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KilljoyCutter #40961 Posted Sep 20 2019 - 22:45

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View Postcipher12, on Sep 20 2019 - 16:35, said:

Anything is legal when your party does what ever you say and the other party refuses to hold you or your cronies in contempt.

 

In this case, the other party cannot act unilaterally.


 

If they impeach and the Senate doesn't convict, then it becomes a giant boon for Trump in the next election, he can rant about "libruls attempting a coop".


 


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Mermaid_Witch #40962 Posted Sep 20 2019 - 22:54

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Unfortunately, the Founding Fathers didn't foresee an event where partisanship would reach the point where one party would rather keep a crazed lunatic in office instead of giving the other side a "point".

Apple_Jack #40963 Posted Sep 20 2019 - 23:04

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Federalist 68:

 

"The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.

 

Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single State; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States.

 

It will not be too strong to say, that there will be a constant probability of seeing the station filled by characters pre-eminent for ability and virtue."

 

Poor Alexander Hamilton. Who's going to tell him that his plan didn't count on the body of gullible, propaganda-driven party faithful?



Mermaid_Witch #40964 Posted Sep 20 2019 - 23:04

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In less infuriating news, I made a Pershing.  I finished painting it today and sealed it with a gloss topcoat.  Now the question is: Do I leave it as-is with the coat giving a new-car shine to it, or do I proceed to weather the tank and hit it with a flat topcoat afterwards to make it look like it's seen some action?

 

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Mermaid_Witch #40965 Posted Sep 20 2019 - 23:06

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View PostApple_Jack, on Sep 20 2019 - 17:04, said:

Federalist 68:

 

"The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.

 

Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single State; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States.

 

It will not be too strong to say, that there will be a constant probability of seeing the station filled by characters pre-eminent for ability and virtue."

 

Poor Alexander Hamilton. Who's going to tell him that his plan didn't count on the body of gullible, propaganda-driven party faithful?

 

Someone needs to go back in time, slap Alexander Hamilton, and scream "but her emails!" into his face.



Apple_Jack #40966 Posted Sep 21 2019 - 01:11

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View PostMermaid_Witch, on Sep 20 2019 - 23:06, said:

 

Someone needs to go back in time, slap Alexander Hamilton, and scream "but her emails!" into his face.


If you have one, I would happily volunteer to save the alternate timelines from the current partisan trajectory. I have a copy of Dave McCaulley's "The Way Things Work" and enough future gadgets to wow George Washington. Let's do this.



godofdun #40967 Posted Sep 21 2019 - 01:16

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View PostApple_Jack, on Sep 20 2019 - 15:04, said:

Federalist 68:

 

"The process of election affords a moral certainty, that the office of President will never fall to the lot of any man who is not in an eminent degree endowed with the requisite qualifications.

 

Talents for low intrigue, and the little arts of popularity, may alone suffice to elevate a man to the first honors in a single State; but it will require other talents, and a different kind of merit, to establish him in the esteem and confidence of the whole Union, or of so considerable a portion of it as would be necessary to make him a successful candidate for the distinguished office of President of the United States.

 

It will not be too strong to say, that there will be a constant probability of seeing the station filled by characters pre-eminent for ability and virtue."

 

Poor Alexander Hamilton. Who's going to tell him that his plan didn't count on the body of gullible, propaganda-driven party faithful?

 

IIRC, not sure about Hamilton specifically but some of the founding fathers didn't even like the IDEA of political parties.  They didn't foresee every one of our current difficulties, they couldn't have.  They were smart people but they weren't soothsayers.

 

View PostKilljoyCutter, on Sep 20 2019 - 14:45, said:

 

In this case, the other party cannot act unilaterally.


 

If they impeach and the Senate doesn't convict, then it because a giant boon for Trump in the next election, he can rant about "libruls attempting a coop".


 

 

I'm still wondering if maybe Pelosi's plan is to start the House proceedings so late that there's no possible way for them to be completed before election day, to avoid the Senate giving him that while filling the news with recaps of his obstruction etc so that it is fresh in the minds of voters.  Then again that's the charitable view.....



stalkervision #40968 Posted Sep 21 2019 - 01:47

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View PostMermaid_Witch, on Sep 20 2019 - 17:04, said:

In less infuriating news, I made a Pershing.  I finished painting it today and sealed it with a gloss topcoat.  Now the question is: Do I leave it as-is with the coat giving a new-car shine to it, or do I proceed to weather the tank and hit it with a flat topcoat afterwards to make it look like it's seen some action?

 

Spoiler

 

Make it factory fresh! Everyone does weathering. 



cipher12 #40969 Posted Sep 21 2019 - 02:47

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Whos ready for Desert quagmire number 3?

 

Meanwhile all the model tanks in the thread has finally given the motivation to finish this monster

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LordCommanderMilitant #40970 Posted Sep 21 2019 - 08:17

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View Postcipher12, on Sep 21 2019 - 01:47, said:

Whos ready for Desert quagmire number 3?

 

Meanwhile all the model tanks in the thread has finally given the motivation to finish this monster

Spoiler

 

 

Nice Hellhammer! 

 

 

Also, the Pershing looks nice. Needs some mud and grime. I don't have any new tanks to show right now, just a small pile of GK and SoB infantry. I also need to learn to do faces.



KilljoyCutter #40971 Posted Sep 21 2019 - 13:18

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View Postgodofdun, on Sep 20 2019 - 19:16, said:

 

IIRC, not sure about Hamilton specifically but some of the founding fathers didn't even like the IDEA of political parties.  They didn't foresee every one of our current difficulties, they couldn't have.  They were smart people but they weren't soothsayers.

 

 

I'm still wondering if maybe Pelosi's plan is to start the House proceedings so late that there's no possible way for them to be completed before election day, to avoid the Senate giving him that while filling the news with recaps of his obstruction etc so that it is fresh in the minds of voters.  Then again that's the charitable view.....

 

Washington hated the idea of political parties, to the point where if he could have found a way to ban them without violating rights of speech and association, I think he would have. And I agree with him.


 

As for timing on impeachment... I wonder when it would hurt Trump the most without being seen as a stunt.



Mermaid_Witch #40972 Posted Sep 21 2019 - 14:12

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View Poststalkervision, on Sep 20 2019 - 19:47, said:

Make it factory fresh! Everyone does weathering. 

 

View PostLordCommanderMilitant, on Sep 21 2019 - 02:17, said:

Also, the Pershing looks nice. Needs some mud and grime.

 

Okay, one vote for as-is, one vote for weathering.  Anyone else want to vote?



Zergling #40973 Posted Sep 21 2019 - 14:20

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So Australian Special Force in Afghanistan have been committing war crimes, like executing prisoners.

 

It's been rumored for a while this had been going on, but the Australian Government has been trying to cover it up, by sending the Federal Police to raid journalists investigating it.

 



KilljoyCutter #40974 Posted Sep 21 2019 - 14:22

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View PostZergling, on Sep 21 2019 - 08:20, said:

So Australian Special Force in Afghanistan have been committing war crimes, like executing prisoners.

 

It's been rumored for a while this had been going on, but the Australian Government has been trying to cover it up, by sending the Federal Police to raid journalists investigating it.

 

 

I think Australia needs stronger press protections, all these ways the government can stifle reporting are kinda scary.


 

But I bet Trump is jealous.


 



cipher12 #40975 Posted Sep 21 2019 - 14:43

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View PostMermaid_Witch, on Sep 21 2019 - 14:12, said:

 

 

Okay, one vote for as-is, one vote for weathering.  Anyone else want to vote?


Weathering is always nice in moderation.



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View Postcipher12, on Sep 21 2019 - 08:43, said:


Weathering is always nice in moderation.

 

I like factory fresh or gently used.

 

My next project is going to be the Academy 1:35 Honey, and I plan on doing some gentle weathering (dust) but nothing more than that.



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I vote for some weathering. Dust or similar on the tracks and undercarriage is good. 

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View PostChairmanMilo, on Sep 21 2019 - 09:47, said:

 

I like factory fresh or gently used.

 

My next project is going to be the Academy 1:35 Honey, and I plan on doing some gentle weathering (dust) but nothing more than that.


You know what would be really sweet? Make a mini-diorama of it just coming out of production. I never see that. 



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View Postcipher12, on Sep 20 2019 - 18:47, said:

 

An additional thought that occurred to me is "how pathetic does all this make the Saudi's look?".  They've bought how many billions of dollars of military hardware from us, Canada etc that they would even need our direct assistance with this or Yemen?

 

Also Bolton's mustache just became a little erect.

 

View PostKilljoyCutter, on Sep 21 2019 - 05:18, said:

 

Washington hated the idea of political parties, to the point where if he could have found a way to ban them without violating rights of speech and association, I think he would have. And I agree with him.


 

As for timing on impeachment... I wonder when it would hurt Trump the most without being seen as a stunt.

 

They provide some utility as well, I'm not fully against them, but if were going to have them it should be another of those things that gets some level of codification going forward.

 

I think it would get labeled as a stunt regardless, but maybe sometime soon after the debates.  He's a terrible debater so that part is a slam dunk for any candidate that can stick to the issues and policies, so I would think after that.

 

View PostZergling, on Sep 21 2019 - 06:20, said:

So Australian Special Force in Afghanistan have been committing war crimes, like executing prisoners.

 

It's been rumored for a while this had been going on, but the Australian Government has been trying to cover it up, by sending the Federal Police to raid journalists investigating it.

 

 

Stop emulating us, bad Aussies baaaad.



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View Postgodofdun, on Sep 21 2019 - 13:39, said:

Also Bolton's mustache just became a little erect.

 

And just think, Bolton could have been a part of this if he had just kept his fat mouth shut when Trump invited the goddamned Taliban into the US on the eve of the 18th anniversary of 9/11 for peace talks.  But noooo... Bolton had to prove he had a spine and argue with el presidente.

 

Edit:  So, my grandmother saw a "doctor" today who suggested colloidal silver for her.  When my mom said she had never heard of it, he said "well, it's a more of a homeopathic treatment".  So now my mom is buying colloidal silver off Amazon.  Not sure how to bring up the fact that it's all a bunch of hogwash.






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