TheBattleMaster8, on Mar 23 2017 - 05:58, said:
I never said high wn8 players are detriments, and I never meant to say that they aren't winning the majority of the games and/or not doing most of the damage. I'm trying to say I absolutely can't stand HOW most of them do it. When I watch quickybaby, he is actively on the front line, not necessarily assisting team mates non-stop, but he's there. However, when I join random games, I'd say 8/10 of the, let's say blue, or higher wn8 players are not on the front line, and absolutely not assisting team-mates. Instead they are camping, and using team-mates as bait for either spotting, or to draw fire away from them. Don't get me wrong, I know that both of those have their uses, and obviously do garner wins. But wins CAN and HAVE been made by players with a little more morals than most of you. And the biggest point I was trying to make, camping and using friendlies as bait takes a very small amount of actual measurable skill. But since wn8 is commonly regarded as a measure of one's skills, many players are succumbing to the camping, hiding, running tactics that facilities wn8 gains. All of this was, more or less, summarized when I said this game is now a camp fest.
Well that is exactly what I was saying. You are an idiot if you don't think this game is p2w. The fact that this game is p2w could not possibly be made any more apparent.
I think you are missing the point i'm trying to make. You play to win the game. If not being on the front lines increases my team's chance of winning, then for that moment in the game i'm not. But roles change frequently in matches. Making blanket statements like 'durr they have to be on the frontlines to really contribute' only illuminates what caliber of player you are. See once you get good, you stop pigeonholing roles; aka "i'm a sniper, i'm in a sniping tank, snipers sit and snipe from the back". Instead you play to whatever role the team needs at the moment. That is why you will find me sniping in a TD, or brawling in a city with the heavies in a TD... Or I take mediums in brawling lanes, etc. I can do just about anything with any kind of tank depending on the situation, and you have to if you want to win.
What could be a better teammate than one that helps ensure the team you are on wins? I ask that because people around your ability often question what I do, or how I play, yell that I don't save them, or i abandon an area... but it is a calculated decision where I had to weigh my options and decide on one which i felt would increase the odds of winning. Remember, i'm not a dumb pubbie, I have to value myself higher than you... as bad as that sounds, it is the truth. My taking more damage or risking my life to save yours can sometimes be useful, but more often than not, you won't go on to be a rockstar and carry the game; but i might.
Saying all that though; i know, and good players know that a dead teammate doesn't have a lot of value, so I work very hard to keep people alive. Often they are oblivious to what i'm doing for them, but I am trying... keeping guns in the game is important. As mentioned earlier, i'm about WINNING, and 15v1 isn't going to bring me a lot of wins. You simply aren't good enough yet to recognize all these types of decisions players like me have to make.
Edited by scharnhorst310, Today, 09:49 PM.