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T-55A MT-15 matchmaking mm. personal missions missions

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Poll: should all the rng or mm related missions be changed? (71 members have cast votes)

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what kind og changes should be made

  1. keep it as it is now (17 votes [25.37%])

    Percentage of vote: 25.37%

  2. remove the mechanic that makes it less common to meet the setup you need to complete the mission (3 votes [4.48%])

    Percentage of vote: 4.48%

  3. make the missions that require mm or rng easier so the setup has to be less precise in order to finish the mission (9 votes [13.43%])

    Percentage of vote: 13.43%

  4. change all the missions that require the luck of rnjesus in a way that they'll require more skill (29 votes [43.28%])

    Percentage of vote: 43.28%

  5. make it possible for people on the missions to have some way that they can rig mm or rng by platooning to improve the team play element of world of tanks in general (1 vote [1.49%])

    Percentage of vote: 1.49%

  6. lock all missions and do a complete overhaul of the personal missions to better the fit the new wot algorithm (8 votes [11.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.94%

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yadronkers #1 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 09:36

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I've noticed that since the new matchmaking formula the MT-15 mission is total [edited].

you need to kill 2 td's that are 1 tier higher than you. but that's impossible because first of all missions trigger some kind of [edited]where you get (in my case) less td's overall)

but with the new mm you barely get matches where there are more than 5 tanks higher tier than you I think they shoudl change the missions to make them fit the new matchmaking

I made a poll so you can vote maybe if we get enough votes wargaming will do something about it.



REDbuster514 #2 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 09:55

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It's funny I'm stuck on this mission too. I seem to never get a game where I even meet 2 higher tiered TDs, let alone having to kill steal them. Then there's the 2k dmg secondary mission, which makes it even harder to complete at lower tiers. 

kingmeofme #3 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 09:56

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On the one hand this mission is a total pain, and always was. On the other hand I had to go through that, and did go through that, so I don't want this mission being made into a cop out. 

 

i think with up to 8 higher tiered tanks this mission isn't substantially harder to complete than it once was. Platoon with TDs to get more on the enemy team, and try to play tier 6 or tier 8 so there is more room for TDs.

 

I completed this several times in my cromwell, some tier 9 mediums, and my t9 skoda. With the changes i think tier 6 is the best even with the damage requirement

 

edit: if the mission were to be changed I would want it to be "kill 4 TDs" or "kill 3 TDs of equal tier or higher" at the bare minimum. killing 2 of equal tier or higher isn't a mission, it's every other match.


Edited by kingmeofme, Apr 27 2017 - 10:05.


Gravtech #4 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 09:59

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Absolutely not for the second option. Everyone who already owns the T 55A had to deal with completing the mission as it is, making it so tier 10s only have to kill 2 equal tiered TDs is absurdly easy. The mission is for a free tier 9, why should it be easier? If you're mad that you don't get higher tiered TDs often enough then blame your bad luck for not doing these missions earlier, they have been out for the past 2 years after all

General_Canuck99 #5 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 10:09

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I vote not to change it, but to change how we platoon. I completed this mission and a few more like it(Kill 2 heavy tanks two tiers higher in a heavy for instance) by rigging the MM by platooning with TDs one or even two tiers higher. I did this mission with the Cromwell platooned with a couple of higher TDs.

What is not fair is we all had this mechanic to use and now the OP doesn't, so I say allow us to platoon with at least +- 1 tier. Also for the SPG hunter we should be able to platoon with at least one or two arty.

 

9.18 has created a few challenging issues with personal missions for sure.



daangerous #6 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 10:10

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I am stuck on this mission for quite a while now and I agree that it is even harder now. For some reason I just can not find 2 or more TD's that are a tier higher than me.

Avalon304 #7 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 10:20

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View PostGravtech, on Apr 27 2017 - 00:59, said:

Absolutely not for the second option. Everyone who already owns the T 55A had to deal with completing the mission as it is, making it so tier 10s only have to kill 2 equal tiered TDs is absurdly easy. The mission is for a free tier 9, why should it be easier? If you're mad that you don't get higher tiered TDs often enough then blame your bad luck for not doing these missions earlier, they have been out for the past 2 years after all

 

Yea... I dont think a mission thats nearly impossible to complete should be allowed to remain nearly impossible to complete. I get it needing to be hard... but not nearly impossible.

 

I dont know what the proper change could be... but one does need to be made.

 

(And I say this as a person who has completed the mission once already).


Edited by Avalon304, Apr 27 2017 - 10:21.


S_D_Smither #8 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 10:27

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The fact that probably less than 90% of the games you play you can't even do the mission due to MM/RNG is bogus. Their is very little skilled required to do the mission, its literally pure luck due to MM. The fact that RNG is the basis for a "level 15" mission is simply put idiotic. I'd prefer it to have been a game with like 8k dmg (spotting/ dmg) total over this. At least that game requires actual skill, rather than simple luck with mm. Either that, or double the dmg but be same tier tds or higher. 



yadronkers #9 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 10:29

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thanks for the feedback already yeah Ik about platooning but i only recently unlocked this mission (was on a wot hiatus)

i know that by platooning this mission is possible but with the you need to have the same tier to toon crapit really isnt that helpfull

ill add another answer to the poll so more options to vote

 

i get the mission shouldnt be easier so ill remove the tier 10 one but i think there should be some way so people with tier 10 tanks can finish this mission too so killing 4 equal tier for tier 10 tanks sound as a good alternative ill add that one

 

as for now changing the entire mission isnt such a bad idea by making it less random and more skill based

keep posting people we need as much feedback as possible so wg can do something with it


Edited by yadronkers, Apr 27 2017 - 10:34.


SuperTankDriver #10 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 11:01

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The "Do something to 3 SPGs" mission also needs to change. That mission is in LT aswell as MT set aswell, atleast for T-55A and Object 260.

 

Arty numbers are now low, and now they're capped at 3. It's especially hard to do the LT mission as it requires you to spot them first aswell, and damage them. So if somebody else spots even a single arty out of 3 (provided you managed to get 3 in a match), this mission is now over. Can't do anything now.

 

I feel like all MM related missions (do this to heavies 2 tiers higher, do this to TDs 1 tier higher, etc.) should be changed to something else. Non-MM related missions. So that you don't have to wait every 50 games, hoping to get enough tanks for your requirement.



Dionysus_Zagreus #11 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 11:02

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Keep it the way it is.  I remember that light mission that you need to spot and damage 3 SPG's...... I was exactly 4 months completing it!  There were literally dozens and dozens and dozens of games where I never saw 3 arty in a match......

 

Keep it and stop whining.....



Bolo_MkXX_Tremendous_DMD #12 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 11:18

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This mission was very frustrating and I got <rooster> blocked by my own team so many times!

I played a lot of Tier VIIs to get it because Skorpion spam.



shiil #13 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 11:27

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View PostAvalon304, on Apr 27 2017 - 09:20, said:

 

Yea... I dont think a mission thats nearly impossible to complete should be allowed to remain nearly impossible to complete. I get it needing to be hard... but not nearly impossible.

 

I dont know what the proper change could be... but one does need to be made.

 

(And I say this as a person who has completed the mission once already).

 

i agree with you, i already own the T55A, completed this mission with amx 30 and it frustrated me that i had to grind the chzeck line for skoda T50.

missions should be hard but viable to  be finished in every other battle,  not dependent of luck and waiting the day all conditions to finish the mission are there, which you have no control on them.



War_Machine_ver_4 #14 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 11:35

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Good thing I did all the missions on the T55A except for two last missions, LT-15 and TD-15. It's been a pain in the buttocks so I just stopped trying for a while. Then get back to it when I feel like trying again.

AMSRocker #15 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 11:52

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I think ALL of the missions should have a major review. This last patch was a major change to the MM and that directly effects the personal misssions

Genada #16 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 12:18

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I have the T 55.

 

ALL the missions in the game need to be looked at and changed to being based off of skill not random luck mm. 

 

Many of the missions are just based off that alone and you end up doing lots and lots of matches trying for the perfect set up to do a mission, then get the set up and being very disappointed when something goes wrong and you do not get the mission done. It's poor design, it's not fun.

 

 



doogie9982 #17 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 12:21

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I'm stuck in this mission as well.  With the new MM I don't think you have any real shot at completing his mission in anything higher than a tier VIII medium.  Even then you need MM to cooperate.

Ironclad455 #18 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 12:57

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The best time to do it is when they have some free TD premium thing going on.  I knocked it out when the had the free 'scorpions' thing going on with my VK 3001D.  

 

It is one of those missions, though, that you need to focus on to have a chance of completing it.



Canadian_Reaper #19 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 13:04

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Did it after teh patch with a T-3485M killing a E-25 and a Emil, (and a Skorp G)

MM still allows the match up,  it may be slightly skewed by teh number of light tanks and arty that's around still, but imo there's nothing wrong with the mission.

(As opposed to the arty ones, which seem to be a joke now compared to what they used to be)



F0R_M07H3R_RU5514 #20 Posted Apr 27 2017 - 13:06

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A VERY interesting issue to note.  You used to be, for example, up-tier your platoon mates to help ensure a higher opportunity of success.  i.e. a Tier 8 medium, with two tier 9 Tank Destroyers ... now you can't structure your platoon with different tiers.




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