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_Jdawgg #21 Posted Aug 14 2017 - 21:20

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View PostHoffersintx518, on Aug 13 2017 - 07:27, said:

Geez, let's bring some cheese with the whine!

 

In addition to what T1_Diabetic noted (he attended the WGL captain's summit this summer where changes to the WoT eSports format were discussed; he MIGHT have some insights from that), consider that Dance210 who ran all the other leagues moved on to a new role and the new Community Organizer is still coming up to speed.  The new CO has many tasks--like reworking and restarting tournaments which arguably offers more value than league play to the NA player base as a whole.  I understand folks may be frustrated with no lower leagues this fall but even worse in my opinion would be to run them when less than fully prepared to do it with excellence.

 

Am I apologizing for WG?  Nope.  But I do think they are trying to improve things and their approach to the 2017/18 season makes sense provided the upcoming changes do transform the WoT eSports scene.  My fingers are crossed.  GL to those who do participate in the qualifiers--having a full complement of strong teams in the League benefits everyone.

 

So, what is it that WG does SO much of in order to actually run Silver League? Do they set up training rooms for each team? No, we run them ourselves. Is there an admin that sits in our training rooms? Nope. Do they stream us on a weekly basis and need people on the observer client? Nope, last season I got the sense it was basically just Rockstar and some of the other GL players who were part of streaming Silver League matches or some of the players from the community. Did they give us league accounts? Not anymore (thank you WG Russia).

 

So tell me, why exactly does them changing their eSport format in 2018 mean they cannot run a Silver League season? 



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The prize for winning Silver has always been to get into Gold. If they are reworking how that works for 2018, why would they do a season and promise a team Gold just to change things up on them? Silver is a feeder league, it makes no sense to keep feeding while simultaneously changing how you feed.

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Well, allow me to use a different game as an example. League of Legends and their LCS are changing their structure for their next splits, moving into franchising for their leagues. This being the final season they run things the exact same way, having teams compete in a challenger series for a shot at making the LCS, they still held their challenger series and they still held their promotion tournament for those teams to make it into the LCS. Which still meant a lot to those teams who had to fight to get back into the LCS, because the system was changing.

 

Now look at our league, Silver has always been a feeder league for Gold and there was always 1 team auto-relegated from GL because they finished at the very bottom. That meant that one team actually had to fight next time around just to get back IN to the GL. Now, with no SL to actually feed a team into GL for that one auto-relegated team, there really no bad reason to finish in last place in GL this season because no teams will be relegated, all because someone at WG was like "We are changing our eSport format, so screw it, we are too lazy to actually do a SL this season."



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View Post_Jdawgg, on Aug 14 2017 - 12:57, said:

Now, with no SL to actually feed a team into GL for that one auto-relegated team, there really no bad reason to finish in last place in GL this season because no teams will be relegated

 

You pretty much get nothing if you finish last. Also just because there is no silver league this season doesn't mean that the last place team doesn't get relegated. (the 7th place team has to fight the winner of the qualifier so I would assume they would do the same for the 8th next season, or something else)



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For reporting, is it replays and screenshots for each match? Or do we need to provide logs for each set of battles/battle? 

mpank #26 Posted Aug 22 2017 - 01:13

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I agree with _Jdawgg, WG should allow third parties to host tournament. We are trying to run something at gosu, but it is very hard without being able to create special battles. 

 

PS: WG Gold Qualifier is featured here: http://gosutactics.com/tournaments798-wglna-fall-season-2017-gold-league-qualifier/



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Questions:

1) the way this is worded it sounds like we need to save pythons for each match. This is never how league has been conducted and sounds really weird. Can anyone confirm that we only need 1 python saved at the very end of the series. 

 

2)Who the hell set up this tourny. 4 hours of games in one night. REALLY.... I 



_Jdawgg #28 Posted Aug 22 2017 - 02:10

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My question, is who messed up again? The rules page says each team will have 1 attack and 1 defense against each team, we just went to 3 battles with 4HIM, which according to the rules should not of been possible.

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View Post_Jdawgg, on Aug 21 2017 - 20:10, said:

My question, is who messed up again? The rules page says each team will have 1 attack and 1 defense against each team, we just went to 3 battles with 4HIM, which according to the rules should not of been possible.

 

its set up as best of three for our group as well 

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View Post_Jdawgg, on Aug 21 2017 - 17:10, said:

My question, is who messed up again? The rules page says each team will have 1 attack and 1 defense against each team, we just went to 3 battles with 4HIM, which according to the rules should not of been possible.

 

Some groups seem to get draws and some dont get draws for some reason

Edited by TankDestroyer590, Aug 22 2017 - 15:18.


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@Yoott/@Wargaming Most of the teams in the GL quals just got a tech win or loss for Group Stage 2 Battle 1 because it's broken right now. I've messaged multiple team captains and looked at the different groups, and basically everyone's first match was done in less than 8 minutes because it was 2 techs in a row. (Yes, we're fielding full/valid teams.) Being the first to post this here and I'm hoping other captains will respond confirming this so I'm not the only one.

 



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Well, our first 2 opponents basically didn't show up for matches yesterday, hence why we had techs vs them today.



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@Sheller3, Clarity had four techs, however both teams seem to have not shown for any games via Gosutactics. I don't think we could confirm such, unless the captain of TARTA MONGOLS could confirm

 



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Our team was here and we got technical defeats

WGLNA Fall Season 2017 Gold League Qualifier: Group Play Day 2. Group 5 - Round 1 (battle 1)
5D / Driving Blind vs. Hunter Tanks BR
Technical Defeat
Partial Result: 0:1
 
WGLNA Fall Season 2017 Gold League Qualifier: Group Play Day 2. Group 5 - Round 1 (battle 2)
5D / Driving Blind vs. Hunter Tanks BR
Technical Defeat
Result: Defeat (0:2)

Edited by Cylon_Dave, Aug 23 2017 - 20:43.


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This is what I believe the top 8 teams look like from 1st to 8th, this includes fixes for teams that "lost" matches in 3 that should have been draws on the first day of the round robin:

 

Tied for 1st place: Big Damage and Got The Runs
Tied for 3rd place: Clarity and Dragoes de Aco
5th place: Playpen Allstars
6th place: Sons of Valhalla
7th place: Brazilian Corruption

8th Place: Ecksdee

This doesnt take into account the fact that some teams reported having tech losses for the first match on the second day even though they were there and ready to go. I know this affected at least a few teams first match or two. So this may end up changing a bit.


Edited by Seventh_Hell, Aug 23 2017 - 21:50.


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View PostSeventh_Hell, on Aug 23 2017 - 12:43, said:

Tied for 1st place: Big Damage and Got The Runs

Tied for 3rd place: Clarity, Sons of Valhalla, and Dragoes de Aco
6th place: Playpen Allstars
7th place: Ecksdee
8th place: Brazilian Corruption

 

 

FTFY

 

Edited: actual ones after re-reading


Edited by TankDestroyer590, Aug 23 2017 - 22:19.


Seventh_Hell #37 Posted Aug 23 2017 - 21:52

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View PostTankDestroyer590, on Aug 23 2017 - 15:51, said:

 

FTFY

 

But you broke it...theres 8 teams listed but you have the last one in 9th >.<

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View PostSeventh_Hell, on Aug 23 2017 - 12:52, said:

 

But you broke it...theres 8 teams listed but you have the last one in 9th >.<

 

You listed 9 teams in 8 spots, the tie for 3rd takes up places 3, 4, and 5

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View PostTankDestroyer590, on Aug 23 2017 - 12:59, said:

 

You listed 9 teams in 8 spots, the tie for 3rd takes up places 3, 4, and 5

 

I see what went wrong. you forgot about Sons of Valhalla in 3rd

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View PostTankDestroyer590, on Aug 23 2017 - 15:59, said:

 

You listed 9 teams in 8 spots, the tie for 3rd takes up places 3, 4, and 5

 

Clarity and Dragoes are the only two tied for third tho.....






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