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Toxicity73 #21 Posted Apr 26 2017 - 15:08

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View PostMercer_Keel, on Apr 26 2017 - 07:07, said:

 

Look just don't get to bent. Not every Vet see's things the same way as you or has the same point of views as you. That freedom to voice that view is what you and I fought for.

 

Agreed......

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View PostSgtjrmiller73, on Apr 26 2017 - 06:36, said:

 Hey Chieftatin, Read the page on Australia's Veterans Memorial holiday. And you stated this: Not the rather loud method that the US uses, but far more solemnly. In my observation, US Memorial Day is a day to open the summer season of fun, have a day off work, visit the beach on the long weekend, have a barbeque. A minority of folks, usually those who have some relationship with the military, either by way of their own service or by way of a relative, and by no means the majority of those, will visit a military grave or memorial. But to the public at large, it's just a day off.

 

You got a lot of freaking Nerve to down grade anyone's Veterans memorial celebration. Memorial day weekend is MUCH more than Giant fanfare. We celebrate by doing the the things that are important like being with our loved ones because there are those that paid the ultimate sacrifice thru body and soul. You apparently have no clue what happens NATIONWIDE in the US. Parades across the nation well, weekends full of special events. What you stated was disrespectful and completely out of line. This is one instance where you should have kept your personal opinion out of you commentary. You owe every veteran in the US living and Dead, including myself, as well as anyone closely associated with a veteran, an APOLOGY

 

Are you TRIGGERED? Do you need a safe space? Are you gonna cry because somebody wasn't PC enough to respect your holiday the way you want them to? He never said that nobody respects the holiday, in fact he said people like you are likely to respect it. He said the majority of people don't which is true. The majority of U.S. citizens view it as a day off. It's one of the largest bbq and camping weekends in the nation. I've personally never seen a parade for memorial day. I'm sure they exist but are the majority of people really attending them? I don't think so. As a kid growing up the only time I went to visit graves was when my very traditional grandparents brought me to do so. Either way thank you for your service to our nation but I really don't think the chieftain was saying that nobody respects the holiday and he wasn't trying to downgrade the value of it for those who do.

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Our day is Veterans Day.

 

Memorial day is the day we celebrate the sacrifices of those who made it possible for us to have all the other holidays.


 

I've always witnessed it as both joyous and somber.



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View PostSgtjrmiller73, on Apr 26 2017 - 08:36, said:

 Hey Chieftatin, Read the page on Australia's Veterans Memorial holiday. And you stated this: Not the rather loud method that the US uses, but far more solemnly. In my observation, US Memorial Day is a day to open the summer season of fun, have a day off work, visit the beach on the long weekend, have a barbeque. A minority of folks, usually those who have some relationship with the military, either by way of their own service or by way of a relative, and by no means the majority of those, will visit a military grave or memorial. But to the public at large, it's just a day off.

 

You got a lot of freaking Nerve to down grade anyone's Veterans memorial celebration. Memorial day weekend is MUCH more than Giant fanfare. We celebrate by doing the the things that are important like being with our loved ones because there are those that paid the ultimate sacrifice thru body and soul. You apparently have no clue what happens NATIONWIDE in the US. Parades across the nation well, weekends full of special events.  What you stated was disrespectful and completely out of line. This is one instance where you should have kept your personal opinion out of you commentary. You owe every veteran in the US living and Dead, including myself, as well as anyone closely associated with a veteran, an APOLOGY.

 

Special events like this?

 

 

Stop whining: he's right.  Anyone who watches American TV can see the "Veteran's Day Sale" ads running non-stop when that day comes round each year.  The way America celebrates Veteran's Day is incredibly tacky.

 

This is not about you sticking up for veterans.  This is about you thinking that nobody is allowed to criticize America.


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View PostSgtjrmiller73, on Apr 26 2017 - 05:36, said:

 Hey Chieftatin, Read the page on Australia's Veterans Memorial holiday. And you stated this: Not the rather loud method that the US uses, but far more solemnly. In my observation, US Memorial Day is a day to open the summer season of fun, have a day off work, visit the beach on the long weekend, have a barbeque. A minority of folks, usually those who have some relationship with the military, either by way of their own service or by way of a relative, and by no means the majority of those, will visit a military grave or memorial. But to the public at large, it's just a day off.

 

You got a lot of freaking Nerve to down grade anyone's Veterans memorial celebration. Memorial day weekend is MUCH more than Giant fanfare. We celebrate by doing the the things that are important like being with our loved ones because there are those that paid the ultimate sacrifice thru body and soul. You apparently have no clue what happens NATIONWIDE in the US. Parades across the nation well, weekends full of special events. What you stated was disrespectful and completely out of line. This is one instance where you should have kept your personal opinion out of you commentary. You owe every veteran in the US living and Dead, including myself, as well as anyone closely associated with a veteran, an APOLOGY

 

I think you are a troll. Nuff said. This is a blatant outcry for attention. Tune down your RPMs, Sarge. As for myself, he ain't owes me shait, Sgt.

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Toxicity73 #26 Posted Apr 26 2017 - 15:19

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Weel th point was missed im not surprised.....moving on

xtcmax #27 Posted Apr 26 2017 - 15:22

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Sgt, I think you took it a little to the wrong direction, way too aggressive and very one sided. Rest assured you are not the only vet here.

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I don't necessarily think there is anything wrong with the way the USA celebrates the holiday; it's just different from other parts of the world, and variety is the spice of life.  Should we also complain that Christmas is about presents instead of the birth of Jesus, and that Easter is about chocolate instead of his resurrection?  I'm not religious in anyway, but most kids today don't know the origins of those holidays.  That's fine; they've evolved into something else, but just trying to put Memorial Day events (or lack of events) into perspective too.  They can be something different than what they were intended to be.  They can also be personal in the sense that everyone is entitled to do what they want, and if the majority of American's don't celebrate, and do something different from AUS/NZ, that's fine too.

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View Postratpak, on Apr 26 2017 - 05:53, said:

 

bad post ^  

He is taking it emotionally since he stated he is a Vet.

 

that was not a bad post its a very very good and thought out line.

 

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"Blind patriotism is blind, try not being the ugly American."

 

This is what I read from this line. Be proud of who you are and what you have done. Be proud of the nation that your served, but don't be so proud that you don't see its own weakness and ugliness. Don't go thinking that we are above anyone else just because of where we live.   

 

In the Marines we had a saying that still sticks with me to day.   "Don't be a 8-5 Marine. Be a 24/7 Marine." Don't be strong and hold up standards when everyone is watching. strive to be strong and hold up standards when no one is watching. 

 

 

 



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View Postmoogleslam, on Apr 26 2017 - 09:22, said:

I don't necessarily think there is anything wrong with the way the USA celebrates the holiday; it's just different from other parts of the world, and variety is the spice of life.  Should we also complain that Christmas is about presents instead of the birth of Jesus, and that Easter is about chocolate instead of his resurrection?  I'm not religious in anyway, but most kids today don't know the origins of those holidays.  That's fine; they've evolved into something else, but just trying to put Memorial Day events (or lack of events) into perspective too.  They can be something different than what they were intended to be.  They can also be personal in the sense that everyone is entitled to do what they want, and if the majority of American's don't celebrate, and do something different from AUS/NZ, that's fine too.

 

I agree, but then again, I don't think you'd see someone insisting that anyone who doesn't like Christmas commercialism owes Christians an apology.  That's basically what OP was saying.

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View PostMercer_Keel, on Apr 26 2017 - 07:25, said:

 

that was not a bad post its a very very good and thought out line.

 

 

This is what I read from this line. Be proud of who you are and what you have done. Be proud of the nation that your served, but don't be so proud that you don't see its own weakness and ugliness. Don't go thinking that we are above anyone else just because of where we live.   

 

In the Marines we had a saying that still sticks with me to day.   "Don't be a 8-5 Marine. Be a 24/7 Marine." Don't be strong and hold up standards when only everyone is watching. strive to be strong and hold up standards when no one is watching. 

 

 

 

 

hoo-rah!!!!!  I agree fully. I also would hold on to what makes u tick. Because its all u got in the end.

mattwong #32 Posted Apr 26 2017 - 15:33

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What OP is doing is called "virtue signalling".  That's where you make a big show of your moral outrage in order to tell the world how morally superior you are.  No one is totally immune to this, ie- everyone does it at one time or other, but some do it more than others do, or for more ridiculous reasons.

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View PostSgtjrmiller73, on Apr 26 2017 - 06:28, said:

 

hoo-rah!!!!!  I agree fully. I also would hold on to what makes u tick. Because its all u got in the end.

 

I know what the Chieftain posted was a bit out of sorts because he did throw everyone in to one large grouping of lack of support. I would say msg him and just let him know that him being so vague in that part mislead you on what his message was that he was trying to put out. 

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Just going to leave this here:



Toxicity73 #35 Posted Apr 26 2017 - 15:38

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View PostMercer_Keel, on Apr 26 2017 - 07:36, said:

 

I know what the Chieftain posted was a bit out of sorts because he did throw everyone in to one large grouping of lack of support. I would say msg him and just let him know that him being so vague in that part mislead you on what his message was that he was trying to put out. 

 

Right on brother that was the point i was trying to make. I agree and looking back I did get triggered. I extend my apology for that, but thank you for understanding my point.

Toxicity73 #36 Posted Apr 26 2017 - 15:40

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View PostLife_In_Black, on Apr 26 2017 - 07:37, said:

Just going to leave this here:

 

Nice pic and correct , and nice quote

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Dude, take a massive chill pill.  The Chieftan never said "all american hate vets and ignore them"  The chieftain said, in the context of comparing it too Australia's turnout, that MOST NOT ALL(caps for emphasis) Americans have a much more low key event and/or just enjoy the day off.  His statement is a) absolutely correct, and b) not at all offensive.  You are either trolling and looking for attention, or deliberately looking to be offended.

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View PostLife_In_Black, on Apr 26 2017 - 06:37, said:

Just going to leave this here:

 

Hey there motivator those glasses are not ballistic rated. Your a threat to your own personal. You best un[edited] yourself. :D

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View PostMercer_Keel, on Apr 26 2017 - 09:47, said:

 

Hey there motivator those glasses are not ballistic rated. Your a threat to your own personal. You best un[edited] yourself. :D

 

Tell that to The_Chieftain, he's the one in the picture. :B

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View PostMercer_Keel, on Apr 26 2017 - 07:47, said:

 

Hey there motivator those glasses are not ballistic rated. Your a threat to your own personal. You best un[edited] yourself. :D

 

I think they are GUCCI




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