Worst tanks per DPM? of all tier 8 heavies it places at 25/37, ahead of tanks like the lowe, t34 and AMX M4 MLE.
It has the same DPM as the IS-3 which is considered one of the strongest tier 8 tanks. PLUS it has 440 alpha, compared to the IS-3's 390.
god awful handling? It has 6% better aim time than the IS-3, and 10% worse accuracy (5% better than the is-6). This is pretty much the only place it falls below the IS-3, but for tier 10 armor, i'd gladly have 30% worse accuracy.
The lower plate of the defender when angled is stronger than the strongest point of the is-3 and is-6 when angled hull armors. The LFP "weakness" on this tank is stronger then the strongest point on the other tanks. Look at my initial post to see for yourself.
At tier 8 the defender's turret is extremely strong, requiring enemies to be up close and have accurate guns. The turret is actually one of the few balanced things about the tank, having a weak-point pretty much the same as the IS-6's cupolas and the IS-3's over matched turret roof/
Anyways, If you reply to this, I would prefer if you actually include facts instead of phrases like "god awful handling and accuracy" and "similar to some of the worst tanks for DPM in the tier".
Also try posting on your account with more than 8 games played.
This tank is overpowered.
25/37 on DPM. Well into the bottom half. And some of those tanks are A) Not in the game yet, B) Clones with different skins, I.e M4 49 + Liberte, T26E5 + Patriot, and C) Autoloaders, which aren't comparable in any way in terms of DPM. Factoring out tanks that are not in the game yet, are reskin clones, and autoloaders, it is 16/23. Meaning it is only 30th percentile for DPM, which is terrible.
Apparently you are so daft you don't know what handling is. Yes it does have slightly better aim time, but worse accuracy. That's not what handling is. Gun handling is the dispersion values, which both the IS-3 and IS-6 beat the 252. The IS3 gets 0.21/0.21/0.08 and the IS-6 gets 0.23/0.23/0.12 to the 252s 0.24/0.24/0.12. So the IS-3 beats it significantly, and the IS-6 beats it marginally. I would hope a tank with sheltered matchmaking wouldn't absolutely thrash the 252, it's purposefully gimped with that trash gun, and the IS-6s gun STILL handles better than the 252.
The lower plate is huge and easily penetrable with same tier prem ammo even when angled optimally, and somewhat reliably penned with standard T8 heavy ammo when head on.
The turret is strong yes. I suggest you stop firing at the thickest parts of it. The cupolas are prominent targets, and even with its trash tier handling I've repeatedly penned other 252s with my Defender whilst at 100m and they are juking. It doesn't require a very accurate gun at all, it just requires you to know how to aim and be sure to have 100% crews so you don't miss often. Really if you are fighting a 252 at a range where his gun is a threat in any reasonable amount of time, the cupolas are very easy to hit. If you are at a range they aren't easy to hit, then the 252 is going to have a laughable time trying to get his gun to settle in to hit you at all reliably.
This account is an NA account created for reasons I don't care to repeat another time. I play on EU. If I try to login in to the NA forums with my EU account it won't let me.
This tank is not overpowered, you are just too ignorant to figure out how to beat it. I guarantee you if you buy it you will change your opinion, and probably complain that you want your money back because it came nowhere close to your expectation. There is an old addage, what was it? Ah yes, pebkac.
Edited by WhatsThisBoxFor, Feb 27 2017 - 06:38.