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Strike_Witch_Tomoko #1 Posted Mar 17 2017 - 20:51

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so since WG is making "pros"  say its apparently fair

http://worldoftanks..../obj252-review/

 

i decided to show how its doing on average(just cause i get my jolly's off blowing WG's argument full of holes)

 

and i never thought i'd see the day when i prefered IS-3 spam over something else..

but yeah....its easier to fight IS-3 than obj 252u.   so you guys wont see me saying BIAS-3 anymore*   (unless they buff it cause lolz balance)


first up.  Tier 8 Avg DMG

http://www.vbaddict....e_dealt&server=

 

Obj252U holds the 1st and 3rd positions.  with IS-5 somehow holding 2nd.(but thats a cw reward tank.  so they tend to know what they doing.   IS-5 is also the only pike nose capable of giving obj 252u's gun a problem on its turret and upper plate.    but only when straight on)

 


2nd up.  Tier 8 avg dmg recieved without dmg.   theres a surprise contender here

http://www.vbaddict....tsratio&server=

 

obj 252U holds 3rd and 5th 

with vk 100.01p holding first (no surprise. check out the armor of that thing.  its the definition of brick wall)

112 (surprise.....or not?  it doesnt see tier 10....)

and mutant(no surprise)

 


win rate,  tends to be heavily affected by the skill of people using it and the number in use.

so i'm going to ignore the cw reward tanks.

http://www.vbaddict....t_ratio&server=

 

1st and 2nd and 3rd.  CW reward

4th. vk 100.01p 

5th and 9th. obj 252U

 

but at least some normal tanks got between 5th and 9th right?  eh....wz-111 surprisingly, emil,  mutant.

 

so no....

 

oh and everyone who bought amx m4 49

yeah.  why use that PoC over 252U.


now there are a variety of reasons accuracy can differ,  from bad guns, to slow shell speed,  to range you tend to fire at....

 

but there does tend to be a reason people call russian bias accuracy.

http://www.vbaddict....t_ratio&server=

252u holds 2nd and 3rd.      for something with "bad accuracy"  thats depressing for every medium tank in tier 8

 

but then again, maps can be to blame for that as well....as they cater to heavies with tunnels.

 

 

 

 

 

 

oky thats my feedback done.   

 

and my suggestion, is to play the game before you add tanks whose armor make IS-7 cry foul. 2 tiers lower......

 

and to keep in mind +2/-2 MM means tier 6s and 7s see tier 8.    and even their gold rounds are gonna be a joke.

 



BattleField_JM #2 Posted Mar 17 2017 - 20:59

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Agreed

TheAngelOfRoses #3 Posted Mar 17 2017 - 21:32

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You know. I was debating either getting the 252U or the SkorpG as a credit earner... but it honestly seems like the 252U does EVERYTHING good. Wonder if i should pick it up instead :(

truecanuck #4 Posted Mar 17 2017 - 21:48

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I have the defender and see mostly toer 10 matches

jo5419 #5 Posted Mar 17 2017 - 22:12

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its balanced bois  everything in the game works great bois the tk system is fine and the back of the jag dont disappear shells when you are behing him

Serb say so

 

 

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TanksR_Epic2 #6 Posted Mar 17 2017 - 22:16

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They probably bribed those "pros" with like 10k USD to say it was fair. Let's be honest, if we were in that position we would call the 252 a fair tank too.

nickalaso123 #7 Posted Mar 17 2017 - 22:31

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Never thought I see the day when t8 became more toxic than the wastedump it already was with skorps flooding it, then the defender came along...

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View Posttruecanuck, on Mar 17 2017 - 16:48, said:

I have the defender and see mostly toer 10 matches

 

exactly. I have the same situation, and it is a joke. three tier MM is questionable anyways, and a tier 8 premium that mainly is fed to Maus & co is ridiculous. 

Strike_Witch_Tomoko #9 Posted Mar 20 2017 - 05:01

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View PostHagendansk, on Mar 19 2017 - 20:39, said:

 

exactly. I have the same situation, and it is a joke. three tier MM is questionable anyways, and a tier 8 premium that mainly is fed to Maus & co is ridiculous. 

 

at least you got 226 pen

 

how many tier 8s see tier 10 with under 190.

or under 200

 

how many tier 8s see tier 10 with no armor (compare to obj 252u whose armor exceeds that of IS-7.  who is already pretty decently armored for a tier 10,  so compare obj 252u armor wise to...oh say a tiger 2.  or T32.  or IS-3A, or hell....a KV-4)



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View PostStrike_Witch_Tomoko, on Mar 19 2017 - 22:01, said:

 

at least you got 226 pen

 

how many tier 8s see tier 10 with under 190.

or under 200

 

how many tier 8s see tier 10 with no armor (compare to obj 252u whose armor exceeds that of IS-7.  who is already pretty decently armored for a tier 10,  so compare obj 252u armor wise to...oh say a tiger 2.  or T32.  or IS-3A, or hell....a KV-4)

 

some do have pref mm and do not meet tier 10 the ones that have lesser pen are usually mediums or heavies with pref mm. The tank may do good at tier8 but at higher tiers it can be easily be taken down just like the O-i can even though it has the best armor at tier 6 it is easily killed by higher tiers. I do believe that premium tanks will be buffed to be in line with this tank along with their regular tier 8 couterparts. This has been the trend of the last two patches and I believe it will continue for the rest of the year. This tank may look op now but it will be powercreeped like the is-6 is now by something even more op than this. The real question is how long till people get tired of seeing op tanks? The defender does have weakspots  mainly the lower frontal is 218 effective while the 112 and wz-111 have 200 and 170 effective lower plates respectively and they have pref mm. I think the community is just not used to seeing premiums suited to face tier 10 tanks and not just tier 8 and 9 tanks. I would love to see older prems get buffed maybe this tank is a test for 122mm guns in general. This tank is designed to face tier 10's not just tier 8 and 9's that is the biggest difference between this tank and older prems. Only the Lowe was nonpref mm at the start it has a gun suitable for facing higher tiers like the 252 and the patriot tank. The people saying the object 252 is op are not seeing the bigger picture this is a non pref mm tank so it needs to be stronger to face tier 10 tanks.

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View Posttruecanuck, on Mar 17 2017 - 14:48, said:

I have the defender and see mostly toer 10 matches

 

same rarely in a tier 8 match

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View PostStrike_Witch_Tomoko, on Mar 20 2017 - 00:01, said:

 

at least you got 226 pen

 

how many tier 8s see tier 10 with under 190.

or under 200

 

True dat. I have been against three tier MM always - it makes no sense, except for those who play tier X.... xD



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View Postlandedkiller, on Mar 19 2017 - 21:20, said:

 

some do have pref mm and do not meet tier 10 the ones that have lesser pen are usually mediums or heavies with pref mm. The tank may do good at tier8 but at higher tiers it can be easily be taken down just like the O-i can even though it has the best armor at tier 6 it is easily killed by higher tiers. I do believe that premium tanks will be buffed to be in line with this tank along with their regular tier 8 couterparts. This has been the trend of the last two patches and I believe it will continue for the rest of the year. This tank may look op now but it will be powercreeped like the is-6 is now by something even more op than this. The real question is how long till people get tired of seeing op tanks? The defender does have weakspots  mainly the lower frontal is 218 effective while the 112 and wz-111 have 200 and 170 effective lower plates respectively and they have pref mm. I think the community is just not used to seeing premiums suited to face tier 10 tanks and not just tier 8 and 9 tanks. I would love to see older prems get buffed maybe this tank is a test for 122mm guns in general. This tank is designed to face tier 10's not just tier 8 and 9's that is the biggest difference between this tank and older prems. Only the Lowe was nonpref mm at the start it has a gun suitable for facing higher tiers like the 252 and the patriot tank. The people saying the object 252 is op are not seeing the bigger picture this is a non pref mm tank so it needs to be stronger to face tier 10 tanks.

 

T32 says hi.  198 pen.

where does it shoot obj 262 U with its .41 accuracy.

oh right.  it needs gold to pen lower plate.

 

should i look at the tier 7s who will see obj 252u

how about the tier 6s

 

wow the tier spread is getting more and more unbareable.

 

 






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