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gloom13 #41 Posted Mar 19 2017 - 19:14

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View PostSinsOfWrath, on Mar 19 2017 - 19:09, said:

He asked!  To most including me that's enough to let the guy have it.  Its called being a generous person.  

 

He didn't he demanded. Do you know how we know? His squad started shooting team mates when after he "asked" he didn't get it.

You cant be generous to a robber - it wasn't even begging, it was robbery backed up by intention to team kill if refused.



gloom13 #42 Posted Mar 19 2017 - 19:17

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View PostHorribad_At_Tanks, on Mar 19 2017 - 19:13, said:

 

So I guess the 5 kills were just dumb luck as the cat walked on his keyboard. What if he had already wore the sixth tank down to a one shot who slipped around a corner and some no damage pubbie in a faster tank was gunning for the kill. Still same attitude?

 

I have 0 problems  with anyone killing an enemy tank ever. The last thing I want to see is the enemy getting their mojo back and going for a kolobanov after someone spared them. if You can kill and enemy tank KILL IT. And lets be clear on average it will be me with 5 kills and apossible 6th and not a random team mate, and i still say - if its red shoot it.

 

Also this is a platoon of team killers. Lets say someone tell you to give them a kill in wot and if you don't they team kill you. Will you give it to them? Cause that is what actually happened in this case. "Still same attitude?" 



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View PostKaa1el, on Mar 19 2017 - 13:36, said:

Today on Fiery Salient map, both IS-7 and I driving in the Strv tier 9 td were having a good game. He had 5 kills, I had 3, we both did 4k-ish damage. Enemy team had one last guy left, a JpE-100 on hill. The IS-7 asks if he could get that top gun, nobody answered. I already pre-aimed at JpE-100's whereabouts, once he was spotted, I got the kill. Then his mate E-100 just TKed me right before the end. So I am asking why players like IS-7 and E-100 righteously thinks any 5-kill player should entitled for the final kill? Why players like me shall yield the final kill? Shouldn't any medal being earned instead of being asked?

 



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If the guy on 5 has a shot I'll usually let them get first crack, otherwise just finish out the game. Never hurts to get a few karma points. 

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View PostHowitzerBlitzer, on Mar 19 2017 - 19:17, said:

 

 

Man, you remind me of how much I miss Killswitch. At least he could [edited]post properly and not come off like some tryhard wannabe.

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View Postgloom13, on Mar 19 2017 - 13:17, said:

 

I have 0 problems  with anyone killing an enemy tank ever. The last thing I want to see is the enemy getting their mojo back and going for a kolobanov after someone spared them. if You can kill and enemy tank KILL IT. And lets be clear on average it will be me with 5 kills and apossible 6th and not a random team mate, and i still say - if its red shoot it.

 

Also this is a platoon of team killers. Lets say someone tell you to give them a kill in wot and if you don't they team kill you. Will you give it to them? Cause that is what actually happened in this case. "Still same attitude?" 

 

I'd have given the 6th kill because the odds of that one shot tank coming back and winning the match are fairly remote and I could care less about stats or medals. If he asked nicely and he was nearly in position to take the shot then sure let him have it. Why so greedy for a kill on a one shot tank anyways? As to the analogy of the platoon of team killers we are getting a bit outside the norm are we?

gloom13 #47 Posted Mar 19 2017 - 19:23

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View PostGasai__Yuno, on Mar 19 2017 - 19:11, said:

Such a ' large matter ' made from mere ' top gun ' there....

Oh my....

 

 

But Indeed, PEOPLE HAVE TO LEARN

TO EARN SOMETHING FOR ONCE.

 

I WANT IT NOW!

Mentality takes you NOWHERE.

 

Please post a replay or two of you in e-25 shooting things. I would really like to see an e-25 at its best being awesome.

gloom13 #48 Posted Mar 19 2017 - 19:26

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View PostHorribad_At_Tanks, on Mar 19 2017 - 19:22, said:

 

If he asked nicely ...

 

Did he ask nicely? If it was a "nice" request why did team killing commence right after? on a scale from 0 to Mr Rogers how "nice" is a platoon of team killers demanding kills and then killing team mates when refused?



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View Postgloom13, on Mar 19 2017 - 13:26, said:

 

Did he ask nicely? If it was a "nice" request why did team killing commence right after? on a scale from 0 to Mr Rogers how "nice" is a platoon of team killers demanding kills and then killing team mates when refused?

 

Asking nicely and being a mouth breather afterward are not mutually exclusive.  

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View PostKliphie, on Mar 19 2017 - 19:28, said:

 

Asking nicely and being a mouth breather afterward are not mutually exclusive.  

 

Ah yes, the ol' "Asking m'lady out and then throw a tantrum if she says no"-technique.

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View PostKliphie, on Mar 19 2017 - 19:28, said:

 

Asking nicely and being a mouth breather afterward are not mutually exclusive.  

 

if someone asks you for a smoke and you say no and walk by - that was someone asking.

if someone asks you for a smoke and you say no and they shoot you - that was a robbery.



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View Postgloom13, on Mar 19 2017 - 19:26, said:

 

Did he ask nicely? If it was a "nice" request why did team killing commence right after? on a scale from 0 to Mr Rogers how "nice" is a platoon of team killers demanding kills and then killing team mates when refused?

 

OP got TK'ed because everyone else who could have killed the last enemy didn't, they were all giving it. The OP shows up and kills it.

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Gloom,

 

The IS7 already answered in page one.  He, apparently, did not know either the E100 or Arty.  They were not 'mates'.  Thus, he was not demanding anything and the game was obviously already in hand - there was going to be no Kolobanov medal to be EARNED with all those tanks aiming in.  That medal WOULD HAVE BEEN FULLY EARNED.

 

Was this potential medal EARNED.  My guess is that at least some of the tanks killed by others were wounded by a guy with 4.8K damage and 5 kills.  My guess is that this guy did not farm damage by uselessly shooting a target once and then farming another plot of Tomatoes - he had 5 kills.  I think he EARNED it but luck prevented him from the final 1 shot.  I think the Arty EARNED that kill and he stood off.

 

You, apparently, played well too.  It would have been a good gesture of respect to stand aside for a few seconds and see what happened.  



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View PostTankFullOfBourbon, on Mar 19 2017 - 19:29, said:

 

OP got TK'ed because everyone else who could have killed the last enemy didn't, they were all giving it. The OP shows up and kills it.

 

Can you list all the other situations when team killing is ok?

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View PostDuqe, on Mar 19 2017 - 14:21, said:

Man, you remind me of how much I miss Killswitch. At least he could [edited]post properly and not come off like some tryhard wannabe.

Awww sweetie, you don't have to be jealous of my abilities. Here, eat a Snickers.



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View PostKaa1el, on Mar 19 2017 - 12:36, said:

Today on Fiery Salient map, both IS-7 and I driving in the Strv tier 9 td were having a good game. He had 5 kills, I had 3, we both did 4k-ish damage. Enemy team had one last guy left, a JpE-100 on hill. The IS-7 asks if he could get that top gun, nobody answered. I already pre-aimed at JpE-100's whereabouts, once he was spotted, I got the kill. Then his mate E-100 just TKed me right before the end. So I am asking why players like IS-7 and E-100 righteously thinks any 5-kill player should entitled for the final kill? Why players like me shall yield the final kill? Shouldn't any medal being earned instead of being asked?

 

Giving someone a Top Gun is like holding a door open for someone.  It's a courtesy and a kindness, right up until the moment that the other person demands that you do it.  Then he's just being a [edited].

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View PostWirbelfeld, on Mar 19 2017 - 17:47, said:

Its just being nice. Its the same deal with blocking for your teammates. You dont have to, and they probably dont deserve it because they prob threw their hitpoints away, but its just being nice, and it would be nice if someone else did the same for you in same situation

 

I would agree with this.

 

This is a TEAM game. And the rewards you have on your personal account may be personal rewards, but you earned them while on a TEAM.

 

And if I have plenty of damage and maybe a kill or two... and one other guy has 5 kills, and it's just one last enemy or an SPG, essentially... nothing that can threaten our win, hurt myself or any other teammates, etc- of course I'll be nice and let him chase down his 6th kill. No reason not to, and 300 damage or whatever the threshold is for the final kill isn't going to matter to me.



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View Postgloom13, on Mar 19 2017 - 18:12, said:

 

Not only did the other person care about the silly top gun, but also apparently felt so entitled that some team killing started when the "request"  was denied.

I guess it wasn't a request was it? It was a demand. In hind sight isn't it good that the kill wasn't given to a team killer who makes demands on their team mates?

 

 

 

You really have not read the whole thread have you?



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View PostDuqe, on Mar 19 2017 - 13:29, said:

 

Ah yes, the ol' "Asking m'lady out and then throw a tantrum if she says no"-technique.

 

View Postgloom13, on Mar 19 2017 - 13:29, said:

 

if someone asks you for a smoke and you say no and walk by - that was someone asking.

if someone asks you for a smoke and you say no and they shoot you - that was a robbery.

 

It's  Schrödinger's cat for WoT.  They're both an A-hole and a nice guy till you make your choice.  

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View PostBoghie, on Mar 19 2017 - 19:31, said:

Gloom,

 

The IS7 already answered in page one.  He, apparently, did not know either the E100 or Arty.  They were not 'mates'.  Thus, he was not demanding anything and the game was obviously already in hand - there was going to be no Kolobanov medal to be EARNED with all those tanks aiming in.  That medal WOULD HAVE BEEN FULLY EARNED.

 

Was this potential medal EARNED.  My guess is that at least some of the tanks killed by others were wounded by a guy with 4.8K damage and 5 kills.  My guess is that this guy did not farm damage by uselessly shooting a target once and then farming another plot of Tomatoes - he had 5 kills.  I think he EARNED it but luck prevented him from the final 1 shot.  I think the Arty EARNED that kill and he stood off.

 

You, apparently, played well too.  It would have been a good gesture of respect to stand aside for a few seconds and see what happened.  

 

I wouldn't immediately assume the IS-7 is being more truthful than OP without a replay being shown by either.




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