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DreamlessMemory #81 Posted Sep 02 2010 - 11:50

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View PostRobcodd, on Sep 02 2010 - 03:47, said:

So I just thought, what the hell, Im going to try out the 152mm. WOW does that pack a punch! T44's drop fast. Of course you absolutely need help with this gun as you will be dead by the time it reloads. The xp it brings in is amazing. Just 2 shots in one battle got me 800 xp with premium. Just dont miss. Those shots are costly. This is the first time ive seen tanks back away from me. The 107 hurts thats for sure, but this gun means business. It is most useful in cities ive found so you have to get lucky on the map draw. I will return to the 107 for sure. This is a nice break from that play style.

I don't know about the 107mm's range, but with the 152mm (which I have solely used), I can get reliable kills from about 600 meters away, so open field maps are good too.

Most of the time, I ride shotgun to another heavy as close fire support.

The 30-second reload can kill you, but I was able to chain together a 4-shots-4-kills streak on Ensk by maneuvering myself around the buildings and the wrecks of my victims.

Play poorly and the shell cost kill you. Play well, and you'll be reaping in 20k+ credits and 1k+ EXP, without premium. In the long run, I've always netted positive.

Robcodd #82 Posted Sep 02 2010 - 11:54

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My crew is around 70% now so aiming and loading is still hurting. i never tried a 600 range shot. too afraid of wasting 700 some credits and 30 second reload. I bought rammer, and that didnt seem to help much at all. I think ill buy it again after wipe, and use rammer with the enhanced accuracy module. Although the kv-3 is tempting.

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View PostRobcodd, on Sep 02 2010 - 11:54, said:

My crew is around 70% now so aiming and loading is still hurting. i never tried a 600 range shot. too afraid of wasting 700 some credits and 30 second reload. I bought rammer, and that didnt seem to help much at all. I think ill buy it again after wipe, and use rammer with the enhanced accuracy module. Although the kv-3 is tempting.

700 Credits? You're using the AP I assume. I'd suggest the HE, more power at range, since AP loses at range.

I'm going to get an S-51 after the wipe. I'll keep the KV, but I may want to get a T-44.

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When my KV3 crew was in the 90's my 107mm did good but I still had annoying up close misses.  When they passed 100% all of a sudden the 107mm Magic began.  They didn't miss anything. That gun became the most lethal player in the game and my tank started getting some serious kills.  I am now as I said in an IS and I will whole heartedly tell you one thing I have learned.  If your crew is not past 101% do not expect any tank to do well in a shoot out.  I know some of you may say different. But I am talking about things like auto targeting lock on and leading targets. After 101, your crew will become gods of war and your hit/kill ratio will go up.  The 107mm is the best gun in any KV for this purpose because it's cheap on the ammo and it hits very hard.  Also if your gonna go nose to nose with a T-44 and or Tiger, your gonna want that quick reload time. Trust me, quicker reload beats out bigger punch every time.  I would rather take my chances that My 101+ crew will get 6 no miss 107 shots into that KV3 than his 80% crews 152mm will get on me while he's waiting for a reload.

BTW, 107mm range is outstanding, KV3 makes a great tank killer/base defence if used that way.

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Mm...

KV with the 152mm ROFLOMGWTFBBQ gun, is a one-shot wonder.

Pricy, and takes a bit to aim, but if you hit anything Tier6 it's 90% of the time a One-shot.

Even took off 96% HP from a Tiger in one go.

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View PostSakuzhi, on Sep 02 2010 - 14:38, said:

Mm...

KV with the 152mm ROFLOMGWTFBBQ gun, is a one-shot wonder.

Pricy, and takes a bit to aim, but if you hit anything Tier6 it's 90% of the time a One-shot.

Even took off 96% HP from a Tiger in one go.

Correct, it is definately "Gunzilla" but keep in mind ammo costs and reload time.

Sakuzhi #87 Posted Sep 02 2010 - 20:05

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It's a One-shot wonder, pop out. Aim, kill then withdraw.

Rinse.

Repeat ^.^ pretty easy. As like -very- few tankers are aggressive enough to chase you down while you spend the next 25 seconds reloading >.>

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View Postarma1ite, on Aug 20 2010 - 07:22, said:

Hi to all, guys!
I've just read some of topics there about KV. It seems to me that everyone use 107mm ZiS-6 gun.. But does anybody use 152mm howitzer? I'm asking only because many russian gamers like this gun for its HE shells, despite its low realoding speed. And what's your oppinion about this gun?
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Tried it. Works well in the city. But on open map you are fair game to anyone with speed higher than 35 km/h and gun larger that 45 mm. Which is mean - fair game to anyone in general. If you lucky, you can pulverize one tank and that it. And do not think long-distance shooting will help - you will not hit the barn (another KV-2 or T-28) from 300 m with it.

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View PostArgo66, on Sep 02 2010 - 14:28, said:

When my KV3 crew was in the 90's my 107mm did good but I still had annoying up close misses.  When they passed 100% all of a sudden the 107mm Magic began.  They didn't miss anything. That gun became the most lethal player in the game and my tank started getting some serious kills.  I am now as I said in an IS and I will whole heartedly tell you one thing I have learned.  If your crew is not past 101% do not expect any tank to do well in a shoot out.  I know some of you may say different. But I am talking about things like auto targeting lock on and leading targets. After 101, your crew will become gods of war and your hit/kill ratio will go up.  The 107mm is the best gun in any KV for this purpose because it's cheap on the ammo and it hits very hard.  Also if your gonna go nose to nose with a T-44 and or Tiger, your gonna want that quick reload time. Trust me, quicker reload beats out bigger punch every time.  I would rather take my chances that My 101+ crew will get 6 no miss 107 shots into that KV3 than his 80% crews 152mm will get on me while he's waiting for a reload.

BTW, 107mm range is outstanding, KV3 makes a great tank killer/base defence if used that way.
+1. For this reason I also prefer ZiS-4 on my T-34 over any 76 mm gun. Accurate and quick reloading, penetration excellent.

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I need some advice - I'm using a KV with the 107mm at the moment, first real experience with a heavy tank (before the wipe it was nearly all mediums, and my other two current tanks are a T-34 and a Panther). Is it best to use HE or AP?

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View Postpagad, on Sep 03 2010 - 18:37, said:

I need some advice - I'm using a KV with the 107mm at the moment, first real experience with a heavy tank (before the wipe it was nearly all mediums, and my other two current tanks are a T-34 and a Panther). Is it best to use HE or AP?
AP. Much less penetration with HE for very little extra damage.

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View Postpagad, on Sep 03 2010 - 18:37, said:

I need some advice - I'm using a KV with the 107mm at the moment, first real experience with a heavy tank (before the wipe it was nearly all mediums, and my other two current tanks are a T-34 and a Panther). Is it best to use HE or AP?
IMAO that's depend on distance to target. I always start fight with loading of HE round. When things gets hotter and enemy closer (say less than 150 m) AP will be better for medium and heavy tanks. LT, artillery still better cracked with HE. That assuming you will have time to discern type of your adversary and hit appropriate button.

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I have to confess a fascination for the KV-2. I like the look of the ugly turret and stumpy gun that deals 700 damage of explody death. That said though, after playing it I found it to be slow-loading, inefficient, and counter-productive to leveling up.

Now that I don't want to advance any further on the tank line (KV-3 is 'heavy' enough for me), I wondered if I could get some fun out of the KV-2 again. Although it fires about twice a minute at worst, it can put out anywhere from 700 to 910 damage in one blow. That's enough to take out some medium tanks and maim heavies. With a crack crew and autoloader you can bring down the time for reloading. Though the turret traverse is terrible, I was able to destroy a KV-1 in two blasts (though I died not long after).

I wanted to know what others thought about the KV-2 arrangement (KV tank, KV-2 turret, 152mm M-10 gun). Is it the most impractical heavy tank in all of WoT, or is there a way to use the fearsome gun effectively?

Urbanrat #94 Posted Sep 05 2010 - 13:25

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I love my KV-2 to death... I use the 122,152 and 107 and I just keep switching between them depending on how I feel... I also got bored and bought some premium HEAT shells for the 152.... Epic is the only word to describe it..

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First, use the 152mm with HE. It is a mortar. More integrity and subsystem damage.

Second, you are no longer a front-line tank. Team up with another Heavy tank.

Do not expose yourself unless you need to fire. Use hills to your advantage. Take a look at the Hull-down tactic, and use it. Your turret is better armoured than your chassis. Since autoaim locks onto the chassis, if you are in hull-down, the shots will hit the hill.

You have a tracer, which means SPGs can easily mistake you for another SPGs and attempt counter-battery. That being said, the KV-2 with a 152mm is much like an SPG that is forced constantly to play in close combat.

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stay at back, don't go in first line. Better off sniping from safe distance and hoping that it will hit something than going for sure kill but expose yourself too much. Before firing find some solid cover. After shell is fired, get behind cover to reload. Don't advance as first tank. I even won't suggest you to defend a base because if something breaks through, you are screwed. Just go somewhere in mid field and support attack from distance. And what is more important - use HE ammo only (though keep some AP shells for emergency - for targets that break thourgh to you and have enough armor so HE won't penetrate but not enough armor to bounce AP shells - it will be around tier 4-6 so you will propably one shot them with AP).

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View Postpagad, on Sep 03 2010 - 18:37, said:

I need some advice - I'm using a KV with the 107mm at the moment, first real experience with a heavy tank (before the wipe it was nearly all mediums, and my other two current tanks are a T-34 and a Panther). Is it best to use HE or AP?

To be completely honest, This question gets many answers but I have found with the 107mm AP rules, I tried HE again and again and again with it and it never did me good. However, I now have a VK3601 and it has the 8.8cm and let me tell you that HE rounds in that cannon does a crap load of hurt on tanks but not quite as good as the trusty 107 in my KV3.  I will hazard a guess that HE works a bit better in the German tree than the Russian because my IS3 and it's 122mm also do not do well with HE either.

Stick with the AP kiddo and hit em hard!!!!! :Smile-izmena:

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I use the 107mm with HE shells against big tanks and AP against everything else. Works a treat, I love my KV.

I tried the 152mm, but I honestly don't like it at all. Bouncing shells is no fun with a reload time of half a minute.

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I've been experimenting, and have noticed that using HE in my 107mm is incredibly effective against tanks which would bounce my AP ammo. I have been a right pain in the arse to KTs and Ferds just by nailing them in the front with HE and often taking a good chunk of health off them.

I mostly use AP ammo against targets I can reliably penetrate. Seems to be a good system!

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For the love of my old KV-2, i honourly keep the standard 152mm gun on my ISU152
:Smile_honoring::Smile_honoring:  to my awesome KV2 and crew




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