans, let them feel good when they win the losers bracket. Then instantly delete all of that when they move on in the tourney and face a decent clan. Maybe instead of [edited]whining and complaning you take time to actually learn how to play. 

 

We got rekt by Bulba in the final. But there were a few games where the HP pool was close. But just watching Bulba line up all their tanks before a push, and then cycle out HP as they made the push just illustrated how much actual skill they have as players in a competitive format. These are players who spend hours practicing and skrimming and it shows when they play because they just dominate everyone else who they face. Maybe if you and your clan put some time in, did some training and worked on individual and team skill you could actually compete. 



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View PostKahduu, on Nov 05 2016 - 14:53, said:

Is there any thought to bracketing these toward player rating so some of us newer clans have a snow balls chance to earn something.. Your feeding 10 dominating clans with these. We want to play and have some sort of shot as well. Yeah yeah we know get better. But we can't when we get railed by clans that have built up full crews and tops tanks by WG filling their bellies over and over again.. I mean again the 40 of us that had no shot at all still played we still showed up and hey killed some of them but we want to participate in something with some shot at playing like skilled players.. And again yeah yeah your great. get better we have heard it before. 

 

Hi Kahduu,

 

Thanks for your feedback! While I can understand wanting to have different brackets based on some type of rating system, it's unlikely that will happen with the Map Exhibition tournaments. This type of tournament is meant to be hyper-competitive with the winner being the best of the best, and those top clans getting the best prizes. That isn't likely to change for this specific tournament; however that doesn't mean that we can't look at how we incentive the newer clans to participate in a tournament like this. I'm all about feedback and seeing what clans would like to see happen, so feel free to always run ideas by me :)

 

We normally run smaller "Call to Arms" clan tournaments at tiers 8 and 10 every Saturday. While those still aren't based on a rating system, they are small groups which will allow newer clans a change to participate and earn some clan prizes (more clans = more groups which = more chances for prizes!). If at any point we did decide to run some rated clan tournaments, the ratings would likely not be based off player stats - it would be either based off some sort of general clan stat or would be similar to how the Platournaments are rated, where team ratings are based off tournament stats only (potentially only clan tournaments).



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Thank you Dance. I believe you were the only one that understood my point. Yes some sort of system even like the Team play group a, b, c, etc would help this game allow new folks to play in these events which ultimately is best for the game.

To all the guys out there with the comments i already said i knew such as get better, and so on.  i am not asking you to let teams that can't beat the best win. I am not asking for hand outs. I was simply asking will WG Consider a system that would give new clans and players a chance. In all seriousness, congratulations you made it in clans that have the system down and thats great for you. And yes your right we simply do not have it down yet.

But did any of you, which i know we played, even try to offer any suggestion to accomplish your get better comments. If you would like to offer useful constructive criticism we are more than glad to hear it, always.

We're a group of 40 plus guys with 2 clans 167 strong that maybe don't have the fast fingers others do, but we love this game, we love to compete and will be in the matches if we get clubbed of not. I just want this game around in 5 to 10 years with fresh faces and queues as fat as the Eu servers.. And if there are better places for folks to do that, as dance has said, we should be letting people know this instead of telling them to just get better or shut up or your just jealous..

And your damn right i'm jealous i would love to be with one of these top clans.. But i love my guys so we carry on. I meant no offense to anyone i know these clans are great and there players. I only asked for something more then get better as an answer.



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View PostKahduu, on Nov 06 2016 - 00:52, said:

There you go same old crap.. Yeah we had all major teams that are in the final.. there was a 0 in every group. You can say all you want and we are not saying we are pro players or will ever be. The point is there is no place for those trying to work their way up in this game. And what do you care why would you want to play against clans that are new to this anyway.. To the Wg staff just consider something for your new players and clans that makes the game worth doing. Being seal clubed over and over is pointless. And while you give them free gold we are paying the bills with accounts with tons of cash invested to try and get a somewhat competitive chance. By the way i can reroll to and join a clan like that and have pretty colors. You don't get that playing pubs buddy.

 

Dude you played REL2 both days.

 

And more to the point, you didn't even field a complete team of 10s in either match. How in God's name is Wargaming supposed to cater to that? You came to the adult table when you weren't ready, and demanding a kiddie version just to protect your feels is pathetic.







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