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Dirizon #1 Posted Jul 11 2017 - 00:27

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So the lSU is having it's BL1O 15.2 removed.  Let us all cry foul.

Foul, because it is having the ridiculous gun removed and replaced by a near equally ridiculous gun that will still largely keeps gargantuan anti-armour capability,  while still retaining better velocity than say something like T49, 0H0, or Rhb Borsig. 

Foul, because there is more pressure now on the TD to aim it's shots. 

Foul, due to mobility and health increases, because those aren't important. 

 

lSU has been a wreck of a TD, that has been around like how it is way too long. Way too long. Think of tanks like T28, or AC48, or AT15  that would love one-fifty (mm) guns. And lSU has had it forever, heck SU15.2 got one stock,  and 0bj 7O4 could mount it ST0CK not having to deal with T lX TD grinds like T95  or  Tortoise or Jag Tiger. Yes, cry foul.

 

Now for the real part of the thread,  all lSU 15.2 fairly requires in order to work properly,  and by work properly l mean better than AT15 or Kanone Jag Pz,  which are the only real rancid toilet a  s s T8 TDs out there, are to make it like the SU15.2 before it. To which it is supposed to be. 

 

Choice A)  Like SU15.2,  lSU15.2 has the stock ML2O 15.2cm that upscales from Vll - Vlll. lt shoots faster, more accurate, less aim-time, better soft stats. Being an HE gun by heart, pens won't matter and aiming isn't very important,  and HEAT+AP exist for softer or unknowing targets. No real different than an 0H0, but slightly better performance. ---LlKE SU15.2---

 

Choice B)  Like SU15.2, lSU15.2 has the BL9 12.2cm, that exactly mimics the SU running the D2544 12.2cm.  Low pen for a T8 TD, modest damage,  but extreme rate of fire. Like a SU1O1  running the 1Ocm for DPM, lSU does that too trading speed and camo,  for a little more gun.  Even with BL9  R0F currently, still has more DPM than Charioteer, T28P, T28, AC48 - heck it has more DPM than Foch and T3O with 12cm in T9......

 

But no. Back to reality, AKA  ''da da,  Russian Good''  let's just cut back the AP, not even 1O%, and say it balanced. But not before giving it 1O% HP too, and more mobility.

.......How can you think about buffing T8 TDs,  and not include Kanone Jag Pz,  or AT15. or Jag Tiger 8.8.  Just mind boggling.

 

 

 



Viper69 #2 Posted Jul 11 2017 - 00:49

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Are you honestly surprised?

Extortion17 #3 Posted Jul 11 2017 - 00:50

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cuz logic



CanOfTomatoes #4 Posted Jul 11 2017 - 01:34

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Cuz the RU server boys didnt ask for it or want it so unless they whine WG doesnt give a damn. NA is such a pathetic faction of WoT even the Asian server has more IP addresses and servers than NA.

stalkervision #5 Posted Jul 11 2017 - 01:52

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I don't know why they are messing with it.

CanOfTomatoes #6 Posted Jul 11 2017 - 01:57

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View Poststalkervision, on Jul 10 2017 - 18:52, said:

I don't know why they are messing with it.

 

If you find out let us know because that may explain them working on something like this that is vastly more important than the multitude of other critical issues.

johnmadara #7 Posted Jul 11 2017 - 02:19

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they should have simply nerfed it, cause the rhm already has a 15cm with a 334mm pen heat round

joshww2legoguy #8 Posted Jul 11 2017 - 03:04

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View Postjohnmadara, on Jul 10 2017 - 20:19, said:

they should have simply nerfed it, cause the rhm already has a 15cm with a 334mm pen heat round

 

Ikr... Classic WG Logic. I'm actually surprised since its a Russian Tank. Then again nothing surprises at all anyways in anything these days.

 



Dirizon #9 Posted Jul 11 2017 - 05:48

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View Postjohnmadara, on Jul 10 2017 - 20:49, said:

they should have simply nerfed it, cause the rhm already has a 15cm with a 334mm pen heat round

 

Rhm Bor has the large flaw, in that it is slow and minimally armoured.  0ther than the advantage of the turret, and camo, these are things borsig uses to deploy it's very powerful firepower.

 

Now, although lSU much of an 'armoured' tank,  it is not a soft target either. lt isn't penetrated by artillery, messed up by nearby cratering splashes, or penetrated by low velocity howitzers like T3485 or M4E2  HE howitzers. lt is very likely that .oi. and KV2 style HE guns won't either.  Further more,  like most Russian tanks,  lSU has decent side armour stretching to 9Omm at least half the vehicle profile which also covered by tracks, that can thwart some of the lower Pen T6-7 AP guns...... it has this large a  s s gun case that magnetically eats shots,  and an autobounce glacis ramp part of the front hull that bounces just about anything because of angle and 6Omm thick - needing 18cm+ for overmatch or high HEAT pen. 

 

For too lazy didn't read? lSU is a glass cannon, yes, but it isn't a cardboard box of a tank. lt has 'some' armour. lSU is also well rounded in speed, camo,.....things like that AT15, T28 do not have. lSU never deserved the BL1O, and it wouldn't be horrible without it. And with this in mind,  it also makes the 0bj 7O4 a much fairer, better T9 grind more alike other T9 TDs, instead of an 0P wagon slapping on the BL1O right after buying it. 

 

  



Kekistani #10 Posted Jul 11 2017 - 11:03

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I know it has nothing to do with the thread but I'm curious about the reasoning behind the use of O instead of 0 and vice versa as well as putting a decimal mark where it isn't needed.

Viper69 #11 Posted Jul 11 2017 - 17:18

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View PostKekistani, on Jul 11 2017 - 05:03, said:

I know it has nothing to do with the thread but I'm curious about the reasoning behind the use of O instead of 0 and vice versa as well as putting a decimal mark where it isn't needed.

 

same reason you have an avatar that looks like barf from space balls. It's his shtick.

Kekistani #12 Posted Jul 11 2017 - 17:59

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View PostViper69, on Jul 11 2017 - 13:18, said:

 

same reason you have an avatar that looks like barf from space balls. It's his shtick.

 

There's little correlation between the two.

 

You use an image you appreciate on your avatar, or even a picture of yours – which is rare in these forums. In the other hand, grammar is supposed to have a standard structure even though most people tend to have some little deviations from the norm. But I've never seen anyone do what he does, which is why it got me genuinely curious about it.

 

You don't need to defend him/her because I'm not attacking in the first place. And the image I have as an avatar is the character Roxy Richter from Scott Pilgrim vs. the World which is based on the series of graphic stories, it's a shame you don't appreciate it even though you have a GIF of a pancake tiger drawing being cringy.


Edited by Kekistani, Jul 11 2017 - 18:02.


Viper69 #13 Posted Jul 12 2017 - 23:09

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View PostKekistani, on Jul 11 2017 - 11:59, said:

 

There's little correlation between the two.

 

You use an image you appreciate on your avatar, or even a picture of yours – which is rare in these forums. In the other hand, grammar is supposed to have a standard structure even though most people tend to have some little deviations from the norm. But I've never seen anyone do what he does, which is why it got me genuinely curious about it.

 

You don't need to defend him/her because I'm not attacking in the first place. And the image I have as an avatar is the character Roxy Richter from Scott Pilgrim vs. the World which is based on the series of graphic stories, it's a shame you don't appreciate it even though you have a GIF of a pancake tiger drawing being cringy.

 

I do appologize I was a bit dumb the other night and didn't intend an insult. It does make one wonder why he does it. You have to admit though at a quick glance your avatar doesn't look like barf from space balls ;). But please accept my sincere apology.




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