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AMX M4 49 OVERPOWERED?


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Poll: AMX M4 49 (123 members have cast votes)

Do you think the AMX M4 49 OVER powered

  1. YES (45 votes [36.59%])

    Percentage of vote: 36.59%

  2. NO (57 votes [46.34%])

    Percentage of vote: 46.34%

  3. Cylon Dave needs to learn how to play (21 votes [17.07%])

    Percentage of vote: 17.07%

You own the AMX M4 49

  1. YES (40 votes [32.52%])

    Percentage of vote: 32.52%

  2. NO (83 votes [67.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 67.48%

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Cylon_Dave #1 Posted Nov 26 2016 - 06:56

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Leave your thoughts in the comments.

 

Personal thoughts- IT IS.

 

I just thought I would post this and see where it went..... 

I know the amx m4 49 is decent.

 

Also I felt like RAGING after running into back to back games with platoons of them when i'm in my tier 7.

 


Edited by Cylon_Dave, Nov 27 2016 - 04:24.


holdmecloserTonyDanza #2 Posted Nov 26 2016 - 07:00

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They are definitely on the slippery part of the slope with these last several premiums

xXCanineXx #3 Posted Nov 26 2016 - 07:02

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The last two premiums have most definitely been better in regards to their performance at tier levels. In the past I feel like WG make a conscious effort to make ground out tanks better in most regards than premium tanks. The IS-6 has low pen. Lowe was slow as hell. CDC and FCM had no armor and required a good player to play them. Now the Patriot and AMX M4 49 are basically foolproof, in that you don't need very much skill at all to play them. However, I don't believe its pay to win as skilled tankers can still take them out relatively easily, and at T10 they're both screwed.

Metagross555 #4 Posted Nov 26 2016 - 07:28

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No one wants to buy garbage prems though... 

SkimpyLawnChair #5 Posted Nov 26 2016 - 07:29

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Is it pay to win? Absolutely no. The AMX M4 49 isn't really all that strong. It's a good tank don't get me wrong. But in all reality in order for a tank to be "pay to win" they should out perform the superior tanks of the tier (ie. IS-3). Does it out perform the IS-3? Does it out perform the vast majority of tier 8 tanks? No. All WG is doing is finally balancing their premium tanks. They're finally making up for years of making crappy unbalanced tier 8 premiums.

 

 

The fact that all of you idiots think that just because the new premium tanks aren't trash compared to the old ones just shows that your guys' IQ isn't all too good.



Jolly33 #6 Posted Nov 26 2016 - 07:40

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View PostSkimpyLawnChair, on Nov 26 2016 - 01:29, said:

Is it pay to win? Absolutely no. The AMX M4 49 isn't really all that strong. It's a good tank don't get me wrong. But in all reality in order for a tank to be "pay to win" they should out perform the superior tanks of the tier (ie. IS-3). Does it out perform the IS-3? Does it out perform the vast majority of tier 8 tanks? No. All WG is doing is finally balancing their premium tanks. They're finally making up for years of making crappy unbalanced tier 8 premiums.

 

 

The fact that all of you idiots think that just because the new premium tanks aren't trash compared to the old ones just shows that your guys' IQ isn't all too good.

 

^^This...spot on!   P2W is the new favorite whine for folks who enjoy whining.

Lord_Hiney #7 Posted Nov 26 2016 - 07:47

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The new prems are good for their tiers, but not p2w at all. A bad player will still do poorly in them, a good player will likely do well in them. They're just not worse than nearly all tech tree tanks of their tiers anymore.

What did you guys think was going to happen after prems stopped having pref MM? They clearly learned from the [edited] prems (M4 improved, sentinel, etc) that needed pref to be competitive but didn't get it, and started releasing prems that could be competitive without it.

Grumpy_blue #8 Posted Nov 26 2016 - 07:53

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It's a good heavy but it sees tier X where it's a 2-shot target for all TD's. I'm sure it does well against tier 6, 7 and some 8's. 

BigRedTankGuy #9 Posted Nov 26 2016 - 08:37

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The AMX M4 49 is far from OP and it's almost getting annoying how people are yelling OP, OP at every prem tank coming out lately. At most you can say its on par with the WG change of making Prems more comparable to their standard counterparts. Yes its a change from their long time standard of making prems gimped over standard tanks but that does not mean the new prems are OP. The AMX M4 49 feels like a cross between a T34 and a Tiger II that also has some added frontal hull armor. That's it, it's not some mega tank. Save the OP chanting for the next Prem to be released and then the next and the next. It's getting ridiculous. If you have a Prem come out that's just meh, people yell its crap, junk, money grab, etc, etc. If it's half way decent then it's OP and broken and it's the end of the world. Calm down guys. Christmas is just around the corner......... more "OP" prems to come I'm sure. Put on the tinfoil hats. People complain if the tanks are meh and they complain if their good. Give it a rest already.

mereelskirata #10 Posted Nov 26 2016 - 09:00

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It's actually bad.

MountainLion1 #11 Posted Nov 26 2016 - 12:02

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It is not pay to win, it is pay to compete. My thoughts are if you pay for a tank it should be able to compete with other tanks of its Tier and type. There is no reason a premium tank should not be able to compete. Just because it competes with other Tier VIII tanks doesn't mean that it competes with Tier X tanks. Most people will grind to Tier X tanks because they are the true tank killers of the game. I don't have a single Tier VIII tank premium or regular that can compete with a Tier X tank. However, a Tier VIII premium should be able to compete with a regular Tier VIII tank. To say the premium should only be for crew training and not to compete just seems to be a waist of time and money to purchase.

Edited by MountainLion1, Nov 26 2016 - 12:05.


jamesdoz #12 Posted Nov 26 2016 - 15:22

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View PostSkimpyLawnChair, on Nov 26 2016 - 01:29, said:

Is it pay to win? Absolutely no. The AMX M4 49 isn't really all that strong. It's a good tank don't get me wrong. But in all reality in order for a tank to be "pay to win" they should out perform the superior tanks of the tier (ie. IS-3). Does it out perform the IS-3? Does it out perform the vast majority of tier 8 tanks? No. All WG is doing is finally balancing their premium tanks. They're finally making up for years of making crappy unbalanced tier 8 premiums.

 

 

The fact that all of you idiots think that just because the new premium tanks aren't trash compared to the old ones just shows that your guys' IQ isn't all too good.

I like how you . compare  it to the other tier 8's..like the boarder line op is3 and that's your argument. As if the Is3 isn't the best tier 8 heavy period or tier 8 for that matter. As.long as its on Parr  with the best it ain't op. Dude pls



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Considering I nailed on for 1,038 damage in my KV-2 I'd say they are far from pay to win.  The AMX M4 49 is only strong from the front unangled.  Everywhere else its weak.

SkimpyLawnChair #14 Posted Nov 26 2016 - 18:43

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View Postjamesdoz, on Nov 26 2016 - 08:22, said:

I like how you . compare  it to the other tier 8's..like the boarder line op is3 and that's your argument. As if the Is3 isn't the best tier 8 heavy period or tier 8 for that matter. As.long as its on Parr  with the best it ain't op. Dude pls

 

Ok, I'll compare it to the T32 aswell. how about another premium, the T34. Even the AMX 50 100, 110, hell I'd even say the Caernarvon is better than it. You literally don't know what you're talking about kid. Mind you that's not that hard to tell when you look at your stats.

diego999 #15 Posted Nov 26 2016 - 19:20

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Cupola is easy to hit from mid distance, UFP isn't very strong, DPM is horrible and ammo is expensive.

 

Is not a bad tank but is not pay2win by any means.



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View PostSkimpyLawnChair, on Nov 26 2016 - 12:43, said:

 

Ok, I'll compare it to the T32 as well. how about another premium, the T 34. Even the AMX 50 100, 110, hell I'd even say the Caernarvon is better than it. You literally don't know what you're talking about kid. Mind you that's not that hard to tell when you look at your stats.

You said  outperforms other tanks of its tier then go on the mention only one Tank The OP Biased-3, Not a good comparison when you can only mention one Tech tree tank

You know they are under 25 when they use the term kid, and no the rest aren't better as good maybe but not out right better, Kid Smh,

Edited by jamesdoz, Nov 26 2016 - 21:45.


An_Innocent_Bystander #17 Posted Nov 27 2016 - 03:24

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It has decent frontal armor but it's EASILY penned by anyone with half a brain. Meh mobility, low HP, meh gun handling, meh DPM, meh accuracy. It has good gun depression. Congrats you have a poor tank package with a mediocre gun and mediocre mobility that can point the gun down. Wow P2W confirmed. Learn to play better bud...

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Both the T65E5 and this new one are pushing the envelope. I don't know what their obvious weakness is like ALL the other premium heavies.

 

Edit: so if these are competitive and not OP when are they going to make all the other gimped premiums 'competitive'?



Insecure_Roos178 #19 Posted Nov 27 2016 - 04:07

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Is it pay to win? Strictly, no. But, it is much better than pretty much every heavy tank in the game. Only the 50 100 and the IS3s can ACTUALLY compete with this thing in most battles (oh, and that new T26E5), in my opinion., The only way any other heavy can win is flanking it. GL flanking in the current map meta though. Or prem rounds. The cupola is a weak point, but with -10 of depression, you can hide it really easily. And the tank can snap fairly well.

Edited by Insecure_Roos178, Nov 27 2016 - 04:08.


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View PostSickSix, on Nov 27 2016 - 04:03, said:

Both the T65E5 and this new one are pushing the envelope. I don't know what their obvious weakness is like ALL the other premium heavies.

 

Edit: so if these are competitive and not OP when are they going to make all the other gimped premiums 'competitive'?

The T26E5 is OP. It's a T8 E5 exactly as the name might suggest. However the M4 49 is far from it. And tbh it's one of the worst T8 prem heavies for how the speed of the tank makes it play. If it has FCM speed it could play a bit more flexible but it's just average so it's a soft tank that still plays as a heavy.






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