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buzz6 #41 Posted Aug 18 2017 - 22:24

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View PostCptObvi0us, on Aug 18 2017 - 18:14, said:

Lol. Jesus people. First off, game is not dead. If you're not happy, don't play. If you are, play. I live in AZ and my ping went up to 60 at game start and 35-40 during game. Don't even notice it. MM last night was the best it has been in a long time with only 1 of 35 games completely lopsided. It's never going to be perfect for everyone but I enjoy it and have no problem playing or purchasing prem time/tanks. 

 

Also after reading a lot of responses here....make sure your network settings and equipment are up to date, you have a decent ISP with a good connection and updated PC & drivers. Some of these ping times you are talking about are like 1998 Unreal dial-up status...

 

Just my 2c

 

Since the "don't play" method is the only other choice right now, if enough of us exercise it, your choice may become Obvious, play on the Euro servers or do not play. Sad, but true. The market will only bear so much abuse.

rufus374 #42 Posted Aug 18 2017 - 22:24

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View Postbuzz6, on Aug 18 2017 - 16:19, said:

Since I am allowed an opinion, I must be a complainer. But in the USA we tend to be somewhat spoiled and have real choices, not just a take it or leave it option. So far, I am taking it, but it is not as much fun as it once was. Ping now runs around 100 -120, with 15 - 18 fps, and I cannot blame Spectrum for the change from 40 - 60, with 25 - 35 fps. I enjoy the game, but the change affects my already meager skills -and not in a good way.

 

Sorry to hear you're adversely affected by the merge.  I hope that you've run the PingPlotter trace and completed the survey that WG asked for so that hopefully they can improve your experience.  Things will only get better if all players, whether they have experienced increased ping/latency or not, provide WG constructive, actionable feedback.

black_colt #43 Posted Aug 18 2017 - 22:40

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View Posttime2reload, on Aug 18 2017 - 11:19, said:

I said it in another thread and will repeat it here:

 

When I Run speedtest.net I get a 20-40ms ping.  Fire up WOT since the merger and I get 400+ most of the time with short periods where it might get down below 100 ms and frequent periods where it goes over 600 ms.  The game is unplayable for me.  I even rebooted my router and my computer.  My system drivers are up to date.  If it helps any I am playing in the greater Huntsville, AL area.  I am on AT&T's network.  I am hardwired (not Wi-Fi) into the router.  My pings on the eastern server before the merger were usually in the 30-50ms range on the western server 90-130ms.  i would not mind a 10-20ms increase as that would be what I had back at my old address.  But I have over an order of magnitude worst ping.  I will give it a few more days to work itself out but if it stays that high I will probably stop playing not because I want to but a half second delay makes the game horribly un-enjoyable to play.  I will give it some time.

 

Have you filled out the Server Merge Survey as requested by Wargaming for those experiencing issues?

 


Edited by black_colt, Aug 18 2017 - 22:43.


Michael_Cochrane_2017 #44 Posted Aug 19 2017 - 02:24

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View Postwarrends, on Aug 17 2017 - 19:04, said:

 

Never blame "the kids". My son began playing when he was 7. Seriously. He's not playing at the moment but in those ensuing 5 years, from ages 7-11 or so, he racked up a 53.5% win rate (~5k battles, so a very good data sample). That's in the upper 80% of the entire playerbase. It's not "the kids". It's:

1) Players who come just for fun and honestly don't care what happens. And, like it or not, that's fair, even to those of us who are trying to win every battle.

2) Players who try but just suck. Again, that's fair. At least they are trying.

3) Trolls, which are by far the minority.

4) The 40% of battles which you will NOT win no matter what. Even the best of the best lose 30-40% of their battles, for any number of reasons. Those battles are just unwinnable.

 

As has been said for many, many years, the one single constant in every battle you are in is you. There is no other constant. Therefore if your win rate and other stats are bad, then it's you.

 

As for the new server, it's fine with me. My ping jumped to a gigantic ~40 ms. In Maryland. And in an area with good 'net speeds. If you're trying to play in BFEgypt or via 1MB/s motel WiFi, rethink your situation.

I had a theory about the quality of players....I was thinking, "why would all the "team" players almost always be on one side".....could it be, all the premium players get ranked together?

Sure enough...played about 30 rounds just now.....always on the crapteam....won maybe ONE or TWO rounds....14 kills to 2....then premium account kicks in...whoa, back up to 50% win ratio....in fact, I think I won a lot more than that......could it be? well, when ALL players have premium accounts, they're distributed equally, when not? hmmmm

So either it's that, or "suddenly" on friday night, ALL the players started playing in teams.....

I'm open to another explanation but as I have said before, what is different? only things are: quality of players, day or premium accounts.....



Michael_Cochrane_2017 #45 Posted Aug 19 2017 - 02:25

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View Postblack_colt, on Aug 18 2017 - 22:40, said:

 

Have you filled out the Server Merge Survey as requested by Wargaming for those experiencing issues?

 

 

went to, couldn't "fill" it out because I didn't install their ping recording software thingy......otherwise, couldn't submit it

Duqe #46 Posted Aug 19 2017 - 13:53

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The ping got more stable for me, but still reaches 300ms. frequently. And yes, it does impact game play more than it should.

 

I live in Belgium, I should be on the EU server. I started playing World of Tanks back when they didn't redirect you to another server's website, and .com was the obvious choice.



Thornir #47 Posted Aug 19 2017 - 14:57

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View PostSlapStixs, on Aug 17 2017 - 09:02, said:

"Please, please stop complaining and think before you say the server merge is "so bad"! "

  Are you for real?  I just lost a ping that was in the 20- 30's - to a ping that is 90 - 100's so yes i'm complaining- WoT just lost me and my $$$$$$$$$

 

really good human reaction time is like 200 ms. Your difference in ping is well within your margin of error for reacting. Your machine can measure the difference, but you can't. 

CptObvi0us #48 Posted Aug 19 2017 - 20:03

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View Postbuzz6, on Aug 18 2017 - 22:24, said:

 

Since the "don't play" method is the only other choice right now, if enough of us exercise it, your choice may become Obvious, play on the Euro servers or do not play. Sad, but true. The market will only bear so much abuse.

 

Literally stated nothing. If you're not enjoying the game, do not play it. Play some games in your Steam library...GG

Duqe #49 Posted Aug 19 2017 - 20:15

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View PostCptObvi0us, on Aug 19 2017 - 20:03, said:

 

Literally stated nothing. If you're not enjoying the game, do not play it. Play some games in your Steam library...GG

 

"If you're depressed, just kill yourself. Stop trying for better things."

CptObvi0us #50 Posted Aug 19 2017 - 21:04

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View PostDuqe, on Aug 19 2017 - 20:15, said:

 

"If you're depressed, just kill yourself. Stop trying for better things."

 

Typical WoT player. 

There's a survey to try and better things. http://www.surveygiz...l-Server-Survey

Crying helps nothing. 

Also your issue is not the merger. It's that you should be on EU.


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Duqe #51 Posted Aug 19 2017 - 22:14

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View PostCptObvi0us, on Aug 19 2017 - 21:04, said:

 

Typical WoT player. 

There's a survey to try and better things. http://www.surveygiz...l-Server-Survey

Crying helps nothing. 

Also your issue is not the merger. It's that you should be on EU.

 

Crying helps a lot actually. Most of the nerfs and buffs in the game have been accomplished by "crying".

NacMacFeegle #52 Posted Aug 20 2017 - 02:35

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The claim that higher pings don't affect gameplay is complete and utter nonsense. Trying to steer a scout at full speed at 100ms is a ludicrously irritating experience since the server merge. A fraction of a second can be the difference between life and death, or between a shot hitting and missing its mark. If the central server ping cannot be significantly reduced then East/West servers must be put reopened ASAP.

Mondochiwan #53 Posted Aug 20 2017 - 17:35

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I agree nacmacfeegle. Human reflexes are way faster than people think. 250ms can feel like a long time if you are focused and concentrating, ready to click and fire.

Addicted2Trance #54 Posted Aug 20 2017 - 18:36

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So, OP.. Honest question, in case you haven't been too often on the forum lately.

How many players benefited from the server merge compared to those adversely affected by it?

Start up a poll, and i'm pretty sure you'll be surprised why do "many people complain".

 

Not to mention, WG's voluntarily proposed the server transfer issue out of the blue? (is it possible they know/knew many people would be affected to the point they'd request transfer to EU server??)

 

 

 



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View PostAddicted2Trance, on Aug 20 2017 - 12:36, said:

So, OP.. Honest question, in case you haven't been too often on the forum lately.

How many players benefited from the server merge compared to those adversely affected by it?

Start up a poll, and i'm pretty sure you'll be surprised why do "many people complain".

 

Not to mention, WG's voluntarily proposed the server transfer issue out of the blue? (is it possible they know/knew many people would be affected to the point they'd request transfer to EU server??)

 

 

 

 

​Most players who saw no difference or an improvement with the merge will not come to the forum and make threads or comment on existing ones.  Not trying to marginalize those who have or are experiencing issues, but the forums are not really an objective place to determine the extent of negative impacts because of the merge.

Michael_Cochrane_2017 #56 Posted Aug 20 2017 - 18:47

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View PostNacMacFeegle, on Aug 19 2017 - 19:35, said:

The claim that higher pings don't affect gameplay is complete and utter nonsense. Trying to steer a scout at full speed at 100ms is a ludicrously irritating experience since the server merge. A fraction of a second can be the difference between life and death, or between a shot hitting and missing its mark. If the central server ping cannot be significantly reduced then East/West servers must be put reopened ASAP.

 

100% correct....I used to get 40 to 50 ms and just now in 3 rounds they were all over 300 ms.....I don't have to tell you what happened....they saw me and killed me before I even knew they were there and I was looking right at them ......and no, I wasn't limited by my "view range" my commander had 100% training and 73% on "extended view range" additional skill...3 times, 3 times the ping was over 300 ms....

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Gee I wished ping was only 10-30 worse. More like 100 or so worse, sometimes I hit 200. You are right, you have nothing to complain about. 

D3M1NG0 #58 Posted Aug 22 2017 - 06:36

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If you can't tell the difference between 23ms and 110ms, you aren't good enough at the game to critique others.

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View PostThornir, on Aug 19 2017 - 05:57, said:

 

really good human reaction time is like 200 ms. Your difference in ping is well within your margin of error for reacting. Your machine can measure the difference, but you can't. 

 

You are confusing reaction time with perception. You are obviously not good enough to tell the difference.

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View PostRedwave11, on Aug 17 2017 - 10:06, said:

 

I don't know how people have even above 500wn8 with more than 60ms

I'm running 1400wn8 since the merge, with near 300ms. Thanks for the compliment :B

Seriously though, the difference of 15ms on 50ms is nothing. The difference on 250ms, is A LOT. It all depends on what your baseline was, if you want to determine the real impact. There is also a lot more rubberbanding since the merge, but I'm confident WG will resolve this soon enough.

 

Happy tanking!






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