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earthman34 #1 Posted Apr 15 2017 - 21:11

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I went back and rebought this to grind the new line. What a turkey. Slow as dirt, puny gun with pathetic ROF, seriously, I don't care what "stats" this gun supposedly has, it is the worst underperformer, always rolls low, misses easy fully aimed shots, just crap. The armor on this thing will not bounce anything over 6, and I was penned frontally by a tier 4 today...multiple times. This thing sucks.

HowitzerBlitzer #2 Posted Apr 15 2017 - 21:17

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I still think the AMX M4 45 is worse.

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I don't know the AT-7 and Black Prince are pretty bad

TwinTanker #4 Posted Apr 15 2017 - 21:20

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View PostHowitzerBlitzer, on Apr 15 2017 - 12:17, said:

I still think the AMX M4 45 is worse.

 

That tank is THE [edited]. AS IN GOOD

HowitzerBlitzer #5 Posted Apr 15 2017 - 21:24

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View PostTwinTanker, on Apr 15 2017 - 15:20, said:

That tank is THE [edited]. AS IN GOOD

 

Twin, do you have to oppose everything I say? Both here, and on the discord?



Cutthroatlemur #6 Posted Apr 15 2017 - 21:33

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I agree OP, I just bought the Tiger P last week.  What a turkey.  I LOVE the Tiger 1, but the P has terrible mobility and reload by comparison.  

The1Retribution #7 Posted Apr 15 2017 - 21:46

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View PostCutthroatlemur, on Apr 15 2017 - 13:33, said:

I agree OP, I just bought the Tiger P last week.  What a turkey.  I LOVE the Tiger 1, but the P has terrible mobility and reload by comparison.  

 

its an under performer for sure but not the worst tier 7. imo the kv3 is the worst. gun sucks, its slow, its horribly inaccurate. the only good thing is the armor but even that if you know how to aim is pretty weak.

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Tiger P a tank that leads to 4 different lines.... and WG can't even be bothered to buff it

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View PostThe1Retribution, on Apr 15 2017 - 15:46, said:

 

its an under performer for sure but not the worst tier 7. imo the kv3 is the worst. gun sucks, its slow, its horribly inaccurate. the only good thing is the armor but even that if you know how to aim is pretty weak.

 

that's odd because the KV-3 is one of my best tanks. if you think the tiger P is better then it may end up not being as bad as i thought

Edited by CapPhrases, Apr 15 2017 - 21:54.


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Got two MOE with Tiger P. Tiger P is fine. It does require a bit higher player skill level to make it work well though. You have to keep in mind you trade ROF and some mobility for hull armor that functions well at distance. If you equip it with vents, binocs, and camo net or a rammer and have a 3-4 skill/perk crew heavily invested in it, it can shred any heavy at its tier and even give tier 8's a run for their money. Stay at distance, use cover to help hide your weak spots, and stick to snipe and support tactics. Be a hunter, not a brawler. There is no reason at all for you to try to lead a charge in a Tiger P unless you are top dog and the only heavy on your team.

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View PostCapPhrases, on Apr 15 2017 - 13:53, said:

 

that's odd because the KV-3 is one of my best tanks. if you think the tiger P is better then it may end up not being as bad as i thought

 

just one persons opinion. i hated the kv3 played like 30 games in it with its best equipment and a 2 box crew and still hated it. sold it free expd the kv4, hated that one as well. sold it 3x. will free exp past it one day or buy it for a 4th time to bash my head against the wall some more. some tanks are just bad fits for some players. also the way a tiger is supposed to be used is have them push into your line of fire, fire then retreat making them aim at your hull because your moving and hope for a bounce.

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Loved my Tiger (P), at maybe around 30-40 games in it I would have agreed to everything OP is complaining about except maybe the pens. Never been penned by a tier IV frontally. After around 70ish battles it did a total 180 for me and I couldn't be stopped in it. Completed the grind to the Ferdinand and VK with no equipment to boot.

 

But honestly OP, just felt compelled to make a rage post about your poor monetary decisions ingame? What a girl, hope you got your stress out.




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View PostCapPhrases, on Apr 15 2017 - 15:51, said:

Tiger P a tank that leads to 4 different lines.... and WG can't even be bothered to buff it

 

I believe that it is three lines.   You are correct WG should have buffed it with the new German tank tree to help out some of it's players.  And it may have been smart for them to buff it so players could and would move up tank lines.

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View Postearthman34, on Apr 15 2017 - 21:11, said:

I went back and rebought this to grind the new line. What a turkey. Slow as dirt, puny gun with pathetic ROF, seriously, I don't care what "stats" this gun supposedly has, it is the worst underperformer, always rolls low, misses easy fully aimed shots, just crap. The armor on this thing will not bounce anything over 6, and I was penned frontally by a tier 4 today...multiple times. This thing sucks.

 

I have not played it a lot. Got it and sold it to get credits for another line I was working on at the time. I have such a low perception of the armor on the Tiger 1 that almost anything feels like an improvement over that. Like I said I didn't have a lot of games in the Tiger P but it didn't feel horrible. Slow yes, didn't notice an overly poor gun performance. Hope its really not that bad as it opens up 3 tank lines. I might get it again at some point but its not a priority. I ran the E100 line up to the E75 and pretty much liked most of the tanks in that line except for the tier 7 Tiger 1 (Good gun but poor armor).

earthman34 #15 Posted Apr 15 2017 - 22:38

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View PostFatLeeAdama, on Apr 15 2017 - 15:00, said:

 "it can shred any heavy at its tier"

That's absurd. A Tiger 1 will demolish it on DPM. An IS will beat it in a straight trade every time.



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View Postriff_, on Apr 15 2017 - 21:30, said:

 

I believe that it is three lines.   You are correct WG should have buffed it with the new German tank tree to help out some of it's players.  And it may have been smart for them to buff it so players could and would move up tank lines.

 

Tiger P now leads to Ferdinand, VK4502A, Tiger I, and VK100.01P.

 

Ferdinand excluded that's still around 200000 xp of grinding... on a Tier 7. 350000 xp including the Ferdie. That's a LOT of battles on a sub-par Tier 7... I'm so glad I owned the Maus already. I've still got an Elite Tiger P!



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View Postriff_, on Apr 15 2017 - 16:30, said:

 

I believe that it is three lines.   You are correct WG should have buffed it with the new German tank tree to help out some of it's players.  And it may have been smart for them to buff it so players could and would move up tank lines.

 

whether it's 3 lines or 4 depends on whether you count the side movement into the tiger 1. honestly i'm fine with either.

also yes i was expecting buffs when they introduced the new german heavy line and instead all they gave it was a cupole buff to 120mm. woo. thing deserves more love.



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View PostMedessec, on Apr 15 2017 - 16:45, said:

 

Tiger P now leads to Ferdinand, VK4502A, Tiger I, and VK100.01P.

 

Ferdinand excluded that's still around 200000 xp of grinding... on a Tier 7. 350000 xp including the Ferdie. That's a LOT of battles on a sub-par Tier 7... I'm so glad I owned the Maus already. I've still got an Elite Tiger P!

 

Tiger 1?  Is not the Tiger 1 in a different line.  Are not they both tier 7.

 

Edit:

Just checked.  I stand corrected.

 


Edited by riff_, Apr 15 2017 - 22:51.


moon111 #19 Posted Apr 15 2017 - 23:20

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Considering it's a heavy tank that sees tier 9, I'm not sure I'd want to go one-on-on against my tier 3, Pak 40.  Seeing the tier III has 98 standard pen and the Tiger P turret is 100... maybe have to load some premium.

Just the fact one can contemplate this, is mind-boggling IMHO.  Didn't they buff it recently?  First time I played the Tiger P, two tanks on each side of an intersection and the gun wouldn't traverse fast enough to move 

from one side of the road to the other.  I can't fathom someone clicking the Accelerating crew training on this.



earthman34 #20 Posted Apr 16 2017 - 01:29

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View Postmoon111, on Apr 15 2017 - 16:20, said:

Considering it's a heavy tank that sees tier 9, I'm not sure I'd want to go one-on-on against my tier 3, Pak 40.  Seeing the tier III has 98 standard pen and the Tiger P turret is 100... maybe have to load some premium.

Just the fact one can contemplate this, is mind-boggling IMHO.  Didn't they buff it recently?  First time I played the Tiger P, two tanks on each side of an intersection and the gun wouldn't traverse fast enough to move 

from one side of the road to the other.  I can't fathom someone clicking the Accelerating crew training on this.

 

​I had a Pz38(t) shoot at my front 5 times and penetrate 3.... There is a problem here. When a tier 7 heavy can be shot up by a tier 4 light frontally, something is wrong. Here's the crazy part. I hit him in the turret and it bounced. 203 average pen bounces off a tier 4 light tank. This thing needs a buff, either to armor, to speed, to turret traverse (please), or something.




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