Jump to content


Planes, Trains and T110s


  • Please log in to reply
48384 replies to this topic

cipher12 #48021 Posted Dec 09 2020 - 11:45

    Major

  • Players
  • 11752 battles
  • 7,789
  • Member since:
    11-17-2011

View Postgodofdun, on Dec 09 2020 - 01:11, said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/12/07/unemployed-debt-rent-utilities/

"Nearly 12 million renters will owe an average of $5,850 in back rent and utilities by January, Moody’s Analytics warns. Last month, 9 million renters said they were behind on rent, according to a Census Bureau survey."

"How about a 1 time cheque of $600 and in return we slash benefits plus give companies blanket immunities to covid related lawsuits" White House

https://www.business...20-12?r=US&IR=T



godofdun #48022 Posted Dec 10 2020 - 00:15

    Major

  • Players
  • 17159 battles
  • 6,881
  • [CMFRT] CMFRT
  • Member since:
    07-09-2011

View PostKilljoyCutter, on Dec 08 2020 - 19:48, said:

 

Just feels like all I have to talk about are stressful things.

 

It doesn't seem like there's much going on that isn't.

 

View Postcipher12, on Dec 09 2020 - 03:45, said:

"How about a 1 time cheque of $600 and in return we slash benefits plus give companies blanket immunities to covid related lawsuits" White House

https://www.business...20-12?r=US&IR=T

 

It's the "let everyone get so immiserated that they'll push to accept anything" strategy.

 

---------------------------

 

Remember the Florida whistleblower that was asked to alter the data and was fired for not doing so?  They raided her home with guns drawn for pretty slim reasons.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/fl-ne-whistleblower-search-warrant-20201208-rapzkgm7fnbujlhwzadunciigu-story.html



KilljoyCutter #48023 Posted Dec 10 2020 - 00:18

    Major

  • Players
  • 8469 battles
  • 28,444
  • Member since:
    05-07-2011

Yeah, I was reading about that, would be good to see a federal investigation of what's gone on there.

 

On election news... all the experts say the Texas AG's lawsuit almost certainly DOA, but that doesn't really alleviate my anxiety.

 



godofdun #48024 Posted Dec 10 2020 - 03:01

    Major

  • Players
  • 17159 battles
  • 6,881
  • [CMFRT] CMFRT
  • Member since:
    07-09-2011
Speaking of depressing, 3200+ recorded dead today from covid.....

KilljoyCutter #48025 Posted Dec 10 2020 - 03:34

    Major

  • Players
  • 8469 battles
  • 28,444
  • Member since:
    05-07-2011

View Postgodofdun, on Dec 09 2020 - 21:01, said:

Speaking of depressing, 3200+ recorded dead today from covid.....

 

And that's solidly over the Sept 11th number. 

:(



godofdun #48026 Posted Dec 10 2020 - 22:21

    Major

  • Players
  • 17159 battles
  • 6,881
  • [CMFRT] CMFRT
  • Member since:
    07-09-2011
Good news, let's hope this is only the beginning
https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/09/tech/facebook-antitrust-lawsuit-ftc-attorney-generals/index.html

KilljoyCutter #48027 Posted Dec 10 2020 - 22:36

    Major

  • Players
  • 8469 battles
  • 28,444
  • Member since:
    05-07-2011

Over 100 GOP representatives sign on to the Texass lawsuit attempting to disenfranchise the voters of PA, MI, WI, and GA.  

 

Of note, 4 of Michigan's 6 GOP house members signed on, evidently willing to call their OWN election to office into question to show fealty to Dear Orange Leader.  

 

 

For those who don't know, the TX AG who filed this is under multiple investigations for corruption and abuse of office... and the Trump lawyer who is assigned in support of it and evidently wrote the actual text of the suit is the same wackjob who tried to claim that Harris can't be VP because she's the (American-born) child of immigrants.  

 


Edited by KilljoyCutter, Dec 10 2020 - 22:38.


Avalon304 #48028 Posted Dec 10 2020 - 22:56

    Major

  • Players
  • 26233 battles
  • 11,714
  • Member since:
    09-04-2012

View PostKilljoyCutter, on Dec 10 2020 - 14:36, said:

Over 100 GOP representatives sign on to the Texass lawsuit attempting to disenfranchise the voters of PA, MI, WI, and GA.  

 

Of note, 4 of Michigan's 6 GOP house members signed on, evidently willing to call their OWN election to office into question to show fealty to Dear Orange Leader.  

 

 

For those who don't know, the TX AG who filed this is under multiple investigations for corruption and abuse of office... and the Trump lawyer who is assigned in support of it and evidently wrote the actual text of the suit is the same wackjob who tried to claim that Harris can't be VP because she's the (American-born) child of immigrants.  

 

 

The SCOTUS doesnt want to open the can of worms that will be opened by even hearing this case. It would open the way for every state to sue others just because they dont like something. This will likely die a quick death. After Biden is in power his AG should definitely be instructed to bring up all 106 members of the house and every AG involved with supporting the law suit up on sedition charges however... and throw Trump in while we are at it.



KilljoyCutter #48029 Posted Dec 10 2020 - 23:12

    Major

  • Players
  • 8469 battles
  • 28,444
  • Member since:
    05-07-2011

View PostAvalon304, on Dec 10 2020 - 16:56, said:

The SCOTUS doesnt want to open the can of worms that will be opened by even hearing this case. It would open the way for every state to sue others just because they dont like something. This will likely die a quick death. After Biden is in power his AG should definitely be instructed to bring up all 106 members of the house and every AG involved with supporting the law suit up on sedition charges however... and throw Trump in while we are at it.

 

Every election law and constitutional law expert I've seen comment on this has blown it off as garbage, sometimes in even harsher terms like that.   Even several Republican senators and representatives from Texas have said that's something between inexplicable and nonsense.   And yeah, I can't see SCOTUS wanting anything to do with making themselves the venue for states to question each other's laws and policies. 

 

And yet... I still can't relax until SCOTUS actually does refuse to hear it.  Every time I think we've hit the point where maybe we'll get massive pushback... too many remain silent or actively go along. 

 



Mermaid_Witch #48030 Posted Dec 11 2020 - 00:08

    Major

  • Players
  • 14582 battles
  • 14,938
  • Member since:
    03-27-2011

View PostKilljoyCutter, on Dec 10 2020 - 16:36, said:

Over 100 GOP representatives sign on to the Texass lawsuit attempting to disenfranchise the voters of PA, MI, WI, and GA.  

 

Of note, 4 of Michigan's 6 GOP house members signed on, evidently willing to call their OWN election to office into question to show fealty to Dear Orange Leader. 

 

If I goes through, can I sue Texas for rendering my constitutional right to vote invalid?



Avalon304 #48031 Posted Dec 11 2020 - 01:01

    Major

  • Players
  • 26233 battles
  • 11,714
  • Member since:
    09-04-2012

View PostMermaid_Witch, on Dec 10 2020 - 16:08, said:

 

If I goes through, can I sue Texas for rendering my constitutional right to vote invalid?

 

Thats exactly the reason that the SCOTUS wont want to touch this with a 10 foot pole...

 

22 state AGs and DC have joined in support of PA, MI, WI and GA, opposing the suit by Texas and the 17 other states... at this point a majority of states believe that the election was fair (the 4 defendant states + the 22 other states). I dont think the SCOTUS can just ignore that.



KilljoyCutter #48032 Posted Dec 11 2020 - 01:24

    Major

  • Players
  • 8469 battles
  • 28,444
  • Member since:
    05-07-2011

View PostAvalon304, on Dec 10 2020 - 19:01, said:

 

Thats exactly the reason that the SCOTUS wont want to touch this with a 10 foot pole...

 

22 state AGs and DC have joined in support of PA, MI, WI and GA, opposing the suit by Texas and the 17 other states... at this point a majority of states believe that the election was fair (the 4 defendant states + the 22 other states). I dont think the SCOTUS can just ignore that.

 

There's also multiple TX Republicans calling the suit into question, and multiple members of the TX AG's own staff refusing to participate in it.  

Ironically, the other red AGs and the Trump campaign jumping in actually undermines some of the arguments made in the suit.  

 


Edited by KilljoyCutter, Dec 11 2020 - 01:44.


godofdun #48033 Posted Dec 11 2020 - 01:26

    Major

  • Players
  • 17159 battles
  • 6,881
  • [CMFRT] CMFRT
  • Member since:
    07-09-2011

View PostKilljoyCutter, on Dec 10 2020 - 15:12, said:

And yet... I still can't relax until SCOTUS actually does refuse to hear it.  Every time I think we've hit the point where maybe we'll get massive pushback... too many remain silent or actively go along. 

 

 

In terms of that, for me it's more pushing back than I feared, but not as many as I'd hoped.  Not knowing how far gone things are in that respect brings it's own truckload of anxiety.



KilljoyCutter #48034 Posted Dec 11 2020 - 05:01

    Major

  • Players
  • 8469 battles
  • 28,444
  • Member since:
    05-07-2011

View PostMermaid_Witch, on Dec 10 2020 - 18:08, said:

 

If I goes through, can I sue Texas for rendering my constitutional right to vote invalid?

 

That's actually a good point, every voter in all four states could immediately file suit.

 

In fact, if this garbage somehow actually gets into real proceedings, someone should start that immediately.

 

 



Mermaid_Witch #48035 Posted Dec 11 2020 - 13:05

    Major

  • Players
  • 14582 battles
  • 14,938
  • Member since:
    03-27-2011

View PostKilljoyCutter, on Dec 10 2020 - 23:01, said:

 

That's actually a good point, every voter in all four states could immediately file suit.

 

In fact, if this garbage somehow actually gets into real proceedings, someone should start that immediately.

 

 

 

Class Action suit against the Texas AG, Texas, and every person who signed onto this farce!



KilljoyCutter #48036 Posted Dec 11 2020 - 14:38

    Major

  • Players
  • 8469 battles
  • 28,444
  • Member since:
    05-07-2011

Truth Decay:
https://reason.com/2...mising-freedom/

 

Some Trump supporters find it easier to believe that every major American institution is potentially corrupt than to think that a president with a history of telling whoppers is being dishonest again.


Edited by KilljoyCutter, Dec 11 2020 - 14:57.


Mermaid_Witch #48037 Posted Dec 11 2020 - 14:54

    Major

  • Players
  • 14582 battles
  • 14,938
  • Member since:
    03-27-2011

View PostKilljoyCutter, on Dec 11 2020 - 08:38, said:

Truth Decay:
https://reason.com/2...mising-freedom/

 

Some Trump supporters find it easier to believe that every major American institution is potentially corrupt than to think that a president with a history of telling whoppers is being dishonest again.

 

He may lie to other people, but he would never lie to his supporters!  Him and his supporters have a special bond and mutual trust that can't be manufactured or bought.  You're just jealous that he doesn't think highly enough of you to tell you the truth.


Edited by Mermaid_Witch, Dec 11 2020 - 14:54.


cipher12 #48038 Posted Dec 11 2020 - 15:26

    Major

  • Players
  • 11752 battles
  • 7,789
  • Member since:
    11-17-2011

Australia speed running its way to authoritarianism.

https://thenewdaily....bill-australia/

 

Meanwhile Moderates actually just conservatives imagine my shock

https://www.independ...c-a9699431.html



Mermaid_Witch #48039 Posted Dec 11 2020 - 15:35

    Major

  • Players
  • 14582 battles
  • 14,938
  • Member since:
    03-27-2011

View Postcipher12, on Dec 11 2020 - 09:26, said:

Meanwhile Moderates actually just conservatives imagine my shock

https://www.independ...c-a9699431.html

 

Eh, I consider myself "moderate" or "centrist", but I routinely vote Democrat.  What's that make me?



KilljoyCutter #48040 Posted Dec 11 2020 - 16:19

    Major

  • Players
  • 8469 battles
  • 28,444
  • Member since:
    05-07-2011

The GOP House of Reps simp list

 

Spoiler

 






22 user(s) are reading this topic

1 members, 21 guests, 0 anonymous users


    Avalon304