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T-34/100...worth leaving the T-25 for?


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Prof_Fate #1 Posted Mar 18 2017 - 22:55

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With but a few exceptions, I've never been one to keep the old tank upon moving up to the new tank.  I am loving the T-25 (its one of the top meds at its tier), but I would like to move up the Czech line; however, from what I am seeing in-game, the T-34/100 doesn't look that great.  Is the T-34/100 yet another WG induced 'miserable grind' or 'pay money to advance out of' tank?

Rin_ #2 Posted Mar 18 2017 - 23:01

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T-24/100 is pretty okay. Alpha is nice, pen is decent, gun handling is surprisingly good. The problem is you have tier 5 hull armor, and a tier 6 turret on a tier 7 tank.

Zepherex #3 Posted Mar 18 2017 - 23:05

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It's one of the better tier 7 meds, but like all of them there's no good tank in the game that is a tier 7 medium.

alexanderme #4 Posted Mar 18 2017 - 23:16

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The gun is, quite frankly, not something you want on a tier 7 medium. It has significantly worse DPM than basically the same gun on the tier 6 kv-85, with very slightly better aim time. I'll tell you the aimtime feels far worse than it seems on paper, and even with similarly skilled crews the T-150's gun seems to aim faster. It also has quite bad hp/t for a medium of only 15.29, which is actually worse than the IS. If you compare to the T-43, it has slightly more alpha and pen at the expense of literally everything else: armor, hp/t, aimtime, accuracy, dpm, gun depression, etc.

So yeah the T-34-100 is a stinker since it's slightly worse than other tier 7 mediums, which are already mostly below average. The only tier 7 meds I'd keep are the t20, maybe comet, and panther if you like to ram stuff.

 

The tier 8 doesn't look much better, it's just a worse panther II.



jd1986 #5 Posted Mar 18 2017 - 23:18

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T34/100 is a fun tank. Good gun tier 8 not so much.

Harkonen_siegetank #6 Posted Mar 19 2017 - 00:35

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Tip: Get the upgraded turret.

 

The tank is ok, nothing to shout for. 



BogusBadger #7 Posted Mar 19 2017 - 00:37

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No reason to get or keep the 34/100.  KV-13, T20, and panther are all better.

Harkonen_siegetank #8 Posted Mar 19 2017 - 01:27

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View PostBogusBadger, on Mar 18 2017 - 18:37, said:

No reason to get or keep the 34/100.  KV-13, T20, and panther are all better.

 

Keep yeah, no reason. Get? It's for the 50/51.

BogusBadger #9 Posted Mar 19 2017 - 03:57

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View PostHarkonen_siegetank, on Mar 18 2017 - 19:27, said:

 

Keep yeah, no reason. Get? It's for the 50/51.

 

Yeah I phrased that poorly

Gothraul #10 Posted Mar 19 2017 - 05:38

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If you can make it work it can carry well when top tier but at times it is expensive to run, managed a patrol duty and a HC in the same battle in it once lol. The armor it has is for the most part meaningless and the gun is a major struggle but that is something you have to learn to cope with as the TVP VTU is all the same.

1Thorn12 #11 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 06:02

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The only reason to play the T-34/100 is to get to the T50 and T50/51. With that said, it's neither terrible nor particularly great. It's basically a tier 5 medium with the gun and HP of a tier 7. Try to avoid playing it stock; while stock, it is a stock T-34-85 at one tier higher, which is very painful even when top tier because the gun handling and DPM are so bad. At the moment, I have 46 battles in it with a 52% win rate and 803 average damage with a 89% crew. Much of this is because I kept the T-25 and put a new crew into the T-34/100, and because I played about 25 battles while stock to see what it was like before I stopped and saved up free XP to get the top gun. In the past 10 battles, I have a 60% win rate and have averaged about 1500 damage (about 6 penetrating, non-killing hits per game). So, not great, but not terrible either. Most of these were tier 8 and tier 9 matches also, so it can hold its own even when not driven by a superunicum. 

Since getting the 100mm, I tend to play it as a very mobile turreted-TD: 2nd and 3rd line support in the beginning and take pot shots at distracted enemies towards the middle of the match. It's not very accurate, but its accuracy is good enough when aimed in and its penetration is good (175 on AP, 250 on HEAT). It also has terrible soft stats on the gun handling, so it takes several seconds to aim-in medium to long-range shots. Gun depression is also bad, which is mitigated by firing long distance or very short distances on flat ground. Obviously, do not try cresting ridges to pull off snap shots unless you are fairly confident you won't be getting shot at. The T-34/100 is a tier 5 hull that doesn't have any armor to bounce anything. The turret is also soft and cannot be relied upon. Thus, you want to avoid being shot at. To exasperate the armor situation, the T-34/100 is not particularly fast, so it struggles to get out of trouble. 

 

On paper, it really seems as if the T-34/100 has nothing going for it. And it really doesn't. Since its only strengths are penetration and alpha, the T-34/100 player has to be careful about how, when, and what it engages. It is not a very forgiving machine. However, since penetration and alpha are its only strengths (and it is pretty strong in those regards), it can also be fairly consistent regardless of match up. Overall, now that the stock grind is over, I kind of enjoy the T-34/100. It's not a keeper for me, but it's also not the worst thing I have played. If you do decide to advance up the Czech line, save up free XP to get the gun (16,550 XP), tracks (8,100 XP), and maybe turret (additional 7,900 XP). Note that you can't mount the top gun with the stock tracks.






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