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Treacherous_Neighbour #1 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 19:16

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After enduring so much internet bullying yesterday I decided it was tiime to post some good news.

 

The rate of playerbase crash has slowed a full percent.

 

This year WG has managed to limit its loss in players to 16%, a full one percent better than last years 17%.

 

I attribute this improvement to improved arty mechanics, no new complicated maps and the obsoletion of tier 8 premiums with preferred MM

 

With the current heavy buffs, and the imminent medium nerfs, I predict, at this rate, WG will only lose 15% next year.

 

In around 10 years the games attrition , at current rates and with current development improvement, will completely stabalize,  settling on 43000 players, this is good news because it is all the NA servers can actually handle without losing a quarter of the packets sent.



Nudnick #2 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 19:28

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What goes up must come down.

Devildog8 #3 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 19:33

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its a norm, there is nothing wrong with the player base except a lot are getting burned out, happens to every MMO out there, some leave due to patches and others just make excuses not to play anymore, same ole, same ole, nothing new here, as long as WG actually tries to improve the game ppl will play and new ppl will come, if were looking at numbers from 4-5 years ago and expecting it to be like that again, well your kinda fooling yourself.

Taupmatism #4 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 19:33

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You don't include people like me that can't log because I use a Mac.

Gunadie #5 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 19:43

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View PostDevildog8, on Jul 17 2017 - 10:33, said:

its a norm, there is nothing wrong with the player base except a lot are getting burned out, happens to every MMO out there, some leave due to patches and others just make excuses not to play anymore, same ole, same ole, nothing new here, as long as WG actually tries to improve the game ppl will play and new ppl will come, if were looking at numbers from 4-5 years ago and expecting it to be like that again, well your kinda fooling yourself.

 

You may called it "burn out"

Others would call it "being feed up"



AlienGold #6 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 20:48

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The graph probably looks barely sloping full scale (the graph's bottom is 150,000).

Adam_Antium #7 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 20:59

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May I ask for the source?

Treacherous_Neighbour #8 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 21:23

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View PostAlienGold, on Jul 17 2017 - 20:48, said:

The graph probably looks barely sloping full scale (the graph's bottom is 150,000).

 

lol 16% is 16% slope it however you like.

 

View PostAdam_Antium, on Jul 17 2017 - 20:59, said:

May I ask for the source?

 

http://wot-news.com/...rver/us/norm/en



HMB_Atlas #9 Posted Jul 18 2017 - 02:40

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All they need to do is simply remove artillery from the game... Boom - the population will resurge. 

badmonkey59 #10 Posted Jul 18 2017 - 03:47

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View PostDevildog8, on Jul 17 2017 - 12:33, said:

its a norm, there is nothing wrong with the player base except a lot are getting burned out, happens to every MMO out there, some leave due to patches and others just make excuses not to play anymore, same ole, same ole, nothing new here, as long as WG actually tries to improve the game ppl will play and new ppl will come, if were looking at numbers from 4-5 years ago and expecting it to be like that again, well your kinda fooling yourself.

 

I didn't get burned out. I just got sick of crappy MM, crappy customer service, constant money grabs, crappy new Clan Wars, and the same old crappy maps. WG has turned a great game into one big crap.

eisen1973 #11 Posted Jul 18 2017 - 04:49

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The game has improved to the point I have been playing vanilla for several updates now. 

sranjebarn_Specialist #12 Posted Jul 18 2017 - 04:54

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View PostHMB_Atlas, on Jul 18 2017 - 02:40, said:

All they need to do is simply remove artillery from the game... Boom - the population will resurge. 

 

Lol yes, that's the main reason people have left. Not the lag, not the unplayable East Server for many, not the retarded prems they keep release.

 

Moron.

 

Funny thing about you anti-arty [edited]and a little tip for ya....NA server numbers took a sh** when they put out 9.18 and made it so arty couldn't platoon ;) so I wouldn't say removing arty is the answer. Then again, Wargaming knows that (the little that they DO know) which is why they've ignored your 3 year old whines.


Edited by sranjebarn_Specialist, Jul 18 2017 - 04:55.


RECON_RANGER #13 Posted Jul 18 2017 - 05:16

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I quit for 8 mths, came back and its the same maps, same prem rounds,worse teams but even worse MM.  MM is just completely broken.  How can u cont to play a game that has 20 maps?   It is so boring getting the same maps over and over.  

This game is dead.  It will be around for 5-6 more yrs, but it died 2 yrs ago.  WG knows this and are releasing more and more OP prems, way better than tech tree tanks, to milk it 4 all its worth.

I will still play tiers 2 and 3, but thats it.  Tiers 4-10 are Cancer.



eisen1973 #14 Posted Jul 18 2017 - 05:20

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View PostRECON_RANGER, on Jul 17 2017 - 23:16, said:

I quit for 8 mths, came back and its the same maps, same prem rounds,worse teams but even worse MM. MM is just completely broken. How can u cont to play a game that has 20 maps? It is so boring getting the same maps over and over.

This game is dead. It will be around for 5-6 more yrs, but it died 2 yrs ago. WG knows this and are releasing more and more OP prems, way better than tech tree tanks, to milk it 4 all its worth.

I will still play tiers 2 and 3, but thats it. Tiers 4-10 are Cancer.
 

 

Do you play Chess? It has had the same board for more than thousand years, yet no chess players claim it's boring. Can you imagine wot without new tanks every update and a single map? So yes, you came back after 8 months and the same game you left is here. It's the concept of wot you don't like. 

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View Posteisen1973, on Jul 17 2017 - 23:20, said:

 

Do you play Chess? It has had the same board for more than thousand years, yet no chess players claim it's boring. Can you imagine wot without new tanks every update and a single map? So yes, you came back after 8 months and the same game you left is here. It's the concept of wot you don't like. 

 

Chess is a bit different.  I don't lose at chess b/c the move I intended was lost before it got to the board.  I don't lose at chess b/c the knight I moved legally to take the queen 'magically' missed, regardless if I play smart or 'aim' my shots.  I don't lose at chess b/c the player on the opposite side bought a 'premium' pawn that can move like a queen.  I don't lose at chess because a game I enjoyed decided to 'nerf' the right rook, who can now only move L-R by 3 spaces, not forward and back/left right on open lanes.

 

You're argument failed because of faulty comparison and not adhering to Liskov substitution principle.  Thanks for playing...we have some nice parting gifts for you....



RedBaronK #16 Posted Jul 18 2017 - 07:09

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View Postsranjebarn_Specialist, on Jul 18 2017 - 03:54, said:

 

Lol yes, that's the main reason people have left. Not the lag, not the unplayable East Server for many, not the retarded prems they keep release.

 

Moron.

 

Funny thing about you anti-arty [edited]and a little tip for ya....NA server numbers took a sh** when they put out 9.18 and made it so arty couldn't platoon ;) so I wouldn't say removing arty is the answer. Then again, Wargaming knows that (the little that they DO know) which is why they've ignored your 3 year old whines.

 

Reroll rant, best rant :girl:

Arashikumo #17 Posted Jul 18 2017 - 11:27

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Best improvements imo are:

- continuous work on the HD models, map graphics and game engine.

- integration of several gameplay mods into vanilla client (like the circle range on minimap, damage log, flag captureno. of tank and lots more).

- they finally taught basics to newbs with a much better Bootcamp series of missions.

- the modding changes made installing mods significantly simpler (just a single .wotmod file for many mods)

 

Biggest regression imo :

- they've tightened down on game credits earnings (which impacts non-premium user the most)  to a hair sliver and increased their costs - i.e. removed missions offering credits and removed deep 30/50% discount for higher tier tanks.

- flooding Tier8 with premium tanks which are better than its standard peers.

- overcomplicate tank missions with tankrewards.com. A confusing site, ridiculous to keep track of, needs a login. Really, do you need a separate site?

 



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View PostHMB_Atlas, on Jul 18 2017 - 02:40, said:

All they need to do is simply remove artillery from the game... Boom - the population will resurge. 

 

Remove 1% XP / sec to any tanks that stay in same square for longer than 30 seconds when no other enemy is in the square.  

 

Campers have always been a bigger scourge.



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View PostColonelShakes, on Jul 18 2017 - 06:01, said:

 

Remove 1% XP / sec to any tanks that stay in same square for longer than 30 seconds when no other enemy is in the square.  

 

Campers have always been a bigger scourge.

 

Yeah, because punishing Light Tanks that are Passive Scouting 300 meters forward of the rest of the team will make the game better. :sceptic:

HMB_Atlas #20 Posted Jul 18 2017 - 14:46

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View Postsranjebarn_Specialist, on Jul 17 2017 - 21:54, said:

 

Lol yes, that's the main reason people have left. Not the lag, not the unplayable East Server for many, not the retarded prems they keep release.

 

Moron.

 

Funny thing about you anti-arty [edited]and a little tip for ya....NA server numbers took a sh** when they put out 9.18 and made it so arty couldn't platoon ;) so I wouldn't say removing arty is the answer. Then again, Wargaming knows that (the little that they DO know) which is why they've ignored your 3 year old whines.

 

Typical arty lover. Dude arty is the most unbalanced part of this game. Risk vs. Reward... Arty has no risk involved in participating in battle. Only when the battle is over and everyone goes on arty hunt is it "risky" lol. Or omg everyone but arty dies on both sides... It's like watching a few toddlers fling poo at each other... 

 

Oh and your "NA population tanked after 9.18" is such trash. Go look on vbaddict dude... Immediately after the release of 9.18 the population spiked drastically, then went back down once they realized arty is still complete trash and utterly toxic to gameplay... 

 

Go preach your non-sense elsewhere. 






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