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Mustang197109 #21 Posted Mar 14 2017 - 21:30

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I have always said.... provinces go into revolt and can be attacked by anyone, so, why not have landing zones go into revolt so land owners can attack it. Once the revolt is over, the landing zone would go back to normal.

 

Not sure if this would help but at least the land owner would have the opportunity, albeit every 20th day or so, to attack a clan that was spamming them from a landing zone.

 

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zuquizu #22 Posted Mar 14 2017 - 21:36

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what is chip spam?

i never do clan wars, i want try clan wars, but im a bad player with not much time for play



liamcraig1245 #23 Posted Mar 14 2017 - 21:52

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View PostMustang197109, on Mar 14 2017 - 21:30, said:

I have always said.... provinces go into revolt and can be attacked by anyone, so, why not have landing zones go into revolt so land owners can attack it. Once the revolt is over, the landing zone would go back to normal.

 

Not sure if this would help but at least the land owner would have the opportunity, albeit every 20th day or so, to attack a clan that was spamming them from a landing zone.

 

Thoughts?

 

 

Yeah that's an idea just something to get these pesky clans off of the landing zones or to reduce the overall number of battles. 

Yankee #24 Posted Mar 15 2017 - 00:21

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I think when you lose an LZ, a 24 hr lane to retake it should open.  The mechanic is in place to open and close lanes of attack, it would be a simple change

Hurk #25 Posted Mar 15 2017 - 00:35

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replace clamwars with ranked battles. replace gold income with silver. 

everyone gets what they want: 

skill based match making

a mode where you can prevent certain maps. 

a mode where arty is not an issue. 

 



WhatsThisBoxFor #26 Posted Mar 15 2017 - 00:42

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So the problem with CW is that you have to be active? Damn that's unfortunate.

NeatoMan #27 Posted Mar 15 2017 - 01:27

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or you could just not play so many battles a day, hold a little less territory, accept less gold as a clan, and save yourself the stress. 

liamcraig1245 #28 Posted Mar 15 2017 - 01:31

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View PostNeatoMan, on Mar 15 2017 - 01:27, said:

or you could just not play so many battles a day, hold a little less territory, accept less gold as a clan, and save yourself the stress. 

 

I have over 50 active members that participate in clan wars each week, giving them 20 gold a week doesn't keep them active and around. The fact that a clan needs to hold 15-16 territories on the tier 8 map to make 2000 gold a day is sad.

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View Postliamcraig1245, on Mar 14 2017 - 13:15, said:

 

Yeah sure we can field the teams to fight these battles, the point being though if I were to pull off the map and go around doing missions and being a pirate I would make the same if not more gold than I do now, but without the whole 5 battles a day. All I would have to do is missions and ransack one territory a day whether that be a tier 8 or 10. I think the big picture here is that clan wars are simply broken, I mean how many clans have you seen fall apart because clan wars simply are no longer worth doing for every clan except 5-10 clans. The list is quite long and you know just as many people as I do that have left the game due to a competitive atmosphere that completely burns one out and no longer rewards them at all, and that's the sad reality,

 

Then I think you have your answer....

 

 

YAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR....



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View Postliamcraig1245, on Mar 14 2017 - 19:31, said:

I have over 50 active members that participate in clan wars each week, giving them 20 gold a week doesn't keep them active and around. The fact that a clan needs to hold 15-16 territories on the tier 8 map to make 2000 gold a day is sad.

Greedy bastages.  When I played in CW we never made a dime, but played as much as we wanted.   Nobody complained about the stress.   The problem is that some people want to hang onto as much as possible, even at the expense of fun.    It's their own damn fault if they play themselves into oblivion.

 



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View Postliamcraig1245, on Mar 14 2017 - 17:31, said:

I have over 50 active members that participate in clan wars each week, giving them 20 gold a week doesn't keep them active and around. The fact that a clan needs to hold 15-16 territories on the tier 8 map to make 2000 gold a day is sad.

its free money.... everyone else has to pay money for it.

 

this is why they need to remove gold from clamwars.



liamcraig1245 #32 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 01:05

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View PostHurk, on Mar 15 2017 - 01:44, said:

its free money.... everyone else has to pay money for it.

 

this is why they need to remove gold from clamwars.

 

Not free money if you make 20 cents a week playing 10 hours a week for clan wars, I think that is more akin to slavery than it is to free money. Prison labor isnt free money for prisoners its the modern equivalent of slavery, is this much different? 

Yu86 #33 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 06:06

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I chip spam others, but when I grab a "gold-pot", everyone should stop doing it. Logic?!

Gohibniu #34 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 14:16

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View PostWinterBurn, on Mar 14 2017 - 14:15, said:

 

POTUS 45's speechwriter plays WOT?

BOOM!



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View Postliamcraig1245, on Mar 14 2017 - 14:31, said:

 

Meh 2-3 battles a night for 7k gold a night is a decent deal. Because we aren't as experienced/skilled we have 5-6 battles a night for 1k gold. Before massive series of nerfs to clan wars we used to be able to make about 3k a night with maybe 3-4 battles which made it fun and worthwhile, but now it is ridiculous. If 90% of clans can make more gold per player doing the call to arms for 1 hour than they can clan wars for 7 days, you know the system is flawed and not working. 

 

I know it's horrible, 1000 FREE GOLD for playing 6 battles, what are they gonna do next give us a free tank for just logging in or a free tank for few missions?!

Hurk #36 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 17:43

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View Postliamcraig1245, on Mar 20 2017 - 17:05, said:

Not free money if you make 20 cents a week playing 10 hours a week for clan wars, I think that is more akin to slavery than it is to free money. Prison labor isnt free money for prisoners its the modern equivalent of slavery, is this much different? 

the point is they are asking for the reward to be ramped back up to something significant, like it was in the bad old days where most clam wars events past with only landing defense and the world carved up through diplomacy, that left a completely stagnent map, a few really rich clams, that had so much extra gold that they were spamming gold rounds in pub matches.. back when they were available for gold only. 

 

im glad those days are gone. events rewarding gold is bad enough. having a few privileged brats with no financial investment in the game, and also being completely free of the normal game concerns like grinds, etc, was stupid, is stupid, and should never happen again. 



_cthulhu_ #37 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 19:52

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View PostHurk, on Mar 15 2017 - 11:35, said:

replace clamwars with ranked battles. replace gold income with silver. 

everyone gets what they want: 

skill based match making

a mode where you can prevent certain maps. 

a mode where arty is not an issue. 

 

 

You mean air strikes and off board arty only? That isn't enough to dig out some of the super heavy turtle strats.

Take away gold income and no one will be interested, SH box farming will be all you need.

 

Keep coming with the ideas.

 

To the OP you have a lot of property... expect to get spammed...



_cthulhu_ #38 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 20:03

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View PostHurk, on Mar 22 2017 - 04:43, said:

the point is they are asking for the reward to be ramped back up to something significant, like it was in the bad old days where most clam wars events past with only landing defense and the world carved up through diplomacy, that left a completely stagnent map, a few really rich clams, that had so much extra gold that they were spamming gold rounds in pub matches.. back when they were available for gold only. 

 

im glad those days are gone. events rewarding gold is bad enough. having a few privileged brats with no financial investment in the game, and also being completely free of the normal game concerns like grinds, etc, was stupid, is stupid, and should never happen again. 

 

Hmmm sounds like you are pro pay-to-win.

 

It has been several years that it's been premium for credits, it seems crazy to want to go back to premium for gold only and then remove any incentive for high tier competitive play, in addition to denying access to gold for average players.

 



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OP - That image you posted only equals 2 battles at a time due to the offset of the provinces involved and 2 separate time zones. It used to be a lot worse when all battles were on the hour unless you were willing to pay to have them offset. Having set provinces offset by 15 minutes have made things a bit easier on clans that can only field 25-30 players at a time. 

 

I do agree that there needs to be something done with the landing provinces. I think getting rid of the whole revolt thing, and have the landing provinces change every 2-3 days would be a step in the right direction. That way it is less likely that a clan is going to take a landing and then just sit there and spam battles around them for days on end. Since a clan holding land around the landing can not attack the landing, there is not much you can do except have a partner clan that does not hold land just attack the landing. That is only a temporary fix as they have to leave the province if they want to attack a landing the next night. 






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