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Lonewolfpj #41 Posted Apr 26 2017 - 15:50

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I am a Vet and I don't think it worth getting this worked up over. Also isn't Chieftain also a former member of the military?

Lethalhavoc #42 Posted Apr 26 2017 - 15:55

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You understand of course that the Chieftain is a vet also.

And he was merely pointing out that when 25% of an entire cities population wakes up before dawn, to honor their war dead at a pre-dawn ceremony, that it IS different than what the USA or even Canada does.


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Mercer_Keel #43 Posted Apr 26 2017 - 15:55

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View PostLife_In_Black, on Apr 26 2017 - 06:49, said:

 

Tell that to The_Chieftain, he's the one in the picture. :B

 

Im sure he will see this and get a good laugh out of it. I mean who hasten had a staff NCO yoke you up for being outside of reg's 

Silversound #44 Posted Apr 26 2017 - 16:05

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Memorial day in the USA is just as he described.

 

I back his observation.



Nudnick #45 Posted Apr 26 2017 - 16:20

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This is why OP and Chieftain fought for free speech. Sometimes the truth hurts.

Harkonen_siegetank #46 Posted Apr 26 2017 - 16:22

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Just be glad it is a holiday. In some countries, veteran's day/memorial day is just another day (ie not being celebrated).

Tjtod #47 Posted Apr 26 2017 - 18:03

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Since a lot has already been said, I just want to throw my thoughts in. Based on what I've read, all in all it just seems to be very emotional and knee jerk reaction by the OP; all I can say is to give yourself time to cool down after typing before you post, and if you still feel that way then go ahead and post it. I'm glad that this thread didn't snowball into a massive flame war.

 

To OP and all the vets that posted here, thank you for your service.


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xtcmax #48 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 01:44

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Boys,

I kinda want to beat the dead horse here.

 

Sgt, by no means I am questioning your sanity nor I mean any diss towards you, at the same time I want to ask the following: "Sgt, what was your motivation to start such topic and, most of all, what would you like to hear?"  The more and more I start to analyze you, and your motivations, the more I either:

   a. Think that you were tolling

   b. Think that you want some recognition for what you did.

 

- Don't get me wrong, Sgt, sometimes I like to troll forums as well, but you just put the whole article "upside down".

- If you don't think that joining the forces was a small step and people need to bow down to you...I don't get it.

 

With all due respect, SGT, plz collaborate on your thoughts, sir. (i know u work for a living)

 

With respect,

max.



Heldar #49 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 02:00

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Hes not wrong for the majority of people though.

xtcmax #50 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 04:04

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View PostHeldar, on Apr 26 2017 - 17:00, said:

Hes not wrong for the majority of people though.

 

Sir, i would not want to "march", nor i want to want a god damn MONUMENTAL WAR....:)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))),

 

Latest US wars....dunno....WHEN PEEPS GATHER FOR WW2....i don't care about sales....and in RU and USA - profit. USSR - asked for help, AND US-ANSWERED......be it for gold, be it for brains....WE WELCOMED !!!!!

 

 

 

GOD FORBID SUCH WAR UPON USA !

<no politics answers PLEASE>

 



KaiserWilhelmShatner #51 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 04:41

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Just to let you know OP, Memorial Day is much more then car and furniture sales.

The_Chieftain #52 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 04:47

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View PostMercer_Keel, on Apr 26 2017 - 14:47, said:

 

Hey there motivator those glasses are not ballistic rated. 

 

They are, actually, Wiley-Xs. They're not issue, because I find the issue ones highly uncomfortable: They all have thick plastic arms, and the CVC earpieces press my ears against them, and then against the skull. The glasses in the picture come with a more spectacle-like wire frame, and are thus far more comfortable. The style has been out of production for somewhere over a decade, now, unfortunately.

 

My response to Sgt is here. http://forum.worldof...0#entry10945140



mr_angry_eyes #53 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 11:34

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Nothing more American than supporting the service based consumer economy that was enabled by others sacrifice.

 

About 10 civilians are required to support one warrior.

Those who will value the day will participate as they see fit, which is the point.



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View PostSgtjrmiller73, on Apr 27 2017 - 00:19, said:

Weel th point was missed im not surprised.....moving on

 

Your point was not missed; it was rubbish.

 

You read messages into simple observations that Chieftain made about people's behaviour. He described what people do, making no judgment about whether those things are correct or not. You chose read that as criticism and blew your top.

 

Pull your head in, champ.



moon111 #55 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 13:52

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In Canada, we have the Highway of Heros.  And although there is much respect for solders who've lost their lives, it's having witnessed children watching their parent's casket that really makes me think.  To me, those kids are my heros.

For all the deserved ceremony that is given, the fact, as stated by the UN, is work is three times as deadly as war.  1 death every 15 seconds.  Workers face the equivalent of a 9/11 tragedy every day.  You look at the impact that agriculture, construction and mining alone make to society.  From the kid who was crushed on his first day on the job, to Merchant sailors, to solders that fought to an untold story... there's a lot of people who don't come home.  We're all aware of Remembrance day.  We'll even know when Memorial day is in the U.S.  Tomorrow (April 28th) is the National Day of Mourning in Canada, but how many of us will know that?  If I was going into WWII knowing that after this, the world's greatest powers would not have another conflict, think it would make it all seem a little more worthwhile.  And if war and Memorial days became a secondary thought in many people's minds, I would think the sacrifice was worth it.  In some ways, it's more flattering as any real object of war should be to bring back peace.  With the passing of time, for most, we are no longer remembering experiences, we're trying not to forget a history lesson.

 

 
 
 

 

 

 
 
 

 



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Ok guys, I think we can give Sgt. Miller a break. He jumped the gun, but has apologised. No need to reply to his OP. Just read the thread first.

mattwong #57 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 16:43

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View Postmr_angry_eyes, on Apr 27 2017 - 05:34, said:

Nothing more American than supporting the service based consumer economy that was enabled by others sacrifice.

 

You really think boys bled out on the beach at Normandy for Black Friday sales?



mr_angry_eyes #58 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 17:08

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Yes.

Combine that with holding much of the world's war debt because all other industrial nations economies were wrecked and voila, you have a country focused on the pursuit of happiness and the consumer economy to support the dream!

Or you could recognize sarcasm when you see it. Fairly certain I understand the implied gravity, as my grandfather was there and I have experienced the green machine life.

mattwong #59 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 17:18

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View Postmr_angry_eyes, on Apr 27 2017 - 11:08, said:

Or you could recognize sarcasm when you see it. Fairly certain I understand the implied gravity, as my grandfather was there and I have experienced the green machine life.

 

Sarcasm does not transmit well over the Internet, especially in an age when high-ranking politicians seriously assert ideas that once would have come only from a comedian.



COL_KLINK_ #60 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 23:56

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Thre are no former Marines...only Marines. OooooraaaaHHH !!!! And i agree 100% with OP.




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