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Quemapueblos #1 Posted May 31 2017 - 16:37

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Hello Tankers,

 

Today we launched patch 0.9.19 and we want to hear your feedback! There are separate topics for major 0.9.19 changes, please leave all feedback for Ranked Battles in this thread. 

There is a separate topic for New Equipment and Directives

 

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Overview of 0.9.19 Patch Notes

Full Patch Notes Here



Harkonen_siegetank #2 Posted May 31 2017 - 16:39

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Bonds....bad idea.

Insurrectional_Leftist #3 Posted May 31 2017 - 16:42

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If I understand correctly, this equipment can be moved to other battle modes.  Ex: Random battles.  How is that good for game balance?  And how does that help the other battle modes?  Can someone explain how that flies in the face of all the past work and efforts to achieve tank balance, and player balance over the course, and philosophy of and throughout the game, please ??

Edited by Insurrectional_Leftist, May 31 2017 - 16:44.


Silversound #4 Posted May 31 2017 - 16:44

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We already told you. You just don't actually care enough to comment.

And though mostly related to bonds, I think you can get a clear idea either way.

 

http://forum.worldof...-a-simple-poll/

 

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_GeorgePreddy #5 Posted May 31 2017 - 16:50

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Superior equipment... only obtainable by very good players with tier ten tanks, but usable in any tier random battles is a terrible idea.

haraka #6 Posted May 31 2017 - 16:55

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release a patch and cant play until june 5th how dumb

Buck_SargeE5 #7 Posted May 31 2017 - 16:59

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View Post_GeorgePreddy, on May 31 2017 - 10:50, said:

Superior equipment... only obtainable by very good players with tier ten tanks, but usable in any tier random battles is a terrible idea.

 

This should be obvious!  The whole idea is moronic.

HI_FIVE #8 Posted May 31 2017 - 17:03

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View PostSilversound, on May 31 2017 - 10:44, said:

We already told you. You just don't actually care enough to comment.

And though mostly related to bonds, I think you can get a clear idea either way.

 

http://forum.worldof...-a-simple-poll/

 

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lol you just dont give up do u? It is not even available yet and you are all over the forums crying about it

ThePigSheFlies #9 Posted May 31 2017 - 17:05

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the description of the way ya'll are running the 'seasons' makes it so unappealing that the dangling carrot of the rewards and/or even the bigger maps aren't likely to draw me in.  doesn't help that I couldn't even leave the garage to attempt it on test, like a TON of people stuck in garage, couldn't leave "joining battle" queue...

 

:(

 

and some of the replies in this thread are huge knee jerk reactions waiting to be moderated.  there's this thread for ranked battles feedback, and the linked thread for discussion about the equipment...



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View PostHI_FIVE, on May 31 2017 - 09:03, said:

 

lol you just dont give up do u? It is not even available yet and you are all over the forums crying about it

 

In case you haven't noticed, this is a thread created for the express purpose of allowing people to give their feedback on these changes. Thus, the feedback he is giving is in the right and proper place. If you don't like his feedback, give your own or leave the thread.

 

As far as my opinions. I like the idea of Ranked battles but not the implementation. In my opinion, progression in these ranked battles is still far to dependent on winrate, which, over the short seasons can be wildly erratic as we all know. If you really want a competitive, ranked, battle mode, you need to make it more about personal skill and less about team performance.

There is also the problem of allowing the improved equipment into random battles, but there's another thread for that.



Ironbutt2015 #11 Posted May 31 2017 - 17:08

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Rank Battles - Not interested in them myself but if others like that kind of thing I am fine with it.  Same with Clan War things.

 

Bonds and Superior Equipment - Absolutely not if the equipment is to be allowed into Random Battles.  Only allow such things to be active perhaps for ranked battles.  To do otherwise would make the game even more unbalanced and therefore unenjoyable for other players.  The best part about this game and attracted my family and friends to it is that everyone has direct access to the same tanks and equipment i.e. fair and balanced.  To allow a very small group to be able to pound on others more efficiently is daft.

 

If you want to do anything to make players happy 1.  make more maps, 2.  get rid of premium ammo, 3.  get rid of cheats like XVM, 4.  tweak the armor on the type 5 and Maus down a bit not as much as the 110E5 as that was too much of a nerf.  Just my 2 cents.  Note:  waiting on renewing subscription to see what change is implemented.

 

Even better idea is to create some maps whose grid sections can be put together at random in an effort to balance the game more and prevent map studying.  ie everyone gets a map that they have never seen before.  

 



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View Post_GeorgePreddy, on May 31 2017 - 15:50, said:

Superior equipment... only obtainable by very good players with tier ten tanks, but usable in any tier random battles is a terrible idea.

 

can't wait to pimp out my type 64

Morty__ #13 Posted May 31 2017 - 17:15

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Special equipment to make the best players even better is a bad idea. Good players already have enough advantages by being good, by having better crews, and by earning more credits to spend on regular equipment and premium ammo.

Edited by morty_viking, May 31 2017 - 17:15.


PapercutOfDeath #14 Posted May 31 2017 - 17:17

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Worst idea yet

Lowtech4 #15 Posted May 31 2017 - 17:27

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Hey WG this isn't hard. You have a problem with a binary solution. Either keep all the Ranked Battles stuff in Ranked battles or people will be leaving in droves. If this is what you want so be it.

 

I understand that the Pubs are there because they're marginally more fun for the Special Players to beat up on then bots...but there are limits.

 

And this is it.

 

It's your game and we all have a choice, but you might want to rethink what you want vs what will most likely happen.



IX_Zann #16 Posted May 31 2017 - 17:33

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Not something I wanted. But I think I will curtail playing the game after 5+ years. WT has become too frustrating and disappointing.

 

I think I will TES Online or one of the Conan MMO's and another chance. Perhaps even War Thunder. Something else will provide the fun and challenge WT is no longer capable of proving. Oh, I will continue to logon once a day or so out of curiosity. But I won't miss the frustration and disappointment. 



Led_D_Spencer #17 Posted May 31 2017 - 17:34

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you dont really want our opinion because you already know it, NO bonds in random battles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

is a reason your other games and game modes fail.

tanks is special and it may fail to if you arent carefull!!!!!!!!

new maps new maps new maps 



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No superior equipment in random battles thats all...

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View PostHI_FIVE, on May 31 2017 - 09:03, said:

 

lol you just dont give up do u? It is not even available yet and you are all over the forums crying about it

 

Hmmmm..... at this point he has 6 upvotes. At this point you have none and don't expect any.

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View PostQuemapueblos, on May 31 2017 - 10:37, said:

Hello Tankers,

 

Today we launched patch 0.9.19 and we want to hear your feedback! There are separate topics for major 0.9.19 changes, please leave all feedback for Ranked Battles in this thread. 

There is a separate topic for New Equipment and Directives

 

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Overview of 0.9.19 Patch Notes

Full Patch Notes Here

 

Seriously. Another patch that has nothing that will benefit the game. Trying a new MM is the only thing this patch has going for it. How about: new maps (yes bigger maps are coming but 30v30 really? I feel like I'm already in some games for far too long).physics that make the game more appealing (weather, wind, buildings that fall down and can be used as cover or camp), get rid of proxy lighting as it's not a real thing. Arty which only needed a little adjusting; now they are even more annoying. Piggyback off arty; fix RNG. RNG should not even be a thing. If you shoot a gun the only thing that will affect the projectile once it leaves the barrel is the outside elements, distance traveled and the curvature of the earth. Think back to when this game was appealing. All people wanted to do was play different tanks from different nationalities with different mods. The appeal was DIFFERENT tanks. Unbalanacing will make the game balanced again. Most of us in the military know that a 180 artillery round hitting a tank would one shot it so why take away from that. WG YOU HAVE LOST FOCUS.





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