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clarkgr #1 Posted Dec 29 2016 - 09:30

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Hello all, as I am now old enough I am going to be joining the United States Army, and for my entire life I have been wanting to be a tanker (dont know which aspect yet, I just want to be in a tank). So my question is, is there a height restriction? Currently I am nearing 6' 3". And if I am passed the restricted height requirement, is there any way I might be able to bypass it?

Gravtech #2 Posted Dec 29 2016 - 09:45

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practice poor posture to shorten yourself in a chair. I only know of ways people have attempted to get taller, never really heard of ways to become shorter without super expensive surgery in a country with low safety standards

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http://forum.worldof...t-restrictions/

kebab6597 #4 Posted Dec 29 2016 - 09:48

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I have no idea about height restrictions in the American tanks but I was in The Household Cavalry for many years on the armoured side of the regiment we had Chieftain/Challenger and CVR(T) Scorpions/Scimitars and our height restriction was a minimum of 5 ft 9" so most of our lads where over 6ft some as tall as 6ft 9" I would imagine American tanks are built with similar internal dimensions as our British tanks but maybe someone with first hand knowledge will give a definite answer 

 

 



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I believe the official limit is 6'2", but there are usually ways around it. I'm 6'5", my workaround was commissioning.

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I guessing it was lower in WW2. I'm 6'1", and had a hell of time trying to button up in the assistant drivers position on a Hellcat a couple weeks ago even with the seat fully down. Also was down fiddling with the Bow Gunner position on an M1A1 Grizzly, and there was no way in heck I could have buttoned up in there. Turret positions in both are a different story. While not exactly comfortable, they aren't smashing your head or tailbone into unyielding steel. 

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View PostThe_Chieftain, on Dec 29 2016 - 07:00, said:

I believe the official limit is 6'2", but there are usually ways around it. I'm 6'5", my workaround was commissioning.

 

I am 6'3", never heard anything about a limit.

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Also, I got to crush a NEW Mercedes in 1972, he was where he was not allowed, tanks had to get by, so...............TC says "Driver, move out".  AWESOME !!


Edited by ToothDecay, Jan 01 2017 - 00:35.


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View PostToothDecay, on Dec 29 2016 - 17:33, said:

Also, I got to crush a NEW Mercedes in 1972, he was were he was not allowed, tanks had to get by, so...............TC says "Driver, move out".  AWESOME !!

 

And the Maneuver Damage Officer went thru the roof?

 

Had to interview everyone in the tank?

 

Separately?



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View Postclarkgr, on Dec 29 2016 - 00:30, said:

Hello all, as I am now old enough I am going to be joining the United States Army, and for my entire life I have been wanting to be a tanker (dont know which aspect yet, I just want to be in a tank). So my question is, is there a height restriction? Currently I am nearing 6' 3". And if I am passed the restricted height requirement, is there any way I might be able to bypass it?

 

(Shakes head)

 

Tell you what, I'll ask a couple of my army buddies and get back to you.



t42592 #10 Posted Dec 30 2016 - 02:13

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As promised, here's the vital information.

Physical Demands Rating: 
 very heavy
Physical Profile Serial #: 
 111121
Qualifications and Prerequisites
ASVAB Minimum Score: 
 90 total in AR+AS+MC
Other Qualifications: 
  • Formal training (completion of MOS 19K course conducted under the auspices of the U.S. Army Armor School) mandatory.
  • Maximum height of 6 feet, 1 inch
  • Normal color vision
  • Correctable vision of 20/20 in one eye and 20/100 in other eye
  • Highest rank an individual may be reclassified into MOS 19K is SGT.



Barncat #11 Posted Dec 30 2016 - 02:13

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We had an LT that was 6'6". Not good for him in combat environment, or any other for that matter. tanks favor the small types.

t42592 #12 Posted Dec 30 2016 - 02:24

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Officers are not crewman, and are considered 19O.  The are managers, more or less, and operate at the management level.  That is why many of the senior officers in my command were very tall, but seldom see the inside of a combat tank.  Below is more information for commissioned officers.

 

Branch: 
 Armor
CMF: 
 19O
MOS Details
Major Duties: 

The role of an Armor Officer is to be a leader in operations specific to the Armor Branch and to lead others in many areas of combat operations. As an Armor Officer, you may either work with tank units that utilize the M1A1 and M1A2 Abrams Tanks, or cavalry units responsible for forward reconnaissance operations.

As an Armor Lieutenant responsibilities include:

  • Leading and controlling the Armor and combined armed forces during land combat.
  • Coordinate employment of Armor Soldiers at all levels of command, from platoon to battalion and higher, in U.S. and multi-national operations.

As an Armor Captain additional responsibilities include:

  • Commanding and controlling Armor units and combined armed companies and company-sized units (200-300 Soldiers).
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  • Develop doctrine, organizations and equipment for unique Armor missions.
  • Instruct Armor skills at service schools and combat training centers.
  • Serve as an Armor advisor to other units, including Army National Guard and U.S. Army Reserve organizations.
Qualifications and Prerequisites
Other Qualifications: 
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The height limit for crew in E25s is 3'7".  

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View PostBlackhorse_Three_, on Dec 29 2016 - 17:43, said:

 

And the Maneuver Damage Officer went thru the roof?

 

Had to interview everyone in the tank?

 

Separately?

 

We were in a restricted zone.  No one got in any trouble for that, never heard anything from on high.

The glass breaking was cool.

The Co. went on it's way on mission..

Be advised, this was when Reforger was going on, a car was Machts Nichts.


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View Postt42592, on Dec 30 2016 - 01:24, said:

Officers are not crewman, and are considered 19O.  The are managers, more or less, and operate at the management level.  That is why many of the senior officers in my command were very tall, but seldom see the inside of a combat tank.  Below is more information for commissioned officers.

 

 

Well.... Kindof.

 

As near as I can tell, Armor and Aviation are the only two branches where the officers are routinely expected to be pulling triggers as a matter of course. Even infantry officers are supposed to be dispatching their squads around, but an armor platoon leader is a part of the squad, as it were. He can't send anyone anywhere, he's along for the ride. Unfortunately, yes, an officer does spend less time on the steel though, because they only have platoon leader, XO, CO time, before being kicked up to Staff. Then, if they're lucky (I haven't been) they may get their own tank as the S-3 or battalion CO, but at that point, it's as much a manner of safe transportation as actually being part of the fight. At least they still get to shoot on the range, I guess.



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I always liked to watch the Bn CO go down range, he had the Master Gunner as his gunner.




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