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Poll: Russian Bias, is it Tinfoil or Truth? (232 members have cast votes)

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Is Russian Bias Real?

  1. Russian Bias is Truth. (183 votes [78.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 78.88%

  2. Russian Bias is a Tinfoil excuse for weird RNG and crap players. (49 votes [21.12%])

    Percentage of vote: 21.12%

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slavjur #81 Posted Aug 15 2017 - 03:14

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View PostStiffWind, on Aug 14 2017 - 20:45, said:

 

Blueprint tanks that never existed in real life.  Take a look at the chronology of real tanks like the Panther, Tiger I and Tiger II...when they were actually in the field.  For example, a Tiger II never went up against an IS3 in reality, yet they're both Tier VIII.  The bias is real.


 

 

 

IS4 / IS7 were diesigned /produced during period 1946-1949. The T110 series' history began in June 1954. Is US bias real? No need to search black cat in dark room. Again, want to prove existance of any bias in game, just check win rate for corresponding tier/type of tanks. USSR tanks are not always on top.

I may mistake, but as far as I remember there was "Historical battle" in game in 2014. And you know the reason of why they were removed? Surprise! Nobody wanted to play with USSR tanks, too many players played with German tanks. How it could happen with your idee fixe - "Russian bias" presence?

If you need historically accurate game, play something else (without herds of goating T67 (US not USSR T5 TD for your info)).

 


Edited by slavjur, Aug 15 2017 - 04:09.


Dockmaster #82 Posted Aug 15 2017 - 19:46

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View PostZombie_Snuggles, on Aug 12 2017 - 23:26, said:

 

I miss that game! Played it for 10 years.

 

Then you would know me. I helped run FA with Moira and PPS. I was Paddy@HQ. We are back with Fighter Base. Check the Facebook page to join the open beta. (Although at this stage it's more like Alpha testing).

 

Now...what was your nick...ever feel the pressure of my "boot"? lol

 

 



avitank2 #83 Posted Feb 13 2019 - 04:46

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nah comrade obj268 v4 is balanced for game is3a buff was needed  comrade not bias)))) defender and obj252u tier 9 on tier 8 balanced))))))

sergeantmine09 #84 Posted Feb 13 2019 - 17:43

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I mean the Russian Player Base complained that Wargaming was considering getting rid of their 122mm guns most unique ability: Being Able to Overmatch tanks. That among balance reasons was enough to stifle and eliminate the idea.

SquishySupreme #85 Posted Feb 13 2019 - 21:44

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There is no bias.  There is nothing to see here.  Please continue with your gaming, citizen.

BlackAngelCom #86 Posted Feb 13 2019 - 22:03

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Besides putting in mis-tiered or overpowered vehicles (and the Skorpion G and Progetto 46 etc. are also overpowered) the Russian bias is in the core systems. Excessive RNG in shot distribution and penetration punishes accurate tanks and helps inaccurate tanks. It also helps tanks with lots of rounded armor because a 1' shot drift can change the effective thickness massively. Effectively every mid-war and later tank has its effective range telescopes besides the 122mm Soviets, which weren't intended for or capable of sniping anyway. 

 

IRL a tank shell hitting some weird fold or bump in the armor is still going to hurt the tank; there's a reason modern tanks aren't designed like that by any country including USSR/ Russia. In WoT this is Stalinium. See also absurdly high ground clearances on the various Objects which makes them great at resisting WoT "track and damage" shots but IRL is both lousy (reduced crew space) and pointless (you get a shell in your tracks, your getting towed at best).

 

Same thing in WoWS where the place it usually turns into WoBS is autobounce/overmatch. There's no such thing as being harmlessly hit by a car moving at a few hundred miles per hour and certainly not because you have a few more MM of hull steel. But hey, the Yamato guns are "mysteriously" juuuuust big enough to do that while dirty Americans are not. And oh look, new STRONK Russia ships coming that happen to be resistant to all of said arbitrary, unrealistic overmatch mechanics. Etc.



Pepino1976 #87 Posted Feb 13 2019 - 22:32

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View PostE25_Syndrome_Aito, on Mar 22 2017 - 12:33, said:

ABSOLUTELY is REAL.

It is only logical as well.

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Such is this, my friend.

 

Yea! So glad to see you on the forums, my friend.

 

Look forward to see you in battle once more, on same side, of course.



Rimrender #88 Posted Feb 14 2019 - 06:04

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The mysterious accuracy of Soviet guns rated over.40.

Dhante #89 Posted Jul 26 2019 - 23:15

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View PostEleven_Hotel, on Mar 22 2017 - 14:24, said:

Soviet tanks were used by this companies origins.

 

The company is from Belarus, NOT Russia. Thought Belarus was part of the Soviet Union.

 

Find some below the surface info about the mindset



Dhante #90 Posted Jul 26 2019 - 23:18

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View PostSquishySupreme, on Feb 13 2019 - 12:44, said:

There is no bias.  There is nothing to see here.  Please continue with your gaming, citizen.


That nails it.



Copacetic #91 Posted Jul 27 2019 - 03:44

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IRL Russian tanks suck [edited].

21Blackjack #92 Posted Jul 27 2019 - 04:24

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View PostE25_Syndrome_Aito, on Mar 22 2017 - 21:37, said:

 

Iconic StuG III with Log spaced armour as a premium

in the German tree would be sufficient for me.

WITH FINNISH MARKINGS.

 

Some captured and modified soviet vehicles by my ancestors

in German tree are sufficient as well.

 

But Wargaming refuses to realize IMPORTANT history.

 

E25 with strapped on rubber wheels from go-carts that absorb shots.  =  Invincible.  Germany could've won WW2.



21Blackjack #93 Posted Jul 27 2019 - 04:32

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View PostHalonut24, on Mar 22 2017 - 21:25, said:

I guess I'm just in a Russian mood, but I want to know from you, do you think that Russian Bias is a real thing? Is it a joke? An excuse for bad gameplay?

You decide. Feel free to discuss in the comments.

 

All the way back to near the beginning Soviet tanks are on average better.  They usually carry a gun one tier higher than their counterparts.  They usually have ground resistances in excess of their counterparts.  They usually have bloom values better than their counterparts.  Take the T-34 for example.  A tier V with a 76mm or 57mm that is capable of pumping out near 3000 dpm.  On a tier V medium thats not a turreted TD?  I felt super powered driving Russian tanks, I could get away with stuff I'd be destroyed for with most other tanks.

 

Sure there are some standout from other nations, with autoloaders or some absurd alpha.  But consistently across the board the Soviet tanks are just straight up better.

 



Deputy276 #94 Posted Jul 27 2019 - 05:46

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This question would have brought a "no" before I got the SU-130PM. Now, I dunno. Geez that TD is magnificent. It scoffs at super-heavy armor and can pen pretty much anything in WOT. It is my absolute best XP/credit earner. Thank goodness it is a Prem and they can't nerf it. I dunno...tanks like the IS-6 are kinda crappy now. IS-7 is no great shakes any more. Most of the Russian tech tree line that were OP have been castrated. Every nationality has a "superior" tank somewhere. Germans have the Skorpion G. Even the lowly French have that fantastic AMX 65 t (cough-gag). :facepalm:

I don't buy that crap about Soviets having the best tanks of WW2. They were like the US...they depended on quantity over quality.



21Blackjack #95 Posted Jul 27 2019 - 05:49

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View PostDeputy276, on Jul 27 2019 - 05:46, said:

. I dunno...tanks like the IS-6 are kinda crappy now. IS-7 is no great shakes any more. 

 

Don't worry I'm sure that by next year it will be buffed.  Trust in the Russian playerbase.



Deputy276 #96 Posted Jul 27 2019 - 05:52

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View Post21Blackjack, on Jul 26 2019 - 22:49, said:

 

Don't worry I'm sure that by next year it will be buffed.  Trust in the Russian playerbase.

It's been buffed so many times already that there is no paint left on it. Unless and until they do something with that crappy gun, it will always suck.







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