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9.20.1 SuperTest - British HT Changes & Super Conqueror

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DiReWoLF_27 #21 Posted Aug 11 2017 - 18:12

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View Postindoctrinated, on Aug 11 2017 - 10:00, said:

FV215b has 50 side armor on the lower half of the hull. Also, you conveniently forget the FV215b has that embarassing turret ring weakspot. Side armor on almost all tanks is weak anyways, what is the big deal?

 

Just that if you are going to slash the armor and hp, which should be the strong points of HTs then at least increase its speed.  But they left the speed alone and reduced hull traverse quite a bit.  Depending on what they do with the terrain resists this thing has the chance to be a slow, thin skinned HT.  Or an XP pinata for MTs.

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They should just make the add-on armor Conq. an alternate tier X 

Radonis #23 Posted Aug 11 2017 - 21:00

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Why oh why dont they just give PC the Cheiftan console has it already.

_Gungrave_ #24 Posted Aug 11 2017 - 21:04

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What the hell....that Conquerer is better than the Super Conquerer idea because the SConq didn't have upper plate spaced armor.

 

That thing has got to be tier 10 material with that spaced armor I mean below is the original SConq concept back when they wanted to replace the FV215b and the SConq had no spaced armor on the upper plate.

 

Spoiler

 

View PostRadonis, on Aug 11 2017 - 21:00, said:

Why oh why dont they just give PC the Cheiftan console has it already.

 

 

Console also doesn't have nearly as many tank lines as we do for the console devs to balance a tank around. Cheiftain has always been a tricky tank to balance as they want to make it different from the Cent AX but still viable as a heavy.


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Radonis #25 Posted Aug 11 2017 - 21:10

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Console has a WTE100 still so balance isnt that much a concern on console and i am pretty sure WG is trying to figure a way to make a ton of cash when introducing the Chieftan.

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View PostRadonis, on Aug 11 2017 - 21:10, said:

Console has a WTE100 still so balance isnt that much a concern on console and i am pretty sure WG is trying to figure a way to make a ton of cash when introducing the Chieftan.

 

Well the console devs time and time again have shown they give even less of a ████ than the PC devs do which I have to say is quite the achievement given the history of the PC version and its devs.

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indoctrinated #27 Posted Aug 12 2017 - 02:19

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View PostDiReWoLF_27, on Aug 11 2017 - 18:12, said:

 

Just that if you are going to slash the armor and hp, which should be the strong points of HTs then at least increase its speed.  But they left the speed alone and reduced hull traverse quite a bit.  Depending on what they do with the terrain resists this thing has the chance to be a slow, thin skinned HT.  Or an XP pinata for MTs.

Thin skinned are you crazy? How the hell is this weak? 


 

View Post_Gungrave_, on Aug 11 2017 - 21:04, said:

What the hell....that Conquerer is better than the Super Conquerer idea because the SConq didn't have upper plate spaced armor.

 

That thing has got to be tier 10 material with that spaced armor I mean below is the original SConq concept back when they wanted to replace the FV215b and the SConq had no spaced armor on the upper plate.

 

Spoiler
 

 

Console also doesn't have nearly as many tank lines as we do for the console devs to balance a tank around. Cheiftain has always been a tricky tank to balance as they want to make it different from the Cent AX but still viable as a heavy.

People think the Chieftain has awesome armor when the reality is much worse. I think WG just wants to avoid an uproar over a frankly mediocre tank IRL.



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View Postindoctrinated, on Aug 12 2017 - 02:19, said:

People think the Chieftain has awesome armor when the reality is much worse. I think WG just wants to avoid an uproar over a frankly mediocre tank IRL.

 

Well I'm familair with the whole cheiftain situation its just that them buffing the super conquerer was a tad unexpected. With this news its basically a certainty that the FV215b will become a reward tank.

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View Post_Gungrave_, on Aug 12 2017 - 03:27, said:

 

Well I'm familair with the whole cheiftain situation its just that them buffing the super conquerer was a tad unexpected. With this news its basically a certainty that the FV215b will become a reward tank.

 

Its already been confirm by a staff member here, as for the cheiftain I really do hope that we get a second HT line so we can get our hands on things like the turreted AT2 ect.

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Need to be rid of the Type B 20, it's a horrible grind for any heavy and TD. 45,000 xp With super limited bennies. Makes both trees just bad bad bad.

indoctrinated #31 Posted Aug 12 2017 - 05:02

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View Post_Gungrave_, on Aug 12 2017 - 03:27, said:

 

Well I'm familair with the whole cheiftain situation its just that them buffing the super conquerer was a tad unexpected. With this news its basically a certainty that the FV215b will become a reward tank.

WG simply released a render of a Conqueror with the spaced armor sheets on the turret but not the full spaced armor package. Definitely not something expected, I thought the 215B was just going to be eliminated from the game like the T-50-2 or something.



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Edited by Volier_Zcit, Aug 15 2017 - 00:57.


_Gungrave_ #33 Posted Aug 12 2017 - 07:38

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View Postkalten00, on Aug 12 2017 - 05:12, said:

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Well just like the Foch I already have the FV215b unlocked so hurray for wasting so much time working on Senior Technical Engineer lol.

 

Makes you wonder what other possible tier 10s will become reward tanks I mean there aren't that many tanks that would become contenders for it. Most likely they will only do it for tanks they view as being too much of a pain to balance in the current meta.


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View PostKerosedge, on Aug 12 2017 - 04:47, said:

Need to be rid of the Type B 20, it's a horrible grind for any heavy and TD. 45,000 xp With super limited bennies. Makes both trees just bad bad bad.

 

or make the upgrade worth the grind, i mean it wont kill them to make the type B give a noticeable ROF boost from.

 

fun fack is that caernarvon already has one of the lowest DPM of tier 8 when we account of first shot DPM

 

110:2240

is-3:2150

t32:2130

caernarvon:2000

 

raise the type B ROF across the board by 20% and the gun will have a reason to exist 

 

 



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View Postpepe_trueno, on Aug 13 2017 - 16:49, said:

 

or make the upgrade worth the grind, i mean it wont kill them to make the type B give a noticeable ROF boost from.

 

fun fack is that caernarvon already has one of the lowest DPM of tier 8 when we account of first shot DPM

 

110:2240

is-3:2150

t32:2130

caernarvon:2000

 

raise the type B ROF across the board by 20% and the gun will have a reason to exist 

 

 

Strange thing is the 20-pdrs are being removed from the Caern even tho it was a historical armament.



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I liked the Caernarvon quite a lot, it is probably gonna be much better with the 32 pdr. The Conqueror buffs are decent i would say, i would have kept the dpm instead of the armor but whatever.

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Question, 

      I have Caernarvon but don't have the 20pdr B researched yet, should I research it before the change ?  Is the new gun replacing the B Barrel or should I save for the Conqueror ?



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View PostRakshir, on Oct 07 2017 - 21:23, said:

Question, 

      I have Caernarvon but don't have the 20pdr B researched yet, should I research it before the change ?  Is the new gun replacing the B Barrel or should I save for the Conqueror ?

 

​If you continue to play it get it , if not . The patch isn't scheduled till about the 17th and 18th and you can decide then and see what they end up doing in the final release . I still have mine and used to enjoy the tank even though the damage was lacking . 





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