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sahmlockhart #1 Posted Aug 11 2017 - 16:20

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Since WGNA doesn't regularly post contents and/or updates that the RU servers does...

 

 

Caernarvon:

Armor increased - New Modified Centurion turret replacing AXC turret as elite turret

Top speed unchanged at: 34.3/12 km/hr
Hull traverse unchanged at: 24 °/s
Turret traverse decreased from: 36 °/s to 30 °/s

 

New Gun: OQF 32-pdr Gun Mk. II

Penetration: 220/252/47 mm

Damage: 280/280/370

Shell type: AP/APCR/HE
Reload Time: 6 s
Accuracy: 0.34
Aim time: 2.3 s

 

Conqueror:

Armor increased - Spaced armor plates are now attached to the turret, similar to the Super Conqueror

Top speed unchanged at: 34.3/-12 km/hr
Hull traverse unchanged at: 24 °/s
Turret traverse decreased from: 34 °/s to 32 °/s

 

120 mm Gun L1A1

Penetration: 259/326/120 mm

Damage: 400/400/515
Shell type: AP/APCR/HESH
Reload time increased from: 10.51 to 11.3 s

Accuracy: 0.33
Aim time: 1.9 seconds

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

New Vehicle on SuperTest server: Super Conqueror (Possible replacement for FV215b)

 

Basically a Conqueror with appliqué  armor on the turret and upper, frontal plate as well as better gun performance...

 

 



PANICWAVE #2 Posted Aug 11 2017 - 16:22

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amen to that

CynicalDutchie #3 Posted Aug 11 2017 - 16:22

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Super conqueror should just be a conqueror upgrade and the chieftain should be the new T10

pickpocket293 #4 Posted Aug 11 2017 - 16:23

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Block Quote

 appliqué  armor

 

What is this?



BaconMeLoveIt #5 Posted Aug 11 2017 - 16:24

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So mostly got hit by a nerf bat?

riversteel #6 Posted Aug 11 2017 - 16:25

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That ls a real Moster...

sahmlockhart #7 Posted Aug 11 2017 - 16:26

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View Postpickpocket293, on Aug 11 2017 - 10:23, said:

 

What is this?

 

Fancy word for additional armor...

mp31b30q9 #8 Posted Aug 11 2017 - 16:28

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To balance the game Komrades all tanks will have 700mm of armor blessed by Stalin himself, enjoy fellow vodka drinking battle of Kursk glorious Komrades.

Duqe #9 Posted Aug 11 2017 - 16:32

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Holy [edited], wait.

 

2800 DPM on the Caernarvon?



indoctrinated #10 Posted Aug 11 2017 - 16:33

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In line to what I was expecting. Interesting, but too bad the Black Prince didn't get touched.

View Postpickpocket293, on Aug 11 2017 - 16:23, said:

 

What is this?

 

Extra armor plate welded to the hull. Centurion 7/1 has a 44mm applique plate attached to the 76mm upper glacis for a 120mm thick upper glacis.

FrozenKemp #11 Posted Aug 11 2017 - 16:44

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Yes please!  

I_Like_Tuwtles #12 Posted Aug 11 2017 - 16:46

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So they're just gonna make up another tank instead of putting in the Chieftain, a tank that actually existed?

Kamahl1234 #13 Posted Aug 11 2017 - 17:07

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View PostI_Like_Tuwtles, on Aug 11 2017 - 15:46, said:

So they're just gonna make up another tank instead of putting in the Chieftain, a tank that actually existed?

 

IIRC the Super Conq was built, as it's basically just a Conq with armor plates. 

 

The Chieftain has been known for a while now to be intended for its own line. 



Ken_McGuire #14 Posted Aug 11 2017 - 17:21

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Not at all sure what I think of the Conqueror changes...

Turret buff. Really? It already has a quite strong turret.

Upper Plate buff. OK, this will make the tank a bit more flexible.

DPM nerf. I suppose if you give something, you have to take it away. But having a decent DPM (and gun handling) was the Conq's thing.



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So the British will no longer be the laughing stock between heavy tanks?, nice.

Striker_70 #16 Posted Aug 11 2017 - 17:34

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Thanks for posting this Sam.  I'll probably be taking advantage of the current on-track's 30% discount for the Caenarvon now.

DiReWoLF_27 #17 Posted Aug 11 2017 - 17:40

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Super Conqueror?  Really? Seems somehow they have decided that the FV215b is OP so they are taking a nail covered nerf bat to it to create the S.Conqueror.  Is this a joke?  The Russian tier 10 MTs would crush the SC......well guess that maybe the point.

 

Take the FV215b, remove 150hp, reduce side armor on hull by 25mm, cut rear armor on hull in half to 38mm, add 25mm of armor to front of turret, reduce side armor on turret by 63mm, reduce rear armor on turret by 31mm, reduce turret traverse by 2 deg/s, reduce hull traverse by 12 deg/s, reduce view range by 10m, speed remains the same, pen-alpha-dispersion remain unchanged, aim time increased by 0.3 sec, and reload time increased by 1 sec. 

Do all that and you have the Super Conqueror as it is currently shown.


Edited by DiReWoLF_27, Aug 11 2017 - 17:57.


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The Caenarvon might be good if these changes happen, the fact is that it is worse heavy than the Cent I currently. 

 

I don't know if the Super Con will be better or worse than the FV215b.


Edited by BeastsOfBattle, Aug 11 2017 - 17:42.


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View PostDiReWoLF_27, on Aug 11 2017 - 17:40, said:

Super Conqueror?  Really? Seems somehow they have decided that the FV215b is OP so they are taking a nail covered nerf bat to it to create the S.Conqueror.  Is this a joke?  The Russian tier 10 MTs would crush the SC......well guess that maybe the point.

 

Take the FV215b, remove 150hp, reduce side armor on hull by 25mm, cut rear armor on hull in half to 38mm, add 25mm of armor to front of turret, reduce side armor on turret by 63mm, reduce rear armor on turret by 31mm, reduce turret traverse by 2 deg/s, reduce hull traverse by 12 deg/s, reduce view range by 10m, speed remains the same, pen-alpha-dispersion remain unchanged, aim time increased by 0.3 sec, and reload time increased by 1 sec. 

Do all that and you have the Super Conqueror as it is currently shown.

FV215b has 50 side armor on the lower half of the hull. Also, you conveniently forget the FV215b has that embarassing turret ring weakspot. Side armor on almost all tanks is weak anyways, what is the big deal?



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View PostDiReWoLF_27, on Aug 11 2017 - 17:40, said:

Super Conqueror?  Really? Seems somehow they have decided that the FV215b is OP so they are taking a nail covered nerf bat to it to create the S.Conqueror.  Is this a joke?  The Russian tier 10 MTs would crush the SC......well guess that maybe the point.

 

Take the FV215b, remove 150hp, reduce side armor on hull by 25mm, cut rear armor on hull in half to 38mm, add 25mm of armor to front of turret, reduce side armor on turret by 63mm, reduce rear armor on turret by 31mm, reduce turret traverse by 2 deg/s, reduce hull traverse by 12 deg/s, reduce view range by 10m, speed remains the same, pen-alpha-dispersion remain unchanged, aim time increased by 0.3 sec, and reload time increased by 1 sec. 

Do all that and you have the Super Conqueror as it is currently shown.

 

It is being replaced because it is not a historical hull and turret combination as well being one of the hardest tanks to play at tier 10, the hull is just too weak and the skill reqs for it to consistently do well are insanely high which is why it is rarely seen these days.





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