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rkana #1 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 00:11

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so, I have had my SU100Y for a while and I just noticed that the

1st shell AP PB-46 has a pen of 196 and 440 dmg

2nd shell - AP PB-46A premium ammo has a pen of 171 and 510 dmg

 

I had a clanmate check his and his was the same as mine.

 

is this right? am i missing something here?



Duqe #2 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 00:13

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Nope. You sacrifice penetration (which, 171mm is still pretty decent in tier 6 and 7 battles) for raw damage potential.

PanzerGruppenstaffe #3 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 00:14

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View Postrkana, on Mar 21 2017 - 00:11, said:

so, I have had my SU100Y for a while and I just noticed that the

1st shell AP PB-46 has a pen of 196 and 440 dmg

2nd shell - AP PB-46A premium ammo has a pen of 171 and 510 dmg

 

I had a clanmate check his and his was the same as mine.

 

is this right? am i missing something here?

 

Nope, not missing a thing.

 

Its not APCR, its HESH or HE I ferget which. It has less pen but more alpha.



rkana #4 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 00:15

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View PostDuqe, on Mar 21 2017 - 00:13, said:

Nope. You sacrifice penetration (which, 171mm is still pretty decent in tier 6 and 7 battles) for raw damage potential.

 

so, is this the only tank that does that?

most of my other tanks (I have not gone through them all) usually have a higher pen and lower dmg for premium ammo.



BigMeatHammer #5 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 00:18

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All tank ammo should have these give and takes IMO.

PanzerGruppenstaffe #6 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 00:26

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View Postrkana, on Mar 21 2017 - 00:15, said:

 

so, is this the only tank that does that?

most of my other tanks (I have not gone through them all) usually have a higher pen and lower dmg for premium ammo.

 

It depends on what type of premium ammo.

 

APCR/HEAT more pen, same damage.

 

HESH less pen, more damage.

 

HE much less pen, more damage.


Edited by PanzerGruppenstaffe, Mar 21 2017 - 00:26.


Treeburst #7 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 00:30

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View PostPanzerGruppenstaffe, on Mar 20 2017 - 18:14, said:

 

Nope, not missing a thing.

 

Its not APCR, its HESH or HE I ferget which. It has less pen but more alpha.

 

It is AP, just like the standard AP round is.

Jayrod413 #8 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 00:30

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View PostBigMeatHammer, on Mar 20 2017 - 23:18, said:

All tank ammo should have these give and takes IMO.

 

Except you know, the gold has the dmg penalty for more pen

TankNoob1960 #9 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 01:25

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Just shoot RED guys and stop worrying..

GL/HF

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MS06JZaku2 #10 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 01:28

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View Postrkana, on Mar 20 2017 - 23:15, said:

 

so, is this the only tank that does that?

most of my other tanks (I have not gone through them all) usually have a higher pen and lower dmg for premium ammo.

 

No Actually. The French ARL 44 and the AMX M4 45 after it deal 30 more damage with their premium round but WHILE getting a lot more pen. Only on the 105 mm guns though. It's a fun grind for those with lots of credits saved up. :)

HowitzerBlitzer #11 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 01:36

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View PostMS06JZaku2, on Mar 20 2017 - 20:28, said:

No Actually. The French ARL 44 and the AMX M4 45 after it deal 30 more damage with their premium round but WHILE getting a lot more pen. Only on the 105 mm guns though. It's a fun grind for those with lots of credits saved up. :)

 

You forgot the ARL V39 and S35 CA

Weslinator #12 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 01:39

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It is usually the APCR as premium ammo which has the higher pen but same amount of damage as the AP. HE has lower pen but a higher damage. Hope this helps

jo5419 #13 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 02:00

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View PostTankNoob1960, on Mar 21 2017 - 00:25, said:

Just shoot RED guys and stop worrying..

GL/HF

Gunny

 

were are my neg votes?

MS06JZaku2 #14 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 02:04

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View PostHowitzerBlitzer, on Mar 21 2017 - 00:36, said:

 

You forgot the ARL V39 and S35 CA

 

Oh, ok. Sorry, I never played those. Come to think of it, I don't know anyone who would play those with the state that line is in right now. :(

IndygoEEI #15 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 02:45

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View PostMS06JZaku2, on Mar 20 2017 - 17:04, said:

 

Oh, ok. Sorry, I never played those. Come to think of it, I don't know anyone who would play those with the state that line is in right now. :(

 

Go for the S35 and UE57.  They are the jewels in that line.  UE57 requires you grind crew for

camo though...



Gothraul #16 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 02:49

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I remember when this was the Box tank and that everyone in low and mid tiers along with the old KV-1S feared this tank but times changed a good ways back. May as well have a negative camo rating and it is a pain in the backside to play these days. Almost as long as a TOG and even taller with less armor....

 

Wished that I had bought the SU-76I for $7 when it was in the shop for a few hours. :(



Worland #17 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 04:30

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On the SU-100Y, both the standard AP round and the Premium AP round are actually Semi-Armor-Piercing (SAP) shells with an explosive filler. The Premium AP round has more explosive inside.

Other than balancing factors of some unknown nature, the Premium AP probably has less penetration due to less steel and more explosive. Of course, they give you more damage because of the bigger explosive charge.

RedBaronK #18 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 04:33

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Box tank is a weird creature...Can't make it an assault gun since it's paper, but can't camp bush and snipe cause radio range sux. 

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View PostRedBaronK, on Mar 21 2017 - 04:33, said:

Box tank is a weird creature...Can't make it an assault gun since it's paper, but can't camp bush and snipe cause radio range sux. 

 

Used to be a good assault gun back in 2014 and 2015 before the meta had gotten too fast, used to be able to club and punch well above its weight but those times are long gone.




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