Still, it needs a gun buff or lower glacis buff(at least make it impossible to pen in under 20m for taller tier 8s such as Tiger 2) to around the level of "shoulders."
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#341 Posted May 15 2013 - 01:19
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With HEAT nerf, suddenly IS-7's APCR does not seem that bad anymore(unless at max range).
Still, it needs a gun buff or lower glacis buff(at least make it impossible to pen in under 20m for taller tier 8s such as Tiger 2) to around the level of "shoulders."
Still, it needs a gun buff or lower glacis buff(at least make it impossible to pen in under 20m for taller tier 8s such as Tiger 2) to around the level of "shoulders."
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Lapland, on May 12 2013 - 22:03, said:
I can argue that the IS-7 doesn't need a direct buff to it's S-70 gun in terms of sheer damage and penetration. I'd much rather have the S-70 suit the IS-7's general mobility and armor.
The IS-7has some pretty high terrain resistance according to the WoTDB app on the Android. I mean, take it with a grain of salt but I wouldn't doubt considering how slowly the IS-7 tends to move even on hard terrain. It has 1.3 for hard, 1.8 for medium, and 3.1 for soft. Yeah, that 15.21~15.4 HP/Ton is entirely negated by its terrain resistance. Weird how the +100 ton E-100 and Maus beat out the IS-7 in terms of terrain resistances. I suppose this is WG telling us that if you want the legendary mobility of the real IS-7, better get Lend-Lease Fuel, Removed Speed Governor, and Off-Road Driving, which I find to be entirely wasteful.
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The IS-7has some pretty high terrain resistance according to the WoTDB app on the Android. I mean, take it with a grain of salt but I wouldn't doubt considering how slowly the IS-7 tends to move even on hard terrain. It has 1.3 for hard, 1.8 for medium, and 3.1 for soft. Yeah, that 15.21~15.4 HP/Ton is entirely negated by its terrain resistance. Weird how the +100 ton E-100 and Maus beat out the IS-7 in terms of terrain resistances. I suppose this is WG telling us that if you want the legendary mobility of the real IS-7, better get Lend-Lease Fuel, Removed Speed Governor, and Off-Road Driving, which I find to be entirely wasteful.
Exactly, I seriously keep up with IS7s when driving offroad in my E-100, at least my E-100 does 30 or near it on all non water terrain, and only slows down when turning or going up a hill - but IS7 loses MORE speed than my E-100 when turning! It makes NO F'ING SENSE!!!
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I mean it STILL makes ABSOLUTELY no sense that the IS7 is so much slower than the T62A - I KNOW in the GAME it has the WORST ground resistance of nearly any tank - which AGAIN MAKES NO SENSE! The IS7 weighs 69 (68.99) tons with all the equipment I have on it, my E50M weighs about 62 tons with all the equipment I have on it and such - sure the E50M has better power to weight - AND a disproportionately better ground resistance profile (don't get me wrong I am FULLY happy with how my E50M performs since the armor angle buff) - but WHY? It weighs NEARLY the same as the IS7 but it easily turns 44 deg/s in even some of the softest terrain (basically as long as it is not in water) - as well the Obj. 263 (the tank with the same gun with just a different muzzle brake on it) turns downright FAST on almost all terrain. Like i said in my last post, it feels like my E-100, at 131.46 tons, loses less speed and still turns nearly the same speed in some of the softest terrain conditions (again I am not complaining, it needs to be able to angle to incoming rounds)
But I AM complaining that a tank that is in ALL WAYS lighter and faster having such a HORRIBLE "Ground Resistance Profile" - there is NO LOGICAL REASON FOR IT! Same goes for the damned retarded S70 vs S70A differences - they are, by definition the EXACT SAME DAMNED GUN! The only difference about the Obj. 263 version is that it has a different mount and different muzzle-brake. I can see adding a little more regular pen (but APCR should be the same) and a good bit better RoF - as it should be considering the room the crew has in the 263, and slightly better accuracy - again for mounting, crew, and room reasons. Other than that the guns should be nearly IDENTICAL (IT SHOULD LOOK MORE LIKE THIS!: S70 = .36 acc and 2.9 Aim-time S70A = .32 acc and 2.5 aim-time) and of course a BIG diff in RoF - perhaps lower IS7 to about 4.2 RoF with .36 acc, 2.9 aim-time, 266 AP pen, 330 APCR, identical HE (like 750 DMG and I forget pen) with 550 average damage. And either stiffen lower glacis or add HP to IS7 to about 2.3-2.4k.
Right now the 113 beats the IS7 is every department other than frontal armor when being shot at from above (the 68 deg slant on the 113 is negated if you are way higher than him and are shooting down - whereas the pike design on IS7 works against attacks from above - still weaker than level attacks but good) Apart from that sort of scenario, the 113 has EVERY advantage when facing an enemy IS7 - using its superior RoF and better acc and aim-time it likely could tear an IS7 apart frontally without using premium - but add its 400 pen HEAT to the mix and the 113 with it's 2.3k HP, amazing frontal turret and 120mm frontal hull that is so close to auto-bounce that all it need is to show a little side and nearly the entire and sliver of side is all auto-bounce!
EVEN IF both IS7 and 113 pen each other in a blow-for-blow fashion, the 113 will quickly win with its superior DPM AND it having a full 150 more HP. And again on level or nearly level (If the IS7 happens to be a little lower than 113 that mean auto-bounce unless the 113 shows its TINY little lower glacis) ground the 68 degree slant of 120mm of a steel plate over doubles its effective armor - and again will course not only odd random bounces - but with the right angling - as I have done on beta servers, the 113 can achieve basically full auto-bounce for a comparatively wide angle of incoming shells - as well I have watched it bounce an arty shell in the 30 or so beta games I played in it.
But I AM complaining that a tank that is in ALL WAYS lighter and faster having such a HORRIBLE "Ground Resistance Profile" - there is NO LOGICAL REASON FOR IT! Same goes for the damned retarded S70 vs S70A differences - they are, by definition the EXACT SAME DAMNED GUN! The only difference about the Obj. 263 version is that it has a different mount and different muzzle-brake. I can see adding a little more regular pen (but APCR should be the same) and a good bit better RoF - as it should be considering the room the crew has in the 263, and slightly better accuracy - again for mounting, crew, and room reasons. Other than that the guns should be nearly IDENTICAL (IT SHOULD LOOK MORE LIKE THIS!: S70 = .36 acc and 2.9 Aim-time S70A = .32 acc and 2.5 aim-time) and of course a BIG diff in RoF - perhaps lower IS7 to about 4.2 RoF with .36 acc, 2.9 aim-time, 266 AP pen, 330 APCR, identical HE (like 750 DMG and I forget pen) with 550 average damage. And either stiffen lower glacis or add HP to IS7 to about 2.3-2.4k.
Right now the 113 beats the IS7 is every department other than frontal armor when being shot at from above (the 68 deg slant on the 113 is negated if you are way higher than him and are shooting down - whereas the pike design on IS7 works against attacks from above - still weaker than level attacks but good) Apart from that sort of scenario, the 113 has EVERY advantage when facing an enemy IS7 - using its superior RoF and better acc and aim-time it likely could tear an IS7 apart frontally without using premium - but add its 400 pen HEAT to the mix and the 113 with it's 2.3k HP, amazing frontal turret and 120mm frontal hull that is so close to auto-bounce that all it need is to show a little side and nearly the entire and sliver of side is all auto-bounce!
EVEN IF both IS7 and 113 pen each other in a blow-for-blow fashion, the 113 will quickly win with its superior DPM AND it having a full 150 more HP. And again on level or nearly level (If the IS7 happens to be a little lower than 113 that mean auto-bounce unless the 113 shows its TINY little lower glacis) ground the 68 degree slant of 120mm of a steel plate over doubles its effective armor - and again will course not only odd random bounces - but with the right angling - as I have done on beta servers, the 113 can achieve basically full auto-bounce for a comparatively wide angle of incoming shells - as well I have watched it bounce an arty shell in the 30 or so beta games I played in it.
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Anybody got on test server, to see if there are any changes in 8.6 for IS-7?
#345 Posted Jun 01 2013 - 21:46
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Very Beautiful tank.
#346 Posted Jun 02 2013 - 19:25
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Every tank in the new patch seems to move a bit faster, but the IS7 still is awfull to play, it is move still slow, and the armor is the same crap, the unique good thing is the change om accuracy mechanics, that allow to archive more hits when you aim in the rigth place. But I was waiting for a buff on this tank(movility at least) but our devs are worried about birds in the maps not in a propper balance to this game.
Excuse my english.
Excuse my english.
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I'm new to the IS-7 and have gotten One Shotted WTwice in the last 10 days!
Once by another IS-7 & once by an E-100.
Wow they were both frontal shots too!
Once by another IS-7 & once by an E-100.
Wow they were both frontal shots too!
#348 Posted Jun 04 2013 - 21:59
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Shtirlec, on May 30 2013 - 23:53, said:
Anybody got on test server, to see if there are any changes in 8.6 for IS-7?
There are no reported direct changes to the IS-7 save that the standard ammo got like, 10mm of pen shaved off. Big deal.
However, the IS-7 was indirectly buffed by the HEAT and normalization mechanics changes. HEAT is now less effective against spaced armor, and sub-caliber stuff is now less effective against sloped armor.
Since the IS-7 relies on its slope, and does not rely on HEAT, and didn't get its gold ammo nerfed at all, it is perhaps looking a little better relative to its stablemates than before.
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Spartacus1968, on Jun 03 2013 - 15:44, said:
I'm new to the IS-7 and have gotten One Shotted WTwice in the last 10 days!
Once by another IS-7 & once by an E-100.
Wow they were both frontal shots too!
Once by another IS-7 & once by an E-100.
Wow they were both frontal shots too!
You should have had it since IS-3.
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ComradeHX, on Jun 04 2013 - 22:05, said:
Does your loader have Safe Stowage?
You should have had it since IS-3.
You should have had it since IS-3.
Not Yet, Its 68%.
New crew with my IS-7...
I Kept My IS-3!!!
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Spartacus1968, on Jun 06 2013 - 16:43, said:
Not Yet, Its 68%.
New crew with my IS-7...
I Kept My IS-3!!!
New crew with my IS-7...
I Kept My IS-3!!!
That makes more sense because top tier tank needs that multi-skill crew.
Anyway, my IS-7 has not had detonation of ammorack yet.
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I've never had any catastrophic ammo detonations in my IS-7. I've had a few freak fires (on a Soviet tank! and my driver has preventative maintenance!) that cost me some intra-clan tournament duels.
I have, however, been blown to little pieces from the first shot I took all game in my IS-4. From the front. By a VK 45.02 (B).
Stupid OP German tanks and their nuclear ammunition...
I have, however, been blown to little pieces from the first shot I took all game in my IS-4. From the front. By a VK 45.02 (B).
Stupid OP German tanks and their nuclear ammunition...
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The IS7 is still shite in 8.6, I am pissed. The devs are morons... "Let's nerf everything"
Now meds are the most useful tanks by far - at least if the changes made in the current 8.6 stick.
I'm really getting tired of this crap. Fking birds, but no balance.
CW is now, likely, going to turn into nothing but T10 Meds, TDs, Arty, and maybe an E-100 or Maus or two - as with all the nerfing they are really the only worthwhile heavies now - their pen did not take a hit at all (334 HEAT now is nearly as high as any T10 non-TD goes) - and they are the only 2 t10 heavies that can mount the uber-badass Super-heavy Spall liner -50% HE and ramming dmg.
Like I said, birds, nerf, and no balance - EVER!
Now meds are the most useful tanks by far - at least if the changes made in the current 8.6 stick.
I'm really getting tired of this crap. Fking birds, but no balance.
CW is now, likely, going to turn into nothing but T10 Meds, TDs, Arty, and maybe an E-100 or Maus or two - as with all the nerfing they are really the only worthwhile heavies now - their pen did not take a hit at all (334 HEAT now is nearly as high as any T10 non-TD goes) - and they are the only 2 t10 heavies that can mount the uber-badass Super-heavy Spall liner -50% HE and ramming dmg.
Like I said, birds, nerf, and no balance - EVER!
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On that note, I really think it is time I go back to playing League of Legends, and maybe try out War Thunder finally. At least LoL does not compel me to waste money so frequently... Figures I start working the T110E5 line and it plays like garbage in 8.6...
Well, the T110E5 is alright still, but the IS7 is worse than ever, I said i would never sell another Tier 10 tank, but I am thinking it is about time to unload that pile of shite
Well, the T110E5 is alright still, but the IS7 is worse than ever, I said i would never sell another Tier 10 tank, but I am thinking it is about time to unload that pile of shite
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As far as catastrophic ammo explosions, I have had mine blow up twice in the 9 matches I have played IS7 in the Beta - from the front like everyone else. I have had it happen to me about 3 or 4 times total - from the front over half of them.
On the other side - I have blown up about 2 or 3 in my E-100 using HEAT.
On the other side - I have blown up about 2 or 3 in my E-100 using HEAT.
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WHEN are these idiottic developers going to realize, a tank with an armor layout such as the IS7, with such low HP, NEEDS an accurate gun that can out DPM most other heavies, or at VERY least, out alpha them with 550 average damage.
The tank NEEDS more HP, more accuracy (as it's armor is damned near useless at 150m and closer - and the cannon is useless past 150m, ESPECIALLY in 8.6! Which is why the IS7 is FAR worse than ever, god damned if you can pen shit with AP at all, and lucky to pen with 303 APCR - as you are unable to aim fully EVEN with a vert. stab., Vent, 100% snap shot, 100% Smooth ride, and BiA (among many others including 100% safe stowage - yet I still get blown up in 1 shot in 8.5 AND 8.6) - but those are the ones that effect accuracy and aim-time, WITH ALL THAT =121% gunner with 105% snap shot and smooth ride, a friggen Vert. Stab. and the general arty nerf in 8.6 - I ALWAYS GET SLAMMED TO HELL IF I TRY TO FULLY ZOOM IN ON A TARGET! F'ING ARTY AIMS NEARLY AS FAST AS I DO APPARENTLY!
The IS7 is THE WORST T10, period. Especially in 8,6. It is followed CLOSELY by IS4 which often suffers fires - but occaisonally catastrophic ammo explosion. NTM IS4 armor is a joke, I easily pen it with my BatChat, E50M, and E-100 using HEAT no matter how it angles - as it's "Cheek" armor that is nigh impervious from straight on - along with its entirely flat side, you almost ALYWAS have something that is easy to pen to shoot at! I will admit IS4 is better than IS7 in most ways, but at least with a slight hull-down, the IS7 can bounce shots from the front at least 20 deg from the pike either way unless premium ammo is used. The IS4 must hull down to at least the welded shut viewport - which was a weakness when it was a T9 - now it is the strongest point in the front hull - though of course, IF said IS4 is able to achieve such hulldown, it can deflect shots from a MUCH wider angle than the IS7.
And at least in 8.6 IS4 still has servicable pen for its much more accurate and quicker aiming gun, 258, where the POS COMPLETELY useless IS7 S70 gets only 250 pen while retaining its INSANELY long aim-time of 3.4 sec and HORRIBLE accuracy of .4 - and neither tank can mount a super-heavy spall (of course in an IS7 you would have to be nuts not to mount a rammer and vert. stab, and IMHO a vent as well - only way to make crew perform 21% better than specs once u have BiA)
Both tanks become much more useless, really... The T110E5 retains, and in fact, I believe, flourishes with such nerfs. It's gun being .35 accurate with only 2 second aimtime, coupled with its extreme agility, 259 AP pen works wonderfully! Since it takes no time to zoom fully and the tank has such amazing frontal armor, it is IMHO the one of only heavies *Edit* Of course now the E-100 and Maus are great "Super-heavies* and worth owning as well (Well, the AMX 50B, and possibly the 113 will be the only other heavies worth owning after such nerfs) worth shite anymore!! I literally took an entire clip from a T57 heavy using HEAT and got only tracked - face on from about 60m! I, in the meantime had shot and penned him twice while he unloaded on me, I then untracked, and chased him down and killed him. Using ONLY AP and taking 0 DMG from him! Stupid T57, tried to back away after wasting a clip on me, but the T57 is actually slower in either direction than the E5!
On the other side, an AMX 50B with its APCR premium unloaded a clip on me frontally in another match, only 1 shot did not damage me! And in both situations I was hulled down enough to hide almost all my lower glacis - with just the strong beak part showing. Thing is - APCR esp. close up will pierce that 257mm thick beak easlily, where HEAT will almost always bounce do to the great angling. APCR is in all ways a superior round to HEAT.
Now that being said, the IS7 APCR is only 303mm avg, and the gun, has the worsat accuracy of anything at tier 10 that is not arty. So, it is still useless. They improved the dynamincs of large shell penetration ESPECIALLY on large shell HEAT! So the E-100 is now more efffective than ever!
Even with all the NERFS the IS7 is still useless...
At least my E-100 will now become the juggernaut destroyer it should have always been! I am working towards the T110E5 now - but after that I am thinking it is time I got a T10 TD, and I LOVE the 268! And after that, if I make lots of money I will convert my way to getting a T62A as MEDS are now better than heavies, and the T62A and FV4202 are my next 2 favorite meds after the BatChat 25t and E-50M. I MAY get an AMX 50B someday, as I have tried both that and the T57 extensively - and the AMX50B's agaility combined with its superior premium round has ALWAYS gotten me much better results than the T57, NTM the 50B is now stronger by far in the frontal hulll (170mm at GREAT angle with no lower glacis, where T57 is 209 beak with highly angled 127mm upper, with 110mm lower hull!) The 50B also has 20mm spaced side hull for exhaust - which prevents a 150mm+ cannon from over-matching! And in 8.6, it feels that the turret ring and gun mantlet on the AMX50B is at least as strong as the T57's! I really think the 50B is superior to the T57 in nearly all ways, sure it takes ,7 sec longer between shots and slightly longer to reload- BUT it will do -23 km/h in reverse in about 2 seconds, where the T57 struggles to make -12 km/h in reverse! And the 50B has it beat hands down in turning both tracks and turret, as well as forward acceleration and speed! All this has lead to me having a 67% overall win in the 50B with 37 kills in 17 matches with 56% survival rate. The T57 on the other hand - with the same crew and modules and consumables has earned me a 48% win in 12 battles with 10 kills and a 14% survival.
I USED to think the T57 was OP, now I laugh at it, and kill them often in T10 battles! Sure I HAVE been killed by them, and some people do really well IN them, but to me, it has nothing on the 50B overall.
Of course this is all opinion, and time will tell what 8.6 will show as far as overall win% on both tanks. But none of that matters to me, I know I have the best autoloader already - the batchat 25t, but I wanted a heavy one with a 120mm gun - I would go for the AMX50B hands down.
The tank NEEDS more HP, more accuracy (as it's armor is damned near useless at 150m and closer - and the cannon is useless past 150m, ESPECIALLY in 8.6! Which is why the IS7 is FAR worse than ever, god damned if you can pen shit with AP at all, and lucky to pen with 303 APCR - as you are unable to aim fully EVEN with a vert. stab., Vent, 100% snap shot, 100% Smooth ride, and BiA (among many others including 100% safe stowage - yet I still get blown up in 1 shot in 8.5 AND 8.6) - but those are the ones that effect accuracy and aim-time, WITH ALL THAT =121% gunner with 105% snap shot and smooth ride, a friggen Vert. Stab. and the general arty nerf in 8.6 - I ALWAYS GET SLAMMED TO HELL IF I TRY TO FULLY ZOOM IN ON A TARGET! F'ING ARTY AIMS NEARLY AS FAST AS I DO APPARENTLY!
The IS7 is THE WORST T10, period. Especially in 8,6. It is followed CLOSELY by IS4 which often suffers fires - but occaisonally catastrophic ammo explosion. NTM IS4 armor is a joke, I easily pen it with my BatChat, E50M, and E-100 using HEAT no matter how it angles - as it's "Cheek" armor that is nigh impervious from straight on - along with its entirely flat side, you almost ALYWAS have something that is easy to pen to shoot at! I will admit IS4 is better than IS7 in most ways, but at least with a slight hull-down, the IS7 can bounce shots from the front at least 20 deg from the pike either way unless premium ammo is used. The IS4 must hull down to at least the welded shut viewport - which was a weakness when it was a T9 - now it is the strongest point in the front hull - though of course, IF said IS4 is able to achieve such hulldown, it can deflect shots from a MUCH wider angle than the IS7.
And at least in 8.6 IS4 still has servicable pen for its much more accurate and quicker aiming gun, 258, where the POS COMPLETELY useless IS7 S70 gets only 250 pen while retaining its INSANELY long aim-time of 3.4 sec and HORRIBLE accuracy of .4 - and neither tank can mount a super-heavy spall (of course in an IS7 you would have to be nuts not to mount a rammer and vert. stab, and IMHO a vent as well - only way to make crew perform 21% better than specs once u have BiA)
Both tanks become much more useless, really... The T110E5 retains, and in fact, I believe, flourishes with such nerfs. It's gun being .35 accurate with only 2 second aimtime, coupled with its extreme agility, 259 AP pen works wonderfully! Since it takes no time to zoom fully and the tank has such amazing frontal armor, it is IMHO the one of only heavies *Edit* Of course now the E-100 and Maus are great "Super-heavies* and worth owning as well (Well, the AMX 50B, and possibly the 113 will be the only other heavies worth owning after such nerfs) worth shite anymore!! I literally took an entire clip from a T57 heavy using HEAT and got only tracked - face on from about 60m! I, in the meantime had shot and penned him twice while he unloaded on me, I then untracked, and chased him down and killed him. Using ONLY AP and taking 0 DMG from him! Stupid T57, tried to back away after wasting a clip on me, but the T57 is actually slower in either direction than the E5!
On the other side, an AMX 50B with its APCR premium unloaded a clip on me frontally in another match, only 1 shot did not damage me! And in both situations I was hulled down enough to hide almost all my lower glacis - with just the strong beak part showing. Thing is - APCR esp. close up will pierce that 257mm thick beak easlily, where HEAT will almost always bounce do to the great angling. APCR is in all ways a superior round to HEAT.
Now that being said, the IS7 APCR is only 303mm avg, and the gun, has the worsat accuracy of anything at tier 10 that is not arty. So, it is still useless. They improved the dynamincs of large shell penetration ESPECIALLY on large shell HEAT! So the E-100 is now more efffective than ever!
Even with all the NERFS the IS7 is still useless...
At least my E-100 will now become the juggernaut destroyer it should have always been! I am working towards the T110E5 now - but after that I am thinking it is time I got a T10 TD, and I LOVE the 268! And after that, if I make lots of money I will convert my way to getting a T62A as MEDS are now better than heavies, and the T62A and FV4202 are my next 2 favorite meds after the BatChat 25t and E-50M. I MAY get an AMX 50B someday, as I have tried both that and the T57 extensively - and the AMX50B's agaility combined with its superior premium round has ALWAYS gotten me much better results than the T57, NTM the 50B is now stronger by far in the frontal hulll (170mm at GREAT angle with no lower glacis, where T57 is 209 beak with highly angled 127mm upper, with 110mm lower hull!) The 50B also has 20mm spaced side hull for exhaust - which prevents a 150mm+ cannon from over-matching! And in 8.6, it feels that the turret ring and gun mantlet on the AMX50B is at least as strong as the T57's! I really think the 50B is superior to the T57 in nearly all ways, sure it takes ,7 sec longer between shots and slightly longer to reload- BUT it will do -23 km/h in reverse in about 2 seconds, where the T57 struggles to make -12 km/h in reverse! And the 50B has it beat hands down in turning both tracks and turret, as well as forward acceleration and speed! All this has lead to me having a 67% overall win in the 50B with 37 kills in 17 matches with 56% survival rate. The T57 on the other hand - with the same crew and modules and consumables has earned me a 48% win in 12 battles with 10 kills and a 14% survival.
I USED to think the T57 was OP, now I laugh at it, and kill them often in T10 battles! Sure I HAVE been killed by them, and some people do really well IN them, but to me, it has nothing on the 50B overall.
Of course this is all opinion, and time will tell what 8.6 will show as far as overall win% on both tanks. But none of that matters to me, I know I have the best autoloader already - the batchat 25t, but I wanted a heavy one with a 120mm gun - I would go for the AMX50B hands down.
Edited by DysphoricSmile, Jun 13 2013 - 20:01.
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I haven't played tanks in like 6 months, but wtf...
What have they done to my IS7? I've never sold a tier X, but I'm contemplating on selling this piece of crap.
What have they done to my IS7? I've never sold a tier X, but I'm contemplating on selling this piece of crap.
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08-01-2012
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Finally sold it, my first tier X and the only one I have ever sold. Nerfed into oblivion and the speed buff was a poorly timed joke. Why would WG diminish a tier X to the point of being unplayable when so many have spent their hard earned credits to obtain it. All IS7 owners should demand a refund.
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