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Poll: Russian Bias, is it Tinfoil or Truth? (126 members have cast votes)

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Is Russian Bias Real?

  1. Russian Bias is Truth. (88 votes [69.84%])

    Percentage of vote: 69.84%

  2. Russian Bias is a Tinfoil excuse for weird RNG and crap players. (38 votes [30.16%])

    Percentage of vote: 30.16%

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supersolid #21 Posted Mar 22 2017 - 21:47

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View PostGasai__Yuno, on Mar 22 2017 - 15:42, said:

 

Bölter has been removed.

( obvious reasons )

 

There are SO MANY NAMES,

not included to this product.

( Obvious reasons )

 

Speaking of which, where are the Japanese hero medals?

Kamahl1234 #22 Posted Mar 22 2017 - 21:48

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View PostHalonut24, on Mar 22 2017 - 20:43, said:

 

That would explain the lack of any Finnish vehicles. Maybe as a premium, but I actually don't see a distinctly Finnish vehicle being added anytime.

 

And Classics, try not to deviate, buddy. I know it's hard, but I would rather not have my topic Locked on his behalf. So many others have...

 

In the interest of staying on topic, I voted it's tinfoil, as there's a few factors in both tank design and gameplay which somewhat skews this. One is that the shape of RU armor tends to lead to more effective armor due to prevalence of round or sloped armor. The other is that players tend to try for casual snapshots (long range while moving into position) in RU tanks or tanks with enough ammo to lose a shell or two to risk. 

 

I myself don't really see any difference between nations for bias, as some are simply by design not going to be as effective. Some tanks simply need rebalance as well, or are simply mediocre but not actually bad. 



Bolo_MkXX_Tremendous_DMD #23 Posted Mar 22 2017 - 21:50

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View PostNudnick, on Mar 22 2017 - 12:30, said:

It's a Russian game, made by and for Russians. Of course it's biased towards Russian tanks.

 



E25_Syndrome_Yuno #24 Posted Mar 22 2017 - 21:50

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View PostHalonut24, on Mar 22 2017 - 20:43, said:

 

That would explain the lack of any Finnish vehicles. Maybe as a premium, but I actually don't see a distinctly Finnish vehicle being added anytime.

 

And Classics, try not to deviate, buddy. I know it's hard, but I would rather not have my topic Locked on his behalf. So many others have...

 

Even some Finnish military markings,

would make me happy, this I want to say still.

 

But Wargaming ignores this History.

 

I am sure that it is not too much to ask,

to have our markings as buyable emblems.

( Same has happened for German markings )

 

Such is this.



Kenshin2kx #25 Posted Mar 22 2017 - 21:56

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View PostHalonut24, on Mar 22 2017 - 10:25, said:

I guess I'm just in a Russian mood, but I want to know from you, do you think that Russian Bias is a real thing? Is it a joke? An excuse for bad gameplay?

You decide. Feel free to discuss in the comments.

 

I suppose it's possible, but IMHO, were I creating a game where there would be a certain proprietary issue regarding cultural pride ... I'd first pick a venue that is particularly successful and or notable from the historic standpoint ... and in this case, I think WG chose well ... after all, the Soviet Union were quite advanced in and thus fielded some of the most effective tanks during the conflict ... so one could say that if there was provable 'bias' ... that it would be found more readily in emphasis on time period and conflict - in relation to the basis for the game ... as in primarily, tanks of the WWII, where Soviet tanks ranked highly in terms of effectiveness, if not creature comforts.

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It's largely tinfoil.  I see tanks in almost every nation's line that might be OP compared to their peers.  The T110E5 for almost three years, might still be; the recently buffed Maus; the new VK100.01(P), the Emil I, the 50B; the Batchat; the T 50 and TVP 50/51; the T29; some are calling the recently buffed Type 5 with 15cm completely over the top, etc, etc.  

 

No matter what nation of developers produced the game, other nation players would cry bias for that develops home nation tanks.  It's just human nature.



1K1LLuDi3 #27 Posted Mar 22 2017 - 22:43

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View PostGasai__Yuno, on Mar 22 2017 - 14:50, said:

 

Even some Finnish military markings,

would make me happy, this I want to say still.

 

But Wargaming ignores this History.

 

I am sure that it is not too much to ask,

to have our markings as buyable emblems.

( Same has happened for German markings )

 

Such is this.

 

They don't ignore history. They are simply ashamed of it. They were beaten bad, therefore don't ever expect anything in this game that reminds Russians of that defeat.

Shammalammadingdong #28 Posted Mar 22 2017 - 22:47

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Of course there's Russian bias, but no one cares.  Pick a line and go.  If you're looking for historical accuracy or context, you're in the wrong forum.

Bolted_On #29 Posted Mar 22 2017 - 22:48

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ALL THIS PURPLE TEXT IS MAKING MY EYES HURT

AleksMAN1 #30 Posted Mar 22 2017 - 22:51

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Всем привет ! Я не понимаю суть проблемы. Это игра ! В  неё уже играют пол мира ! Почему вы пытаетесь из нас (русских) сделать каких то монстров , которые обязательно должны кого то обманывать. История, есть история и  её уже не переписать и не исправить , (хотя пытаются). В игре каждый играет по своим возможностям ( таланту) , всё зависит от тебя и от выбора машины. Для каждого есть танк по вкусу и по гемплею. Мне нравятся как советские(т-62а) так и американские (Бульдог, Т-29) и многие другие. Играю я с 2012 года на  RU и не разу не слыхал , что какие то танки делали специально слабее.

PlaidPony #31 Posted Mar 22 2017 - 22:55

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The KV-1 used to have the KV-2 turret at tier 5.

 

Russian Bias hasn't been a thing in this game for a long, long time.



AleksMAN1 #32 Posted Mar 22 2017 - 23:03

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Историчности в игре не хватает , но были исторические режимы и они не стали популярными , потому что в них сложнее играть и выбор техники очень был ограничен.

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I figure I could weigh in:
I honestly am kinda split. There are signs that it is there, but as it stands right now, its more of a funny excuse, I think.
Its a well known fact that many Russian vehicles are much more forgiving than others, but in terms of a tank being "OP", other nations hold more. At higher tiers, I find German tanks much scarier than Russian tanks. But, you got to admit, Russian tanks are pretty fun to play. A lot of them are very good, but few are OP.

yashar11y #34 Posted Mar 22 2017 - 23:11

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conclusion: use russian tanks. Whether they should be better or not, they clearly are.

AleksMAN1 #35 Posted Mar 22 2017 - 23:12

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Главное - получать от игры удовольствие!!!)))))

Eleven_Hotel #36 Posted Mar 22 2017 - 23:24

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Soviet tanks were used by this companies origins.

 

The company is from Belarus, NOT Russia. Thought Belarus was part of the Soviet Union.

 



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Hello world! I don't understand the crux of the problem. It's a game! It has already played Paul in the world! Why are you trying to of us (Russians) do any of the monsters, which must necessarily be someone cheat. Story, there's history and it is not a rewrite and not correct, (though try to). The game everyone plays according to their abilities (talents), everything depends.

The main thing is getting away from fun games!))))) 

                                                                                                         ps: Used Google translate, sorry for mistakes!



CapPhrases #38 Posted Mar 22 2017 - 23:25

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from what i've seen russian tanks are easier to play but less rewarding in long term. they seem to have a low skill floor and ceiling so that a skilled player is more likely to pick a different nation that has better flexing capabilities.

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View PostAleksMAN1, on Mar 22 2017 - 17:25, said:

Hello world! I don't understand the crux of the problem. It's a game! It has already played Paul in the world! Why are you trying to of us (Russians) do any of the monsters, which must necessarily be someone cheat. Story, there's history and it is not a rewrite and not correct, (though try to). The game everyone plays according to their abilities (talents), everything depends.

The main thing is getting away from fun games!))))) 

                                                                                                         ps: Used Google translate, sorry for mistakes!

 

everything about this translation failure makes me laugh:teethhappy:

good one man you get a +1



AleksMAN1 #40 Posted Mar 22 2017 - 23:28

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The game everyone plays to his capabilities (talent), it all depends on you and from a selection of machines. For each there is a tank to taste and gempleju. I like how the Soviet (t-62A) and American (Bulldog, t-29) and many others. I play with 2012 year at RU and never heard that any tanks were doing specifically weaker.





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