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BlackFive #1 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 03:20

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I've seen some great 'how-to' videos over the years by some excellent players.  But typically, they're showing "How-To Carry Hard When Top Tiered!"  ... and while we all know we're watching a curated video of one amazing game in a series of merely good (or even bad) games... and that the 'amazing game' happens when PurplePlayer loads up a good tank and MM flops them a winning, map and tiering combo... they are still very useful in learning good spots, improving playstyles and decision making... while top- tiered.

 

What might be good for a lot of the developing players are 'What to Do when you're Bottom Tiered" videos.

 

I'd like to see some of those.  Like - how does a PurplePlayer keep excellent stats when he flops a merely good tank and gets under tiered.

- How to Play a Tier 7 Heavy in a Tier 9 game

- How aggressive should your Tier 8 Medium Play in a Tier X Game?

 

(Of course, if examples are already out there... I'd appreciate links!)



Ken_McGuire #2 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 03:38

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One of Uberdice's "How I Tanks" videos does go over being a bottom tier medium....

Bob_5000 #3 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 03:45

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Twitch streams also help as you see a typical day for unicums, even if some play mostly tier 10s, there are still periods of tier 8 prem grinds

BlackFive #4 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 03:49

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View PostBob_5000, on Mar 21 2017 - 03:45, said:

Twitch streams also help as you see a typical day for unicums, even if some play mostly tier 10s, there are still periods of tier 8 prem grinds

 

I thought about that... but I don't have a full afternoon to devote to watching a stream hoping for something like that... a 4-7 minute video?  Yeah, I have time for that.

 

@ Ken - I'll look for that.  Any others?

 



InvaderLyx #5 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 05:25

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It seems like they don't play < tier 10 tanks because they free xp past it.

 

And the few times they do play < tier 10 tanks, they load at least 50% premium shells. 



Lord_Hiney #6 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 05:47

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Check out guido1212, he talks about that in some of his videos.

Lemmingrush also sometimes does, both on stream and ocassionally in videos.

GAIMER #7 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 06:00

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Had this game a long time ago but it is what you asked for, sort of

Also have a replay. Ignore the fact im in a T8 LT as this can be done in a MT as well

http://wotreplays.co..._hpanzer_ru_251



swagglessboy #8 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 06:05

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I feel that most of the videos on YouTube or somewhere else where a Unicum will be bottom tier and totally carry are just cherry picked battles. You aren't going to get 2K or 3K damage consistently driving a tier 7 tank in a tier 9 battle.

1mp0ster #9 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 06:50

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Lemmingrush has a couple videos about what to do when you are bottom tier.

 

But yeah. I agree with OP. I stopped watching QB because I do not care about these amazing games where people line up and get killed for Medal. I want to see games and get player tips on how to play when you are on the bottom.



scyorkie #10 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 07:54

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You generally need an amazing game to showcase (i) the strengths of the tank and/or (ii) the skill of / decision-making by the player. Such games don't just happen to anybody playing in a turd tank every other game, and short-lived replays don't do much for entertainment / education as well.

 

If you are bottom tier, you generally want to support your higher tiers and keep your gun in the game, as opposed to hiding somewhere irrelevant waiting for everyone else to die, or yolo-ing to an early death and increasing the burden on your team. This requires awareness, and reading the intentions of both your allies, and the enemies you are facing.

 

I don't do videos, but this recent replay is an example of what I mean:

- I'm bottom tier in a T20 on Pilsen, and the enemies have 4x tier 9 mediums.

- This means that I can't survive long if I go to the field to face them (there aren't any flanking opportunities there).

- So I decide to help win the city area, thinking that our Tortoise and T95 will push the West.

- Those 2 however decide to sit in the middle of the map, forcing me to slow-play my flank.

- I start with an ambush position, while waiting for more enemies to show up on the map.

- Wherever I go, and whenever I engage someone, I make sure I have an ally nearby / assisting.

- If necessary, I fall back a bit, to bait the enemy into more friendly guns.

- I preserve my HP until the late game, which gives me the upper hand against anything still alive.

 

Edit: Here's another, this time of me in my T-34-85, again bottom tier on Pilsen. Same thought process as the replay above.


Edited by scyorkie, Mar 21 2017 - 15:42.


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View PostGAIMER, on Mar 21 2017 - 00:00, said:

Had this game a long time ago but it is what you asked for, sort of

Also have a replay. Ignore the fact im in a T8 LT as this can be done in a MT as well

http://wotreplays.co..._hpanzer_ru_251

 

Thats not a light tank...and nice shell tracer mod.

v_boy_ #12 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 08:37

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When a unicum play bottom tier , it will be stats pad

Duqe #13 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 10:06

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The answer is almost always "support the higher tier tanks from the back row", because that's consistently the most useful thing you could be doing. Keep yourself fairly clear of danger while helping them succeed.

Guido1212 #14 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 13:14

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I've got a few on my channel.  I'll try to find a couple of them and send you a link.

BlackFive #15 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 14:04

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View PostGuido1212, on Mar 21 2017 - 13:14, said:

I've got a few on my channel. I'll try to find a couple of them and send you a link.

 

Thanks! 



DreHead #16 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 17:07

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View PostInvaderLyx, on Mar 21 2017 - 04:25, said:

It seems like they don't play < tier 10 tanks because they free xp past it.

 

And the few times they do play < tier 10 tanks, they load at least 50% premium shells. 

 

'it seems' that you are just making stuff up

DreHead #17 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 17:10

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View PostRomuIus, on Mar 21 2017 - 07:18, said:

 

Thats not a light tank...and nice shell tracer mod.

 

if you were paying attention this is clearly pre-fairplay policy when these kinds of mods were banned


Edited by DreHead, Mar 21 2017 - 17:10.


Apache1990 #18 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 18:38

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View PostDreHead, on Mar 21 2017 - 11:10, said:

if you were paying attention this is clearly pre-fairplay policy when these kinds of mods were banned

 

Technically tracer mods haven't been allowed for like 5 years, except for basic stuff like changing the colors for ammo types and such (rather than duration).



DreHead #19 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 20:39

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View PostApache1990, on Mar 21 2017 - 17:38, said:

 

Technically tracer mods haven't been allowed for like 5 years, except for basic stuff like changing the colors for ammo types and such (rather than duration).

 

was it flat out banned though? i honestly can't remember what WG's stance on things like that was pre FPP.

Guido1212 #20 Posted Mar 21 2017 - 23:23

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View PostBlackFive, on Mar 21 2017 - 13:04, said:

 

Thanks! 

Here's one.

 






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