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sahmlockhart #1 Posted Feb 03 2017 - 05:01

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Dunno why I was expecting to find tier X lights hiding in the test server's darkest, dankest depths... ...

Eh December & January are usually slow months for new stuff because of the holiday season....

Tank Inspector don't work with the Test Server... that's all I could find hidden without TI....



Demonic_Angel_of_Death #2 Posted Feb 03 2017 - 05:21

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Oh you mean I have a 4 man medium for my Strv 74 crew? 

 

I know what I'm buying in the near future...

 

 

Speaking of HD STB-1's, I hope that when they do make it HD they give it the Type 74's Spot Light on the turret...


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Blocksupstudios #3 Posted Feb 03 2017 - 05:31

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What is ridiculous of the Swedish Centurion at the moment, is it has the same speed as normal Centurions, but has better turret armor. If this thing makes it into the game the way it is now, the normal Centurions are gonna need a buff.

Avalon304 #4 Posted Feb 03 2017 - 05:39

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View PostBlocksupstudios, on Feb 02 2017 - 20:31, said:

What is ridiculous of the Swedish Centurion at the moment, is it has the same speed as normal Centurions, but has better turret armor. If this thing makes it into the game the way it is now, the normal Centurions are gonna need a buff.

 

You need to look at that power to weight ratio (~12 hp/ton) before you start saying "same speed" because top speed is one of the most meaningless stats on a tank.

 

EDIT: Also heres the direct comparison of the Strv 81 vs the Mk. 1 Centurion:

 

http://beta.tanks.gg...?cs=centurion-i


Edited by Avalon304, Feb 03 2017 - 05:43.


incomingprojectileofcrap #5 Posted Feb 03 2017 - 06:30

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This makes my T44-100 which i paid $58 for look like complete SH**. Bet you they will probably make it only $40. If they release it the way it is, I'll either buy it, never play tier 8s again, or quit. It will be all be but 1 sided matches, camping, and sniping by the time WG developers realize what's happening to the game.

Avalon304 #6 Posted Feb 03 2017 - 06:42

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View Postincomingprojectileofcrap, on Feb 02 2017 - 21:30, said:

This makes my T44-100 which i paid $58 for look like complete SH**. Bet you they will probably make it only $40. If they release it the way it is, I'll either buy it, never play tier 8s again, or quit. It will be all be but 1 sided matches, camping, and sniping by the time WG developers realize what's happening to the game.

 

lol What? The T-44-100 will be so much more mobile...

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View PostAvalon304, on Feb 02 2017 - 21:42, said:

 

lol What? The T-44-100 will be so much more mobile...

 

it doesn't matter about mobility. Only a decent amount of mobility is required, and it will be decently mobile thats for sure; its got good ground resistances and 12.79 hpt. Thats enough to go 37-40 up and around flat fields. T44100 will do like 49 around flat fields. It's not that much of a difference in speed. What matters is how good the tank is overall and this tank takes it all except top speed and acceleration

Edited by incomingprojectileofcrap, Feb 03 2017 - 07:09.


Avalon304 #8 Posted Feb 03 2017 - 07:37

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View Postincomingprojectileofcrap, on Feb 02 2017 - 22:07, said:

 

it doesn't matter about mobility. Only a decent amount of mobility is required, and it will be decently mobile thats for sure; its got good ground resistances and 12.79 hpt. Thats enough to go 37-40 up and around flat fields. T44100 will do like 49 around flat fields. It's not that much of a difference in speed. What matters is how good the tank is overall and this tank takes it all except top speed and acceleration

 

You have never played a Centurion if you think that this tank will be "decently mobile". ~13 HP/ton is terrible. The terrain resists are mediocre at best. And you wont reach 40, let alone 50 unless youre on a perfectly flat field or going off a cliff.

 

Let me put that power to weight ratio into context for you: The only tier 8 medium tank in 9.17.1 with a worse power to weight ratio is the T26E4 Super Pershing.

 

If you think the Strv 81 is going to be better than a way more mobile T-44-100 youre crazy.



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View PostAvalon304, on Feb 02 2017 - 22:37, said:

 

You have never played a Centurion if you think that this tank will be "decently mobile". ~13 HP/ton is terrible. The terrain resists are mediocre at best. And you wont reach 40, let alone 50 unless youre on a perfectly flat field or going off a cliff.

 

Let me put that power to weight ratio into context for you: The only tier 8 medium tank in 9.17.1 with a worse power to weight ratio is the T26E4 Super Pershing.

 

If you think the Strv 81 is going to be better than a way more mobile T-44-100 youre crazy.

 

I guess we will have to see when it comes out then; thats if it still has the same stats its got now or better. Pretty sure the strv 81 will be way better; last i checked the T44100, it cant pen [edited], is costly (the tank itself and prem rounds), has no armor, and is SH**. Strv will have everything T44-100 doesn't have except its maneuverability. In these times of bad MM, I'd rather have the Strv than this bull because it can at least rely on itself to do any damage instead of the crapthe T44100 has to do decent damage in unbalanced MM.

Edited by incomingprojectileofcrap, Feb 03 2017 - 08:28.


Avalon304 #10 Posted Feb 03 2017 - 08:21

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View Postincomingprojectileofcrap, on Feb 02 2017 - 23:16, said:

 

I guess we will have to see when it comes out then; thats if it still has the same stats its got now or better

 

If it has the same stats, it will be a worse Centurion Mk. 1, which means your T-44-100 will be way better than it. If things change, then they change, but as it is now? Its really just a worse Centurion.

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View Postincomingprojectileofcrap, on Feb 03 2017 - 06:30, said:

This makes my T44-100 which i paid $58 for look like complete SH**. Bet you they will probably make it only $40. If they release it the way it is, I'll either buy it, never play tier 8s again, or quit. It will be all be but 1 sided matches, camping, and sniping by the time WG developers realize what's happening to the game.

You paid for your t44-100? Lol



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View PostFLK4UK, on May 11 2017 - 13:20, said:

You paid for your t44-100? Lol

 

I got a pretty good return on the deal. I got I think 3000 gold and the tank with the $58 I paid. I needed a prem tank for the russian medium line and I decided to get this for some reason. But still a lot to complain about. Nothing more aggravating than this garbage.

Edited by incomingprojectileofcrap, May 31 2017 - 05:57.


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Is it just me, and I have mentioned this before in another Thread, but does that Turret Armor look similar to the Pre HD Centurion Armor.....      I don't recall the specific Numbers as I wasn't that far up the Line back then that it was a Concern....

 

But now that I am on Both Lines, the Brit's at Tier 8 and the Swede Tanks at Tier 6, I wouldn't mind putting it in my Garage....      I like the Centurion, do better in my 4202 even though it's the same Crew, and having Similar Tanks just helps me to get better at them.....

 

I know I'm a tad Late to the Thread, but Life has a way of Interupting things...       lol



Mikosah #14 Posted Jun 22 2017 - 21:24

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I'll call it a fair trade that the Centurion 1 gets the gimped turret while the Strv 81 gets the gimped engine, but is there any particular reason the Centurion 7/1 doesn't also get the improved turret armor? I also have to question why the Strv 81 has APCR as its default shell type. Naturally this too is a tradeoff, same pen as the Centurion 1's stock AP, higher velocity, but less normalization. But why bother in the first place? A comfort issue or just for keks? 

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View PostAvalon304, on Feb 02 2017 - 20:39, said:

 

You need to look at that power to weight ratio (~12 hp/ton) before you start saying "same speed" because top speed is one of the most meaningless stats on a tank.

 

EDIT: Also heres the direct comparison of the Strv 81 vs the Mk. 1 Centurion:

 

http://beta.tanks.gg...?cs=centurion-i

They must have nerfed it recently because I could have sworn they buffed its engine to 900. I think it's good that it isn't straight up better now. 



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View PostMikosah, on Jun 22 2017 - 20:24, said:

I'll call it a fair trade that the Centurion 1 gets the gimped turret while the Strv 81 gets the gimped engine, but is there any particular reason the Centurion 7/1 doesn't also get the improved turret armor? I also have to question why the Strv 81 has APCR as its default shell type. Naturally this too is a tradeoff, same pen as the Centurion 1's stock AP, higher velocity, but less normalization. But why bother in the first place? A comfort issue or just for keks? 

 

This is one of the improvements we need to see for the centurion. It's not an OP tank by any means any really could go back to it's purpose as a ridge defender. The patriot, persching, and KR Patton have this...so why not the centurion with a 200 mantlet?





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