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black43bear #1 Posted Aug 07 2017 - 21:03

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If therer are any other KV5 owners that feel as i do that  the KV 5 needs another gunn that actuallt works for its tier please help me suggest it to wargaming. This tier 7 gun is horriable. I cant seem to pen anything unless i am lucky. I bounce off the rear of a canavoran and off the side of a T 32 fully aimed in . I think it isnt fair for a tier 8 to have only a tioer 7 gun going against tier 8s and 9s. Any tips or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. thank you for taking your time to read this

Duqe #2 Posted Aug 07 2017 - 21:08

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The KV-5 is the epitome of a brawling heavy tank. It's tall, it's meaty, and its lack of penetration is compensated for by the fact that you can shoot down in almost any vehicle's roof, barring Japanese heavies, while rubbing up against them. It also has decent DPM even to this day, meaning it can swap most heavies of its tier (minus the Japanese ones) for their hitpoints and come out on top.

Nudnick #3 Posted Aug 07 2017 - 21:10

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The old tier 8 premiums are dog meat now. They want us to buy new ones.

Al_Scarface_Capone_ #4 Posted Aug 07 2017 - 21:12

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I heard the KV-5 is getting buffed?

Super test :hiding:



RunninKurt #5 Posted Aug 07 2017 - 21:12

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View PostNudnick, on Aug 07 2017 - 14:10, said:

The old tier 8 premiums are dog meat now. They want us to buy new ones.

 

Not to mention the KV-5 was always cheap. 
I think it was $38, and the Lowe was $53ish?

motoracedave #6 Posted Aug 07 2017 - 21:18

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Give it the Super P's penn and its good to go.

stalkervision #7 Posted Aug 07 2017 - 21:25

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View PostNudnick, on Aug 07 2017 - 15:10, said:

The old tier 8 premiums are dog meat now. They want us to buy new ones.

 

​absolutely true. 

YANKEE137 #8 Posted Aug 07 2017 - 21:57

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Buy glorious new Russian premiums and forget the past comrade!

Cutthroatlemur #9 Posted Aug 07 2017 - 22:04

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View PostNudnick, on Aug 07 2017 - 12:10, said:

The old tier 8 premiums are dog meat now. They want us to buy new ones.

 

this.  My poor old KV5 and Type 59...they need love too!  Please buff these tanks (Pen for KV5, gun handling for Type) they buffed the Lowe and made it strong again...it can happen!

Lord_Hiney #10 Posted Aug 07 2017 - 22:20

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It's pref, so they're limited in how much they can buff it. That being said, it has suffered heavily from power creep in both pen and armor in the tiers it sees. It could do with a small pen buff, and maybe a medium RO cupola buff as well. It still has DPM, and the height advantage to fire down on most tanks.

Hurk #11 Posted Aug 07 2017 - 22:21

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KV-5, as it has always, overperforms for most people that play it. it needs nothing. 

the gun is fine. it has limited matching for a reason. 



Bubba187 #12 Posted Aug 07 2017 - 22:28

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I too wish this would get a pen buff.  I don't care about the alph, as much as I cant stand sitting there bouncing off stuff.  While we're at it, throw some pen love to the IS-6 and the WZ 111.  K thanks.

 

I'm happy I only play my Tier 8 prems for credit grinding.  I would be seriously peeved I bought them to play for fun.  The old guard is just that.  Old.  Sure, you can still have some very awesome games, but they are becoming fewer and far between.  Hey, even the Maus got some love.  Even if only for 6 months or so.  It's time to give some glory back to the old guys.



SpitYoYoMafia #13 Posted Aug 07 2017 - 22:33

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Just press 2, problem solved 

Gothraul #14 Posted Aug 07 2017 - 22:34

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As a KV5 owner with one on my other account I agree with swapping out the gun as WG won't have to consider replacing that same gun on lower tier regular tanks like the T150 and KV3. As for limited MM WG has already made statements recently that premiums that do have limited MM will not be losing that feature but it sadly limits how much balance wise they can get buffs wise. I would prefer the KV5 to have a good gun in exchange for leaving how the armor currently is with the cancerous R2 D2, the good 107 from the KV4 would be lovely.

vinnybagadonuts #15 Posted Aug 07 2017 - 23:51

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sure its pref...but it suffers from sub par pen...sub par alpha...and gigantic frontal weakspots.

 

i could perhaps live with 2 of the 3...but with all 3 its simply not fun to play anymore.


Edited by vinnybagadonuts, Aug 07 2017 - 23:51.


NK_33 #16 Posted Aug 08 2017 - 13:35

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All the buff it needs is to make APCR the standard, and HEAT the premium.



Kliphie #17 Posted Aug 08 2017 - 13:45

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What it really needs is a GoFundMe or something for the widows and children of all the radio men no longer with us.  

mp31b30q9 #18 Posted Aug 08 2017 - 13:48

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View PostNudnick, on Aug 07 2017 - 15:10, said:

The old tier 8 premiums are dog meat now. They want us to buy new ones.

 

^

Correct answer, there is no financial incentive for WG to "fix" or "balance" older premium tanks.........none.

 

 



_OdellBeckhamJr_ #19 Posted Aug 10 2017 - 18:23

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could add a second gun option? possibly an HE only 152mm like Japanese line (only not as Broken) and add maybe 15 pen to regular AP on 107mm?

BillT #20 Posted Aug 10 2017 - 19:29

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View Post_OdellBeckhamJr_, on Aug 10 2017 - 12:23, said:

could add a second gun option? possibly an HE only 152mm like Japanese line (only not as Broken) and add maybe 15 pen to regular AP on 107mm?

 

That's an interesting idea.  The turret, after all, is as big as a KV-2's.  So if they allowed you to mount the KV-2's 152mm, how many players would choose that over the 107?


And I think that's easily answered, because the KV-2 can carry a nearly-identical 107mm Tier 7 gun; just with slightly poorer rate of fire and gun handling.  And almost nobody does it.  So I think almost everyone would choose the 152 in the KV-5, too.  

 

I think the lesson here is that derp guns are too heavily favored in WOT; in particular, they're too effective against well-armored tanks. 






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