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E50 - Simply the Boss


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2_minutes_hate #261 Posted Oct 05 2011 - 15:22

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Great just researched T20 on my way to Patton. No apparently I need to ditch all that and start German med line. Boo hiss I tell you boo hiss

NeatoMan #262 Posted Oct 05 2011 - 15:35

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View PostAelomnomnom, on Oct 05 2011 - 15:03, said:

Do you have the top engine?

Do you have the top gun?

If the answer is no to either of these you have yet to unlock the E-50's potential.
I've got everything but the top gun.  using the 88/L100 atm. I simply haven't figured out how to play it yet, because it certainly isn't anything like my panthers, i love both of those.  This seems more like my VK3001H, except with sloped armor.  Zoom from spot to spot, except my VK can hide.  Can't snipe, because all the top tier games seem to move faster (especially those soviet mediums), and there's always lots of arty.  I can't brawl worth a damn, since it's not super agile (plus I suck at it).   One on one vs any other medium, and I lose if there is any room for them to manuever around me.   I'm just not sure what to do with it.

JamesDean #263 Posted Oct 05 2011 - 19:34

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View PostAelomnomnom, on Oct 05 2011 - 15:02, said:

Just for the people who are deciding between an E-50 or a Patton, everything I bolded is false.  The E-50 is better than the Patton at all things besides gun depression.

No.  

From what you bolded, and from not even have played the Patton, at best you'd be trolling as far as I'm concerned.  Come back when you actually can compare the two firsthand.

Though the more I play the E-50 the more I love it.  It is great.  Powerful and easy to play.  I can understand the admiration. Maneuverability and RoF are great in close quarters.  You should know that from the 54.  

But hey, if you or anybody else thinks the Patton sucks, then by all means, go complain to the devs.  Get it buffed.  I won't mind at all.....

Battlecruiser #264 Posted Oct 06 2011 - 03:07

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it's not the boss. it's very good but it's not good at everything, for example scouting and sniping

-oh but battleloser! derp diddly gun accuracy herpaderp!
yes it's accurate. but it's also fast, has good armor, and  is poor at hiding. why would you be stationary and trying to snipe with this tank? that's asking to get hammered into the ground by a high tier arty.

but on the same issue, it's effectiveness as a medium is also limited when alone. mediums cannot go up against heavies pound for pound with equally good drivers. only the t-54 can do this and only against a maus or e-100 in a solo situation, which happens how often in a team battle?.

so yeah, go in a group or stay in arty shadow and spot/shooting at anything that gets in your field of view from said arty shadow. or you will see exactly how hits it takes to get to the center of an e-50.

my personal opinion on this baby?
slap spall optics and vents on this baby and run in a pack or spot for arty. since with this combination you still get slightly more than 6 shots a minute and can spot long range while surviving splash damage too, well that and if you're as ram happy as me you will find the spall liner to be of benefit.  


and on that note. you've been platooning with some rather skilled players. of course you're going to carry  games hard with that many veterans  


AND THANK YOU DEVS for giving me a better tier 9 medium than that toilet known as the tier 9 panther II, which at tier 8 is actually a very fun tank :)

OddKilla #265 Posted Oct 06 2011 - 20:14

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I'm new to the E-50, just put the turret on so I'm still using the (tier7?) 88mm/L71. So far very pleased with everything except the gun, loved the L71 on the panther-II but just not enough punch for a tier9.

kampfer91 #266 Posted Oct 13 2011 - 23:12

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Drooling over an E-50 right now , my T54 .....i can't have fun with it , low damage , low penetration , shoot too fast that my ammo 's depletion rate is **** , speed is good ...
i have seen an E-50 1 shot a 212 , how **** is that  :o

KFAJ #267 Posted Oct 13 2011 - 23:59

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View Postrshoaf883, on Aug 14 2011 - 14:24, said:

Yes, it's final engine is 1200 hp, but it's beginning engine is 750 hp, and stats on the beginning engine state that it can do 60 kph with it.. not gonna happen. If you right click on a Tank in the Tech Tree, those are the stats as the vehicle is currently equipped.  And even with it's 1200 final engine, it's Horse Power to Weight ratio is only 20:1.. which would put it at the lower end of the spectrum for modern MBT's with much more advanced transmissions and suspensions.
That speed you're whining about is the tank's listed TOP speed. That means that with the beginning SUSPENSION, not the engine, the tank can max out at 60kph. It doesn't say that it would. And for that matter, if you want to talk about power to weight ratios, imagine how fast T-28s would go if their speed cap wasn't at 44kph.

NTRabbit #268 Posted Oct 18 2011 - 15:49

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I have an E-50, and to be honest I'm pretty disappointed with it.

It's not even a medium tank - if you try to play it like a medium tank, you just die horribly every time, it's completely incapable of flanking. The only way to play it is to pretend it's a King Tiger with a higher top speed, and hope the artillery doesn't smack you if you try to snipe.

Ronin0985 #269 Posted Oct 18 2011 - 18:49

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I'm currently grinding towards it, but seriously nerf the front plate a little.

DingBat #270 Posted Oct 18 2011 - 18:55

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I actually think the devs have got a pretty decent balance in the tier 9 mediums.

T54: Fast and tough
Patton: Hard hitting, great gun depression, great vision range
E50: Hard hitting and reasonably tough

All have strengths. All have weaknesses. I don't fear any of the others in my Patton, but I don't discount them either.

MacDougal #271 Posted Oct 18 2011 - 19:06

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I used to rage at the E-50 until I realized it wasn't really a medium tank.  It is frustrating to try to damage one with lesser tier tank though.  Mediums shouldn't be THAT buff.

hiroshi_tea #272 Posted Oct 18 2011 - 19:10

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I only do bad most of the time in my E-50 because I try and play it like my T-54.   That and the team with the IS-7 usually loses and I'm usually on that team

The tier 9 mediums have a bit more tier weight added to them in the MM simply because they're that good

6_Demon_Bag #273 Posted Oct 18 2011 - 19:57

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View PostRonin0985, on Oct 18 2011 - 18:49, said:

I'm currently grinding towards it, but seriously nerf the front plate a little.

Keep your ideas about my front plate to yourself buddy.  :Smile-izmena:

AK_Stalker #274 Posted Oct 19 2011 - 18:26

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View PostNTRabbit, on Oct 18 2011 - 15:49, said:

I have an E-50, and to be honest I'm pretty disappointed with it.

It's not even a medium tank - if you try to play it like a medium tank, you just die horribly every time, it's completely incapable of flanking. The only way to play it is to pretend it's a King Tiger with a higher top speed, and hope the artillery doesn't smack you if you try to snipe.

You have 10 games in the E-50.  Come back when you have 100 and then if you still think it's no good, the problem isn't the tank.

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View PostAK_Stalker, on Oct 19 2011 - 18:26, said:

You have 10 games in the E-50.  Come back when you have 100 and then if you still think it's no good, the problem isn't the tank.
Agree.

FuzzyWhale #276 Posted Oct 25 2011 - 20:18

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I started down the American medium line before the new tech trees were announced.  After reading through this thread I'm startling to think that I made a reeaaaalllyy bad choice.  Those E-50s just point their front towards my Pershing and I'm doomed.  My question is this: How does the Patton stack up against the E-50?

Landsraad #277 Posted Oct 25 2011 - 21:51

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View PostFuzzyWhale, on Oct 25 2011 - 20:18, said:

I started down the American medium line before the Patton OR the E-50.  After reading through this thread I'm startling to think that I made a reeaaaalllyy bad choice.  Those E-50s just point their front towards my Pershing and I'm doomed.  My question is this: How does the Patton stack up against the E-50?
The Patton and E-50 seem rather balanced to me.  The Patton is squishier, but also more maneuverable.  A smart Patton can easily defeat an E-50 up close, while a dumb one at any range is what an E-50 calls "lunch". It's just my luck I always run into the smart Pattons that gang up and get me in a three-on-one peek-a-boo match.  :rolleyes:

MaxL_1023 #278 Posted Oct 26 2011 - 17:42

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I find it ridiculous that I can be out-turned by Russian heavies though. Don't even TRY to circle strafe with an E-50 - the heavies hull front will usually keep up with you let alone the turret as well.

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View PostNTRabbit, on Oct 18 2011 - 15:49, said:

I have an E-50, and to be honest I'm pretty disappointed with it.

It's not even a medium tank - if you try to play it like a medium tank, you just die horribly every time, it's completely incapable of flanking. The only way to play it is to pretend it's a King Tiger with a higher top speed, and hope the artillery doesn't smack you if you try to snipe.

Yea it is a pocket heavy until you get the last engine then the play style completely changes. When you get the last engine you will be able to flank.

Upgraded the E-50 is a great tank to support the whole map it has the speed and firepower to plug holes, stop breakthroughs, and exploit openings when they appear.

The 105 and last engine make this tank.

Armor #280 Posted Oct 27 2011 - 18:50

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View PostMaxMike, on Oct 26 2011 - 17:55, said:


The 105 and last engine make this tank.


100% correct. If you don't have either, don't bother commenting about the E-50.




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