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otacon237 #1 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 21:23

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Anyone remember that article that came out a few months back where victor kislyi basically admitted that they put themselves in a corner where the game was on life support....and the sales of premium tanks were that life support? And which tier contains the best and most profitable premiums? why, tier 8 of course! And which tier is now the biggest most stagnant cesspool of horribad constant bottom tier mm and unbalanced tanks? WHY YES JIMMY, IT'S THE SAME TIER!!:facepalm: you can almost see why the newest prems are so OP and being compared to tier 9s by their critics, THEY'RE MEANT TO COMPETE WITH 9s and 10s!! Duh! How did that not dawn on me before. So now that WOT 's profitability is likely shot in the foot, how do yall think they will respond? How do you think they SHOULD respond? A few options I see potentially occurring: Increasingly op premiums. Rollback 3-5-7. Bring back pref mm and make all tier 8 prems pref (they could do this since it would only be a buff and not a Nerf), but risky for future development. Tier 9 and 10 prems. Continue in blissful ignorance. I'd like to generate some intelligent discussion on this. WG devs might wanna tune in, you might actually learn something. Sorry for nonexistent paragraphs structure, my phone wont let me put in tabs for some reason

Derp_o7 #2 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 21:26

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What argument are you trying to make?

 

Your point is hidden beneath sentences of salt.



otacon237 #3 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 21:29

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There's no argument, I'm trying to stimulate discussion. Guess you didn't read the whole post.

Devildog8 #4 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 21:30

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its very salty on these forums today

YANKEE137 #5 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 21:32

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I think that Wargaming never planned on this game still being viable at this age. They started other games, which didn't do so well and all the while WoT was bankrolling the failures.  I think that the reason they have given priority to new HD maps  is that they need to keep new players and while we may be fine with status quo, people expect a modern game not one that looks ten years out of date.

I think gold ammo is a big money maker for them, that's why we have 3-5-7 : it kinda guarantees 12 tanks are shooting gold every game.



LesterQuaestor #6 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 21:33

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 How do you think they SHOULD respond?

 

  Roll back to when I started. Don't know which version it was, but WoT was very good then. There was a mix of player skill at all tiers. There were a considerable number of additional maps, and the rotation at low tiers was not stagnant.

 



Nudnick #7 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 21:34

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The old tier 8's are obsolete so we'll buy new ones. I don't see them changing that anytime soon. That's how companies stay in business.

Nunya_000 #8 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 21:43

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View PostDerp_o7, on Jul 17 2017 - 12:26, said:

What argument are you trying to make?

 

Your point is hidden beneath sentences of salt.

 

I believe his point is to take a bunch of things said by VK out of context....applying his own interpretations to the meaning of the words....and then creating a stawman argument for discussion.

TsarCidron #9 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 21:44

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View PostLesterQuaestor, on Jul 17 2017 - 12:33, said:

 

  Roll back to when I started. Don't know which version it was, but WoT was very good then. There was a mix of player skill at all tiers. There were a considerable number of additional maps, and the rotation at low tiers was not stagnant.

 

 

Umm, no.   Dont roll back to previous versions.   Yes, we remember some of them fondly, but they had major issues too.  We, as humans tend to remember the past fondly and forget the bad.  Remember how many patches had lag issues?  had horribad matchmaking?  didnt have physics? couldnt even enter the game (not the match, but the game! ) ? had worse imbalance of tanks?  Yeah.  Lets NOT rollback to previous versions.

johnmadara #10 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 21:48

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pref mm is horrible for mm... should have been removed and rebalanced the tanks to fight tier 10s

otacon237 #11 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 21:53

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Sorry, I should have added the following disclaimer: Ignorance is not bliss and apologists need not apply. But I guess that's a "stawman" argument too

View PostNunya_000, on Jul 17 2017 - 20:43, said:

 

I believe his point is to take a bunch of things said by VK out of context....applying his own interpretations to the meaning of the words....and then creating a stawman argument for discussion.

 



otacon237 #12 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 21:59

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We should rollback SOME aspects for sure. The sigma accuracy was then I enjoyed the game the most. And bring back all the old maps. I don't care if they're "unbalanced" (I.e. Not meticulously tweaked for shortest game time, least brain usage and maximum gold spam)

View PostTsarCidron, on Jul 17 2017 - 20:44, said:

 

Umm, no.   Dont roll back to previous versions.   Yes, we remember some of them fondly, but they had major issues too.  We, as humans tend to remember the past fondly and forget the bad.  Remember how many patches had lag issues?  had horribad matchmaking?  didnt have physics? couldnt even enter the game (not the match, but the game! ) ? had worse imbalance of tanks?  Yeah.  Lets NOT rollback to previous versions.

 



Benjeeh_CA #13 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 22:03

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Personally  I love the 3-5-7 MM even bottom tier it's still enjoyable. As I've never been one to shot gold shells either I use as few as I can.

The lag gets me Im used to 30 ping on west since the patch I've been up to 80 that's not terrible it's the turret that slingshots backwards what gets me

 



_Schneller_Heinz_ #14 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 22:03

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That's a lot of salt.....Smile_blinky.gif



otacon237 #15 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 22:05

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True, but that wouldn't aolve the problem of constant bottom tiers in tier 8. In fact those pref tanks are my refuge now. They suck against the new OP prems but at least you never see tier 10.

View Postjohnmadara, on Jul 17 2017 - 20:48, said:

pref mm is horrible for mm... should have been removed and rebalanced the tanks to fight tier 10s

 



bockscar43 #16 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 22:05

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WG. time to adopt a new business model, your concepts of the pixel game world is like a Timex  watch in a digital world. Perhaps it's time to drain your marshes and hired new ideas for old type of hardware {tanks no longer used in warfare} or possibly wots modern era. If nothing else fix all existing issues and quite the base before wots introduces more glitter. We all want the same thing a great game experience.....just sayn.

joshww2legoguy #17 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 22:13

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Tldr

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View Postotacon237, on Jul 17 2017 - 20:23, said:

Anyone remember that article that came out a few months back where victor kislyi basically admitted that they put themselves in a corner where the game was on life support....and the sales of premium tanks were that life support? And which tier contains the best and most profitable premiums? why, tier 8 of course! And which tier is now the biggest most stagnant cesspool of horribad constant bottom tier mm and unbalanced tanks? WHY YES JIMMY, IT'S THE SAME TIER!!:facepalm: you can almost see why the newest prems are so OP and being compared to tier 9s by their critics, THEY'RE MEANT TO COMPETE WITH 9s and 10s!! Duh! How did that not dawn on me before. So now that WOT 's profitability is likely shot in the foot, how do yall think they will respond? How do you think they SHOULD respond? A few options I see potentially occurring: Increasingly op premiums. Rollback 3-5-7. Bring back pref mm and make all tier 8 prems pref (they could do this since it would only be a buff and not a Nerf), but risky for future development. Tier 9 and 10 prems. Continue in blissful ignorance. I'd like to generate some intelligent discussion on this. WG devs might wanna tune in, you might actually learn something. Sorry for nonexistent paragraphs structure, my phone wont let me put in tabs for some reason

 

Maybe you should write WG a letter telling them just how angry you are - writing one here will do nothing as you can see above ^ 8P

otacon237 #19 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 22:29

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View PostAello, on Jul 17 2017 - 21:26, said:

 

Maybe you should write WG a letter telling them just how angry you are - writing one here will do nothing as you can see above ^ 8P

 

I can see a bunch of people that can't read and or missed the point. Was that what you were trying to point out?

_PoliticallyIncorrect #20 Posted Jul 17 2017 - 22:30

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View Postjohnmadara, on Jul 17 2017 - 15:48, said:

pref mm is horrible for mm... should have been removed and rebalanced the tanks to fight tier 10s

 

Using this logic 6's should be balanced to fight 8's.....




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