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Monkey_Slayer_ #1 Posted Jun 02 2017 - 18:23

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Classics4lyfe #2 Posted Jun 02 2017 - 18:26

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No the guy was not hacking alot of players do use autoaim alot but that guys definitely was not using an illegal mod.

24cups #3 Posted Jun 02 2017 - 18:27

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I believe auto aim + is supposed to be illegal on NA.

 

But tbh it didn't look like he used it that much. I didn't see evidence of autoaim+.



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View PostClassics4lyfe, on Jun 02 2017 - 18:26, said:

No the guy was not hacking alot of players do use autoaim alot but that guys definitely was not using an illegal mod.

 

I just posted the video...you didn't have time to watch it.

wkcw1 #5 Posted Jun 02 2017 - 18:33

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View PostNunya_000, on Jun 02 2017 - 07:33, said:

View Postafswwwe, on Jun 02 2017 - 07:32, said:

 

Yes, I predate you by at least a year and you think I have never progressed beyond tier 4.

 

Not on that account you don't

 


I saw a tutorial by claus Kellerman where you can auto lock a tank on the other side of the hill. The view was zoomed and he was able to point the aiming point on the tank.

Edited by wkcw1, Jun 02 2017 - 18:34.


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Do you know FOR SURE what date this battle took place ??

 

Snapping style "auto-aim +" was made illegal only a few weeks ago.


Edited by PREDY4, Jun 02 2017 - 18:35.


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I've had people call me out claiming I'm using some auto aim mod in replays I've posted when the simple fact is when you play a game long enough simple functions and aspects of the game become second nature where muscle memory and quick hand eye coordination can fool people into thinking someone is hacking when they really aren't.

 

Have to say its funny when people call me a cheater since I play the vanilla client.


Edited by _Gungrave_, Jun 02 2017 - 18:36.


Monkey_Slayer_ #8 Posted Jun 02 2017 - 18:39

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View PostPREDY4, on Jun 02 2017 - 18:34, said:

Do you know FOR SURE what date this battle took place ??

 

Snapping style "auto-aim +" was made illegal only a few weeks ago.

That's a good question 



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It doesn't look like he's using any mods in this replay. Whenever autoaim is triggered it's on a tank

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As long as the tank can be seen in 3rd person view and highlighted in red you can lock onto target, even if you don't have a direct 1st person LoS. 

 

Claus posted a good video showing how it's done.  It's amazing how many players do not know this.

http://forum.worldof...5#entry10963075



Monkey_Slayer_ #11 Posted Jun 02 2017 - 18:41

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View Post_Gungrave_, on Jun 02 2017 - 18:35, said:

I've had people call me out claiming I'm using some auto aim mod in replays I've posted when the simple fact is when you play a game long enough simple functions and aspects of the game become second nature where muscle memory and quick hand eye coordination can fool people into thinking someone is hacking when they really aren't.

 

Have to say its funny when people call me a cheater since I play the vanilla client.

 

gungrave, 

thank you for the respectful response. Other than locking on to the OI while behind a hill, I concede that it is possible....but, come on, every shot every time? 



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View PostPREDY4, on Jun 02 2017 - 12:34, said:

Do you know FOR SURE what date this battle took place ??

 

Snapping style "auto-aim +" was made illegal only a few weeks ago.

 

aside from that, while I didn't bother looking the player up in question, that clan doesn't appear to exist on NA.

 

wargaming has notoriously been horrible about declaring which mods are legal / illegal across their server pools.

 

I have not yet watched the video, but I frequently use vanilla autoaim on targets even if I don't actually intend to shoot them.  it keeps the turret facing the threat I have identified, and some folks won't peek as long as a gun is pointed in their direction.  I also use auto aim quite a bit in eggshell tanks when I'm laying down suppressing fire while doing my utmost to pay attention to where I'm driving...

 

 

View PostNeatoMan, on Jun 02 2017 - 12:40, said:

As long as the tank can be seen in 3rd person view and highlighted in red you can lock onto target, even if you don't have a direct 1st person LoS. 

 

Claus posted a good video showing how it's done.  It's amazing how many players do not know this.

http://forum.worldof...5#entry10963075

 

​and this.  I started doing it a long time ago after watching vetro use it presumably for the same reasons I outlined, on his stream

 



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Monkey_Slayer_ #14 Posted Jun 02 2017 - 18:46

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View PostNeatoMan, on Jun 02 2017 - 18:40, said:

As long as the tank can be seen in 3rd person view and highlighted in red you can lock onto target, even if you don't have a direct 1st person LoS. 

 

Claus posted a good video showing how it's done.  It's amazing how many players do not know this.

http://forum.worldof...5#entry10963075

 

If thats true, and no, I didn't know it, then I may be wrong.  I didn't know you could auto aim behind a hill.  If that's the case, then an apology might be due...except for the sheer number of times he did it. 

Thank you for posting the link. I'll watch it.



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View PostPREDY4, on Jun 02 2017 - 11:34, said:

Do you know FOR SURE what date this battle took place ??

 

Snapping style "auto-aim +" was made illegal only a few weeks ago.

 

It was made illegal like 3 months ago

Edited by _FaTaL, Jun 02 2017 - 18:48.


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View PostMonkey_Slayer_, on Jun 02 2017 - 12:41, said:

 

gungrave, 

thank you for the respectful response. Other than locking on to the OI while behind a hill, I concede that it is possible....but, come on, every shot every time? 

 

do we know for certain that the replay is being done from the player's perspective?

 

here's part of the problem, wargaming's own replay controls allow the user to change to 3rd person view while running the replay.  it's amazing how many people don't know this...

 

I was accused of hax for recording a replay and uploading it in my own T71 after I rammed and rolled a SPIC in this thread, because I recorded it initially in 3rd person view, which isn't how I played that entire stretch..  http://forum.worldof...__fromsearch__1  

 

if you watch the first streamable link, it looks like I don't bother aiming at the arty with my final round.  scroll down in the thread and see the screenshot, or the 2nd streamable link.


Edited by ThePigSheFlies, Jun 02 2017 - 18:53.


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Just finished watching the vid... the date of the battle is definitely after snapping-style auto-aim + was made illegal.

 

However... he did use auto-aim for several of his shots, but I watched very carefully and in ultra slow-mo on the ones that were the hardest to lock onto quickly, and I did not see any "snapping" action even once.

 

I say he is clean, either using vanilla auto-aim or the new, legal version of auto-aim+ that is currently available in legit mod packs like Aslain's and others, which has no "snapping" action associated.


Edited by PREDY4, Jun 02 2017 - 19:08.


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View PostMonkey_Slayer_, on Jun 02 2017 - 12:27, said:

 

I just posted the video...you didn't have time to watch it.

 

Really I saw it yesterday, you think you're the only one with YouTube?

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View Post_FaTaL, on Jun 02 2017 - 18:48, said:

 

It was made illegal like 3 months ago

 

So, about 10 or 12 short weeks ago, then ?

 

I just recently debunked a guy screaming "HAX !!" claiming an MT-25 was using an "instant reload" mod to do far more damage than possible in a very short time.

 

The problem was that the video he posted was from back in the day when the MT-25 still had a gun capable of such damage (which was subsequently harshly nerfed).

 

Very typical of so many hax claims.


Edited by PREDY4, Jun 02 2017 - 19:07.


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