_Gungrave_, on May 19 2017 - 13:32, said:
Oh I read that part, I just wanted to "poke the bear" and see how you would react given the nature of this thread.
but since you want to act condescending let the logic war begin.
I'm highly doubtful they use any sort of automatic detection considering how difficult it is to make one not to mention how inneffective they are these days. Its worth noting that most of the cheaters I've heard of got banned from replay submissions with some even in the pro leagues. If Wargaming ACTUALLY used an active anti cheat system they would be reporting a hell of a lot more bans than the past few ban reports show I'm sure.
Was it arty? you forgot to mention that and if so case closed because for experienced players arty drowning themselves is basically a game mechanic at this point and an accepted norm. I don't think anyone I've reported for drowning their arty ever got a ban for doing so.
They use something called Memory...you know where they memorize the reload of a tank based upon what gun they're using or if its an autoloader. There is also a mod that tells the approximate reload time which is accepted and legal but you can't have any that tell the exact reload time.
I've played roughly 87% of the tanks in the game with the exception of premiums and reward tanks but I'm quite familiar with the reload times for most tanks and this allows me to completely toy with my opponent when I know what gun they're using on a certain tank.
Thats called "coincidence" because in order for them to actually know that you've switched rounds or you're clipping in an autoloader they would need access to the server data which would automatically get them banned and likely in legal trouble for hacking a server.
This is the only point you've made that is logical because the spotting system needs to be rebuilt given how outdated it is along with all the potential bugs I've experienced.
Illegal mods have always been used its not like they went down in popularity and then made a comeback.
as for the APCR/HEAT "abuse" there really is no abuse at all because if you got the credits and want to use it then go right ahead.
*The problem is that when you send in replays and issues of hacking, team damage, team killing and so forth, they usually just respond with robotic answers such as this one which happened in one of those "send in the replay" ordeals -_- when commenting of someone using an illegal mod or accusation of such a method. Sorry for the crap-quality. not a fan of photobucket, really wish they'd accept pu.ush. I removed names to avoid being complained about for that crap, as i had a forum locked for that before.
After i recieved 6 of these types of responses over the last few years, I've given up trying to use the support desk for pretty much anything involving in-game problems pertaining to players. I do send in technical issues though as they do seem to get fixed... eventually.
*No, it wasn't artillery, don't get me wrong they suicide alot when the game is going to crap, but i haven't seen them killing off themselves as of late (to be dead honest i haven't seen many matches since the artillery changes that even had artillery in them... It's a rather odd feeling when you do several matches in a row without artillery in 'em. I didn't mention them because i legitimately forgot to.
*Sorry, but i still call it crap... even if they do remember the reload times or use an estimation reload (which honestly seems a bit on the "farfetched" side). If you SWITCH ammo you don't fire it when you double tap the number or reload using C, and i did make that clear in the main post. When a tank can come around the corner, knowing you're reloading somehow when you didn't fire the shell at all, peg you multiple times (bounce or pen) and then retreat within 1-2 seconds of you reloading completed, there's something problematic at foot.
*Illegal mods always being used and being in high popularity doesn't make it right, nor any less "okay" to have happen.
*Been around since 2011. I preferred the old method of gold for special ammo, which made public matches more "think before you shoot" rather than "fire and forget" like it is now. But like i said, that's an entirely different rant as it implies the changes done by wargaming rather than mod-packs and their resurgence with capable illegal mods.
Nunya_000, on May 19 2017 - 13:38, said:
Your belief that illegal mods are "tied" to XVM or individual mod packs is what is implying that you do not understand what XVM is or how it works. All of the most common cheat mods (and I have no doubt some do use cheat mods...though how rampant is debatable) are stand-alone and do not need XVM to work. From what I understand, all of the popular mod pack (Aslain's and QB's etc) go to great length to insure no illegal mods are part of their pack.
While I can not testify to what went on prior to 8.6, since I have been playing, it has been impossible to mod the game to shoot through map items (ie. rocks). Map items are handled server side and can not be affected by mods. If someone shot you through a rock, it is because of a map error and not because of a mod.
You don't need a screenshot....a replay will do. However, almost everybody that makes claims similar to yours never seem to provide screenshots or replays. There is always some excuse: "I don't save replays"...."The forum will not support the imager I use". As I said, I have no doubt some cheats are still being used. However, I have never once found a situation in my battles where I have said "Yep....that guy is definitely cheating". Testimony of clan-mates...or claims of "I saw it" normally do not hold much weight as many people see what they want to see....or find excuses for why they failed. "The guy pulled back behind a rock just as I targeted him....he must be using a laser cheat mod or a reload timer". BTW, the reload timers do not start when you switch rounds. They start when you are hit. They do not even start when you are fired at....you must be hit. From what I understand, WG has blocked reload timers that show actual reload times and timers that show stock reload times are not illegal....but I could be wrong about that.
If you want to be taken seriously, come to the forums with more than "I feels". Without that, you are just another person making unsubstantiated claims that lack proof or believably.
*With how few players download XVM as a standalone (due to how long it would take when there are prepackaged versions) they usually are tied to other mods that push what is right and wrong.
To be honest i just don't enjoy posting replays. What usually ends up happening is players will look at how you played overall rather than the situation you actually are arguing about. I've got quite a few replays posted up on my Youtube (RazgrizKnight. They won't let me post it if i connect my youtube account/link to the post, sorry ) Which is where i post good games, "wth" moments and occasional questionable incidents along with other games. I do save replays, i've been doing so for years now and clear it out monthly to keep my hard drive from being completely devoured by the files. And i prefer using pu.ush, which Wargaming doesn't trust, because it keeps the image clarity, unlike that crap photobucket does (see image above in the spoiler. Which also explains why i don't go to the support desk.)
I come here with information backing my claims, i prefer to keep my posts from being more than 3 pages long, as you end up with a train (like what started here) which is "oh hey the first comment is talking crap about the OP, i can't bother to read that so i'll just agree with the 1st post!" :/ you and Gungrave are the only two of this bunch thus far to show any actual intelligence, so i do have to say thanks for at least making this a exercise of my patience while keeping it civil. I appreciate it
Edited by Lycan_Knight, May 19 2017 - 20:16.