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B00BLEMAX #1 Posted Aug 10 2017 - 00:24

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9.20 if full of changes which make no sense! It seems that WG only has an interest in power creeping the game by buffing everything. They don't understand how to make compromises and nerfs. Here are my opinions on the changes in 9.20 and why the WG balance department is garbage. 

 

9.20 Changes list

 

9.20: Vehicles which are getting over-buffed... 

 

9.20: Changes which make NO SENSE, no one asked for this...

 

Tanks which really need buffs.

 

Tanks which really need nerfs. 

 



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The Leopard 1 is in absolute, dire need of buffs.  Superior tank made into garbage because devs upset of test grounds footage of it outclassing all RU armor on YT.

tod914 #3 Posted Aug 10 2017 - 00:55

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They need to reduce the damage on gold rounds. Penn I'm fine with.   Everyone is spamming them to compensate for the armor buffs.. 

Magikarp_ #4 Posted Aug 10 2017 - 01:05

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Moderated by Volier_Zcit


Edited by Volier_Zcit, Aug 10 2017 - 06:04.


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View PostB00BLEMAX, on Aug 09 2017 - 15:24, said:

9.20 if full of changes which make no sense! It seems that WG only has an interest in power creeping the game by buffing everything. They don't understand how to make compromises and nerfs. Here are my opinions on the changes in 9.20 and why the WG balance department is garbage. 

 

9.20 Changes list

 

9.20: Vehicles which are getting over-buffed... 

 

9.20: Changes which make NO SENSE, no one asked for this...

 

Tanks which really need buffs.

 

Tanks which really need nerfs. 

 

 

HA Ha Ha....sense and wot...lol

CedricMacLaren #6 Posted Aug 10 2017 - 01:42

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View PostMagikarp_, on Aug 09 2017 - 18:05, said:

Moderated by Volier_Zcit

 

What?  The >92K battles in the sig compared to the just over 14K under his avatar wasn't enough of a clue?


Edited by Volier_Zcit, Aug 10 2017 - 06:05.


Avalon304 #7 Posted Aug 10 2017 - 01:43

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I agree with the vehicles you think are over buffed, witht he exception of the IS-7... its really not that big of a buff, and it is needed, especially with the 5A existing as it does.

 

The AMX changes could easily go either way.

 

The ISU changes were needed, like it or not.

 

The 140 change is dumb.

 

There are other tanks in need of buffs. Some have been proposed (and theyre the wrong buffs to give those tanks) and other tanks havent been looked at yet. It will come.

 

And as much as they should be, premiums will never be nerfed... so... no use in crying about that.

 



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"AMX 30/B: Why are you completely changing the play style of this vehicle besides to piss everyone off who worked for it??? There are no excuses! This tank plays too similarly to the Leopard??? OK, so lets make it play exactly like the STB-1. No logic behind this change. WHY!?!"

I'm pretty sure the 7 people in NA who play this tank don't care.  Doing anything to it seems like an improvement.



Smooky_Le_chien_husky #9 Posted Aug 10 2017 - 03:18

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The game are all ready worst lose lot credit and lose all player are good cause we lose many of match with no win . if you want win you need buy premium account and using many of apcr

ChokingVictim #10 Posted Aug 10 2017 - 04:09

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View PostSmooky_Le_chien_husky, on Aug 10 2017 - 02:18, said:

The game are all ready worst lose lot credit and lose all player are good cause we lose many of match with no win . if you want win you need buy premium account and using many of apcr

 

Exactly what everyone was thinking, we just needed someone to vocalize our thoughts and you sir did just that in such an elegant manner - bravo sir bravo.



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View PostB00BLEMAX, on Aug 10 2017 - 00:24, said:

9.20 if full of changes which make no sense! It seems that WG only has an interest in power creeping the game by buffing everything. They don't understand how to make compromises and nerfs. Here are my opinions on the changes in 9.20 and why the WG balance department is garbage. 

 

9.20 Changes list

 

9.20: Vehicles which are getting over-buffed... 

 

9.20: Changes which make NO SENSE, no one asked for this...

 

Tanks which really need buffs.

 

Tanks which really need nerfs. 

 

 

Is-7 needs any buff it can get.

Types need weaker weak spots, lol 240 and 260 "weak spots" wish my is-7 had them "weak spots" also good luck penning one in a t8 and even some tier 9s, even with gold (just not the t-54 lol)



LpBronco #12 Posted Aug 21 2017 - 23:23

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Biggest change I see is that the pen damage from HE should have been slashed for all guns when they cut it by half for the SPG's. As many changes as Wargaming has initiated, this has become a different game and the tank "carousel" of flavor of the month vehicles is not in the games interest no matter how much the IS-7 needs to return to the flagship of Russian hardware.

Firetec604 #13 Posted Aug 22 2017 - 04:54

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Seriously, the IS-7? It has the worst tier X heavy tank gun in the game, and the slight buff to the aim time does nothing to address the fact that it is a tier IX gun, on a tier X heavy tank.

I do agree with most of the tanks that need buffs. Some of them seem downright forgotten among the buffs to other vehicles.

 

 


Edited by Firetec604, Aug 22 2017 - 04:57.


84Doc04 #14 Posted Aug 24 2017 - 16:39

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View PostB00BLEMAX, on Aug 09 2017 - 18:24, said:

9.20 if full of changes which make no sense! It seems that WG only has an interest in power creeping the game by buffing everything. They don't understand how to make compromises and nerfs. Here are my opinions on the changes in 9.20 and why the WG balance department is garbage. 

 

9.20 Changes list

 

9.20: Vehicles which are getting over-buffed... 

 

9.20: Changes which make NO SENSE, no one asked for this...

 

Tanks which really need buffs.

 

Tanks which really need nerfs. 

 

Under "Tanks that Really Need Buffs", I agree with all of it.  And would add: Give the ELC bis back it's engine....

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The Foch B and IS7 really are not getting too much.  The IS7 needed it, and the Foch I tried on the test server is pretty balanced.  Yes it has a great gun, but in order to sit there long enough to use it, you are going to get punished by your [edited]armor and crap camo rating.....

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The ISU-152 got it's gun nerfed because of the tactical nuke it fired, not the pen.  The Udes, S1, and WZ all have great pen, but low alpha.....   Not both.

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Patriot doesn't have to be equal or lesser than the T32....   There's no rule that states that.  It's just a better tank.

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Skorpion G is a fantastic TD.  It's not cancer.  It goes fast (in a straight line).  Traverse is beyond horrible.  And it has a turret.  Hooray!  It also traverses at the speed of a crippled T95.  Not to mention it's TALL, has zero armor, and a totally crap camo rating......   20 kph reverse speed is the only reason why it is even playable.

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 Chrysler K is a novelty and a waste of money.  It performs like trash, the gun has low pen, low alpha, and it's really not hard to pen.  All the OP talk about this tank is pure hype and propaganda....   It's a waste of a garage slot.

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VK 100.01 P: If you can't pen this tank, you need to go look at the live model on Tanks GG.....   It's the same logic as the Maus, but it has a humongous tumor of a cupola on top.  It can be penned from any angle.  It's also slow, so it's easily flanked and butt-raped...... 

 

Last, I'm curious.  Why do you have 92,000 battles in your signature but only 14,500 in the forum ID?  If you're going to post crap like you're an authority, at least make all your crap match.....  Nothing makes you less than credible like conflicting data....

 



WIZD #15 Posted Aug 24 2017 - 17:02

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Skorpion G is a prem tank I thought they didn't touch those things. Side note: It's always bottom tier tank so does it matter if it's fast when it gets killed in 2 shots?

Edited by WIZD, Aug 24 2017 - 17:05.


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View PostB00BLEMAX, on Aug 10 2017 - 00:24, said:

9.20 if full of changes which make no sense! It seems that WG only has an interest in power creeping the game by buffing everything. They don't understand how to make compromises and nerfs. Here are my opinions on the changes in 9.20 and why the WG balance department is garbage. 

 

9.20 Changes list

 

9.20: Vehicles which are getting over-buffed... 

 

9.20: Changes which make NO SENSE, no one asked for this...

 

Tanks which really need buffs.

 

Tanks which really need nerfs. 

 

 

Over-Buffs- The IS-7 as is pathetic, one of the worst Tier 10 guns, and the armor isn't even that good and fairly easy to get thru compared to the all the other brawler tanks which have overall better armor and pen. The rest I agree with.

 

Nerfs- Well you could add the entire 9/10 heavy German tanks to that list and all your lights and mediums with higher dpm and pen then heavies designed to brawl. Well and give every Autoloader a massive nerf since they should take nearly twice as long as every single manual loader to fire 1 shot. Not rapid fire anything in its path to death in the time it takes other tanks to fire 1 round.


Edited by Tahllol, Aug 25 2017 - 22:05.


HeroEnVec #17 Posted Aug 25 2017 - 15:01

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Most of the time when I see these posts its total BS, but I honestly agree with you for the most part.

 

IS7-   it needed buffs bad, and it really needs a better premium round.  I am OK with this

 

T54 buff (LOL).  Yes, the T54 needed a buff... about as much as the maus needs 500 more HP.  T54 was already OP.

Obj 140:  Everyone that has an T62A should get a refund, as the 140 is now dramatically superior.  What idiot came up with that idea?






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