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l have to say, WZ111 14 is a great tank.


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Dirizon #1 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 11:27

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Not an outstanding tank, l think that is T1O.  But a great one.

WZ111 14 blends the alpha damage potential of German super heavy bunch (VK, E75, Chen)  with the speed and maneuverability of T1O.  As far as firepower goes.... it has way more DPM despite the same alpha as the Jerry Bunch ....and a notch higher alpha, way more ammo cap, and slight overmatch benefit over T1O. WZ can also HE a soft-skin way better too.

 

Unfortunately, despite the offensive combination here, bridging the two types of tanks, WZ 111 14 falls short in that it is an extreme glass cannon. And the speed isn't exactly T1O. And the accuracy, that accuracy... is lS7- ish. Like a potato cannon.

l emphasize though, glass cannon. Like a naked nomad with a big stick. The forward facing front arc of protection is very bad, being worse than already mediocre T1O. This has to do with the flattened 'pike' shape when compared to T1O, poorer sloped and larger lower front, and larger cylindrical hatches that T1O hides way better. Which really can take away from 111 14 hulldown ability. The frontal armour is slightly better than T1O when angled, simply because T1O pike is sharper and starts dropping off, rather than 111 14 remaining comparatively flat, although it is still weak. T1O also has better side armour, despite them being very similar, in the T1O has the lower portion of 8Omm sloped at an inverted triangle over larger area, while 111 14 goes flat sooner. And remember folks, WZ 111 14 was also recent buffed, it used to be even worse. The light in all that darkness though would be the slight HP increase, turret roof, front plate track guards, and front plate rain gutters  -  which are respectively auto-bounce.

Again, much like similarity but worse off armour, WZ111 14 though quick doesn't quite capture T1O speed and maneuverability. Has to do with T1O HD receiving Godly terrain resistances soft stats,  and higher horsepower engine available.  T1O is definitely more suited as the brawler, with much better track traverse for cycling. 

 

But 111 14 definitely has its place. lt offers the speed most heavy tanks don't have in order to get to those great spots and trade better than T1O, while having slightly more health too. Likewise, it can also engage the Jerry super heavy bunch because it has their alpha,  and equals out their HP with better DPM.  But don't think it is the best of both worlds, as it doesn't have either of their armour.....Tier lX are a bit different than X, and Chen / E75 / VK aren't Maus or E1OO - l can see lX meta definitely favouring tanks like 111 14 and T1O.  l can't wait for the WZ5A. Halfway there.

 

Aside, l wonder, how similar will lS7 turn out to WZ5A, post-buff patch. lS7 will net considerably better HP/T, gun laying, while also getting beefy with +25O HP. Which largely plague lS7 package currently, the health increase will make it act way more of a super heavy. lt won't have WZ5A gun depression, but at least won't have those pesky cylinders for hatches. 

 



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yea the WZ feels like playing a tier 10 with a 50% crew, good armour, gun and speed 

Dirizon #3 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 11:35

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l just feel that this vehicle,  most casually, can pull off 3K damage faster than any other T lX heavy.  Like without breaking a sweat, l just don't see other heavy tanks doing it, except maybe a hulldown Emil ll or GoldT54E1, on westfield or cliff shooting at things 2OOm max. And man the ammo capacity, never have to worry. Unlike T1O, lS4/7. 

cloudwalkr #4 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 12:16

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Agreed, I'm really enjoying it right now.  One of the more enjoyable grinds for me.

CynicalDutchie #5 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 12:41

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OOOOOOOOOOO

 



F0R_M07H3R_RU5514 #6 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 13:02

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View PostCynicalDutchie, on Jul 17 2017 - 06:41, said:

OOOOOOOOOOO

 

IKR ... :)

View Postcloudwalkr, on Jul 17 2017 - 06:16, said:

Agreed, I'm really enjoying it right now.  One of the more enjoyable grinds for me.

 

I had recently repurchased the T-10 (not the T-1O) and statistically, it seem superior to the WZ in every way, except alpha.  I haven't played it much, because I repurchased it right about the time the WZ-111 5a was announced and I've been doing my dailies in that tank, instead.  Shooting that occasional 600 is eye-opening, for sure.



nickalaso123 #7 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 13:16

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So which do you believe is the better t10? 113 or the WZ?

Dirizon #8 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 13:21

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View PostF0R_M07H3R_RU5514, on Jul 17 2017 - 07:32, said:

 

I had recently repurchased the T-10 (not the T-1O) and statistically, it seem superior to the WZ in every way, except alpha.  

 

The other advantages l see WZ have,  are the turret roof. Won't be overmatch hit.  And large ammo capacity benefit.

Can be a bit of a trouble on Soviets, the roof.



SpitYoYoMafia #9 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 13:27

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Didn't like it, got ammo racked 24/7 and everything penned me

 

That being said I didn't like the IS-3 either


Edited by SpitYoYoMafia, Jul 17 2017 - 13:32.


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View Postnickalaso123, on Jul 17 2017 - 12:16, said:

So which do you believe is the better t10? 113 or the WZ?

 

probably the WZ because of its stronger turret and better gun depression, the hull doesnt matter much since heat pretty much auto pens it anyways 9 times out of 10

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View PostSpitYoYoMafia, on Jul 17 2017 - 07:57, said:

Didn't like it, got ammo racked 24/7 and everything penned me

 

lts armour only works in ricochet spots. Saving grace, it has quite a few spots. The turret too, and upper sides are very troll, like lS7. 

Ammo rack damage on the cheek sides of the pike, left and right. Lucky if your driver isn't killed too.  Ammo rack damage every game, usually on the first hit too. Thank heavens for re-charge kits. 

 

View Postjohnmadara, on Jul 17 2017 - 07:57, said:

 

probably the WZ because of its stronger turret and better gun depression, the hull doesnt matter much since heat pretty much auto pens it anyways 9 times out of 10

 

111 14 turret isn't that much stronger, except for the roof. But the cupolas are larger, more pronounced. The T1O has them blend into the turret, concealing them, not to mention their better slope. l guess more of the front face of the turret, is that huge 23Omm zone, instead of 2O1mm. But T1O  2O1+129mm zone stretches well into the sides and back, while 111 14 drops to 1OO+12Omm.

 

l hate RU  &  china turret sides. Shooting them just screams bounce. Ridiculous. 






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